Another word on one of Charlie Kirk's views: RACE.

[2PhiloVoid]

And this other word I'm passing along here is actually what former Police Office Tatum shares about his perspective on Charlie Kirk's views on race.

I think this brief video is timely (it's about 13 minutes long), and as someone inclined toward social science and mutual understanding among everyone, I appreciate what Officer Tatum expresses about his own experiences and interpretations regarding what Charlie Kirk thought and for which a variety of different understandings float around.

Note too: This will be the only other Charlie Kirk related video I will be sharing. I'm praying for Peace, Order and Humanity for everyone on all sides of the political spectrum. God Bless America! Thank you, The Officer Tatum!

 

[Vambram]

I have zero doubts at all in my mind that Charlie Kirk is NOT a racist.

 

[Yttrium]

Okay.

I was under the impression that intolerance of LGBT was a big issue for Kirk, not racism. Have some people been accusing him of being racist?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Factcheck has some sources on what Kirk has (and hasn't) said. Relevant ones on the Civil Rights Act and "Jewish Money".

The Guardian with some others, many of which are relevant.

 

[Yttrium]

Factcheck has some sources on what Kirk has (and hasn't) said. Relevant ones on the Civil Rights Act and "Jewish Money".

The Guardian with some others, many of which are relevant.

I dunno... I can see how some of the comments could be taken as racist, but it all seems a little weak. I find some of his other comments to be much more offensive.

 

[Servus]

I have zero doubts at all in my mind that Charlie Kirk is NOT a racist.

Liberalism pretty much dictates that anyone who's a conservative republican Christian white male is a racist, a bigot, a xenophobe, prejudiced, a misogynist, a homophobe, an islamophobe, a supremacist etc etc.

 

[Freth]

Liberalism pretty much dictates that anyone who's a conservative republican Christian white male is a racist, a bigot, a xenophobe, prejudiced, a misogynist, a homophobe, an islamophobe, a supremacist etc etc.

The word I'm seeing being thrown around as of late is fascist.

 

[A2SG]

Liberalism pretty much dictates that anyone who's a conservative republican Christian white male is a racist, a bigot, a xenophobe, prejudiced, a misogynist, a homophobe, an islamophobe, a supremacist etc etc.

Speaking as a liberal, you're incorrect.

Perhaps you simply do not understand what "liberalism" actually is, or what it is liberals actually believe. You may want to ask a liberal about that, if you truly wish to know.

-- A2SG, I stand ready, as a representative liberal, to answer any questions you might have.....

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Okay.

I was under the impression that intolerance of LGBT was a big issue for Kirk, not racism. Have some people been accusing him of being racist?

Apparently, there has been some report of it being the case in some circles. But I'm still in the process of vetting things out since I wasn't very familiar with all that Charlie Kirk did, thought, or represented until last week.

 

[Larniavc]

I have zero doubts at all in my mind that Charlie Kirk is NOT a racist.

But he said racist things.

 

[Larniavc]

Liberalism pretty much dictates that anyone who's a conservative republican Christian white male is a racist, a bigot, a xenophobe, prejudiced, a misogynist, a homophobe, an islamophobe, a supremacist etc etc.

Don’t be silly. You can’t paint a specific demographic with one brush. Stop doing it.

 

[childeye 2]

Liberalism pretty much dictates that anyone who's a conservative republican Christian white male is a racist, a bigot, a xenophobe, prejudiced, a misogynist, a homophobe, an islamophobe, a supremacist etc etc.

lib·er·al·ism
[ˈlɪb(ə)rəlɪz(ə)m]
noun
liberalism (noun)

1. willingness to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; openness to new ideas:
   "one of the basic tenets of liberalism is tolerance"
   • the holding of political views that are socially progressive and promote social welfare:
     "the borough prides itself on being a great bastion of liberalism and diversity"
   • theology
     the belief that many traditional beliefs are dispensable, invalidated by modern thought, or liable to change.
2. a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise:
   "representative democracy operates under the principles of classical liberalism"

 

[Vambram]

But he said racist things.

No, he has not.

 

[NxNW]

No, he has not.

Compiled by the Guardian:​

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022

Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023

 

[Vambram]

Compiled by the Guardian:​

He was asking legitimate questions about affirmative action and DEI policies.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

He was asking legitimate questions about affirmative action and DEI policies.

There are ways to do that that don't involve making racist comments. Also, two of those have nothing to do with DEI.

 

[johansen]

There are ways to do that that don't involve making racist comments. Also, two of those have nothing to do with DEI.

It is not racist to mention the race of 80% of those receiving benefits by race.

Its also not barist to select lawyers who actually passed the bar exam. (Yes really, washington state).

These are real issues that must be dealt with.

If (race) is intrinsically more violent because they lack neanderthal dna from 120,000 years ago. These problems will get worse not better. In a sense, we are falling already to manage this problem.

 

[Vambram]

There are ways to do that that don't involve making racist comments. Also, two of those have nothing to do with DEI.

He did not make racist comments. Also, the enforcement and growth of affirmative action directly led to DEI policies.

 

[Pommer]

He was asking legitimate questions about affirmative action and DEI policies.

There’s a wiki that’s rational (they claim), that has a page on “Just Asking Questions”.

Kirk’s approach to race was to eliminate it from our national conversations.
Sounds great, don’t it?
[Some] whites are tired of having to consider other people, and will defend their rights to go back to a time when they didn’t have to think about ”race” so much!

 

[MrMoe]

But he said racist things.

Define racism.