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Another thing I don't understand about the creationist position...

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Bradskii

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Nope. It’s so very obvious that you don’t understand what I’m saying, regardless of how simple I make it.
You said there is nothing older than 6,000 years. All of geography is therefore wrong. Measurements, papers, theories, books, what is taught...they are all wrong. There isn't a branch of geography left standing.

Physics next? Which parts can we trust and which are those we can't? More importantly, how do we tell?
 
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You said there is nothing older than 6,000 years. All of geography is therefore wrong. Measurements, papers, theories, books, what is taught...they are all wrong. There isn't a branch of geography left standing.

Physics next? Which parts can we trust and which are those we can't? More importantly, how do we tell?
Once again, you aren’t understanding what I’m saying. As not to insult you, or to assign impure motives towards you, I’ll assume the problem is on my end. I’m just unable to convey my point in a way that helps you to understand.
 
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What was your point?
I was confirming that you said that Astronomy as a science didn't work. I find I have to do that as you keep changing what you say. But there it is in that post.

Now that we've taken care of astronomy and geology, how do we know which parts of physics we can still use?
 
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Once again, you aren’t understanding what I’m saying.

I do. You wrote it down. It wasn't hard to understand. Just 2 words. I said that according to you the science of astronomy is itself wrong.' . And you said 'of course'. Clear as crystal. Perfectly understandable. No misunderstanding.

Now how do we know which parts of physics we can keep?
 
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Now how do we know which parts of physics we can keep?

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.
 
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1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.
It seems you responded to a post I made. I say 'seems' because your posts don't appear to me. It prevents me having to waste my time. Perhaps you might consider not wasting yours.
 
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It seems you responded to a post I made. I say 'seems' because your posts don't appear to me. It prevents me having to waste my time. Perhaps you might consider not wasting yours.

If you can "waste your time" asking questions, I can "waste my time" answering them.
 
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Saying that most astronomers are wrong because they buy into a faulty premise is not the same thing as saying that astronomy, as a science, is wrong. I’m really hoping that clears it up. It’s easy enough for my 10 year-old to understand.
Who do you think is writing all astronomy books and astronomy papers? Astronomers. So yes, saying that all astronomers are wrong is saying that all or close to all astronomy is wrong.
We still don’t know what these famous premises are., nor why they are wrong. Nor do we know how these flawed premises affect some parts of astronomy and not others – since you claim that not all astronomy is wrong.

By the way, you still haven’t explained how the Andromeda Galaxy can be at a distance of 2.5 million light years away and the light we see travelled in a shorter period of time than 6.000 years . You have said that “Christian scientists” had tackled the issue but not said how the explained that. I would like to know what they found.
 
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Who do you think is writing all astronomy books and astronomy papers? Astronomers. So yes, saying that all astronomers are wrong is saying that all or close to all astronomy is wrong.
Are all astronomers correct in everything they write about? Has there ever been a correction?
 
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Are all astronomers correct in everything they write about? Has there ever been a correction?
About such an easy and fundamental issue as the distance of the Andromeda Galaxy and the time it takes for light to travel the distance to Earth, the answer is : yes.
 
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About such an easy and fundamental issue as the distance of the Andromeda Galaxy and the time it takes for light to travel the distance to Earth, the answer is : yes.
Good start. Are there some astronomers that disagree with other astronomers on interpreting current data?
 
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So there’s been corrections, but everyone agrees? How does that work?
Because both the distance that separates us from the Andromeda Galaxy and the speed of light are fundamental and easy things to measure. And very fundamental to physics. If these were to be wrong, the whole of modern physics would fall. You pretended that "christian scientists" have formulated some different conclusion. Care to tell us what that conclusion was?
 
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Because both the distance that separates us from the Andromeda Galaxy and the speed of light are fundamental and easy things to measure. And very fundamental to physics. If these were to be wrong, the whole of modern physics would fall. You pretended that "christian scientists" have formulated some different conclusion. Care to tell us what that conclusion was?
I see you cleverly avoided my original question. So I’ll ask again. Do astronomers ever disagree on anything?
 
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Still dodging. I’m moving on now.
It's not a dodge. It's a trite question being asked to avoid explaining yourself. It's akin to saying that if people disagree on the best route from N.Y. to L.A. it implies that someone who says that the distance between them is a few feet should have his view likewise considered.

Farcical...
 
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Not about fundamental questions.
Still dodging. I’m moving
It's not a dodge. It's a trite question being asked to avoid explaining yourself. It's akin to saying that if people disagree on the best route from N.Y. to L.A. it implies that someone who says that the distance between them is a few feet should have his view likewise considered.

Farcical...
I actually asked the question that he avoided answering. So I don’t know what you are rambling on about.
 
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