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If you met a man named Jesus and He claimed to be God, what would He have to do to demonstrate to you that He was indeed God?Demonstrate that what you're claiming is the truth.
Jeremiah 333Phone number?
But if you want the number of Who you're gonna call -- it's Jeremiah 333.
Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.
His phone number is Jeremiah 333.
He would have to know, understand and live the Bible better then any man who has ever lived.If you met a man named Jesus and He claimed to be God, what would He have to do to demonstrate to you that He was indeed God?
Easy as pie. To be evidenced and require evidence against something one must have something first. So called science is not evidenced and that is evidenced by your failure to evidence it here. Therefore no evidence is needed to make the claims of so called science false, they will and must remain false by their inability to punch through to the real world in any meaningful way whatsoever.Evidence please.
Tree rings have meaning only when trees exist in this state and take a long time to grow. If the trees could grow in weeks, as seemingly indicated in the record of sacred antiquity, then the meaning is ripped from the very heart of so called science models on trees of the past. As for layers, again, no limits on slow present state style deposition can be proven to exist, which renders the uniformitarian insinuations of varves utterly useless. In addition, depending of the site of the deposits, other factors that require a present state also start to form part of the mix.Floods would definitely interrupt lake varves. Here is a picture of lake varves interrupted above and below by flooding:
Notice how the flood deposits (above and below the laminated layers) are coarse grained and the lake varves are fine grained with alternating colors. We should see this same thing in lake varves across the world at the same exact time. We don't. Therefore, no global flood. It is that simple. This is backed up by correlated annual records in tree ring dendrochronologies and annual ice layer deposition in both the Antarctic and Greenland.
What state there is is not relative to what was.That is the only state there is.
Easy. The same mistake is superimposed across the so called science slate, resulting in imaginary old ages that can be welded by cunning slate of hand to look as if they would make some sort of forced match in an imaginary same state past.Evidence please. Also explain why the tree ring dendrochronologies match the lake varves and annual ice layers.
Imaginary years don't count.That is 65 million years old.
What evidence of ANY transmission in the days of Noah do you have? If you have none, then you may not ask for any, obviously. If you do, cough it up.What different transmission? Evidence please.
Obviously you think that has some meaning. Explain why and how taking something in this present state, and 'rebuilding' it even relates?Did you forget that the rebuilt the ERV's and it produces retroviruses that are indistinguishable from modern retroviruses?
No. It is not by any stretch. What in the OP do you claim is a foundation?The foundation is in the OP.
If you met a man named Jesus and He claimed to be God, what would He have to do to demonstrate to you that He was indeed God?
Easy as pie. To be evidenced and require evidence against something one must have something first.
Tree rings have meaning only when trees exist in this state and take a long time to grow.
As for layers, again, no limits on slow present state style deposition can be proven to exist,
What state there is is not relative to what was.
What evidence of ANY transmission in the days of Noah . . .
Obviously you think that has some meaning. Explain why and how taking something in this present state, and 'rebuilding' it even relates?
He did it instantly.How long was he going to wait with these guys?
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He did it instantly.
How do you know it wasn't science that caused them to be born deaf?Oh this horrid thing called science. What evils it hides. Imagine giving the babe and the woman the ability to hear when God allowed them to be born deaf. SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE!!!!:
I accept your facts, but I reject your theory and substitute it for my own theory that is also based on those same facts:We have ERV's, and they are evidence of common ancestry between humans and chimps.
I don't appreciate his pro anti biblical lifestyle approach...just sayin..but hey, buy the man a cigar.Wow, this thread is still around, that's amazing! Those siren songs of homology arguments still luring the faithless to the rocks of fallacy and fabrication. Isn't it comforting that Mendelian genetics resides deep enough to avoid the rocks and not so far as to be capsized among the winds and waves of conjecture and mythography. Darwinians are so comical...
BTW, this is going to be way off of topic. Not all Christians are Obama haters, the only thing I don't like about him is he is not Bill Clinton....now back to your regularly scheduled discussion.
Not in any way is that true. You merely impose the present transfer methods and nature of life into the unknown, to get godless conclusions that cannot be supported.We have ERV's, and they are evidence of common ancestry between humans and chimps. Your claims are falsified. Science is not a religion.
Since there are hundreds of annual layers on the trees, the tree rings are the evidence of long growth.
No one needs to refute imaginary ages. We know that you simply apply same state past faith willy nilly across the evidence board. Making the same mistake of believing long ages were required to produce what would take long ages IF produced in this state has NO meaning at all. Not unless one is of your faith. I am not. I believe God. His word was highly supported, and evidenced and observed and tested.The 14C dating matches both the insect and leaf debris found in annual lake varves, and in carbon dioxide captured in annual ice layers in both the Antarctic and in Greenland. That is the evidence, and you have never been able to refute it.
Nonsense. As explained the 'correlation' is ALL religious present state based. You need to stop assuming there was one, and rearranging our evidence to fit. The rzor cuts both ways. I also look at evidence with a different state assumption and it correlates to a higher degree of accuracy! But if you want to foist your claims on us AS science you need more than a belief based starting point. Simple. No way round it.The 14C dating does prove it, as does the correlation between all three methods: lake varves, tree rings, and ice layers.
Hilarious. The impositions man does are also present state earth based, and are 'correlated' and interpreted accordingly. Fact is we do not know what the universe was like either. Furthermore we do not know what laws are in place and what space exists. Do you really expect us to believe that all the observable universe is in our eath space, and golds only 3 D objects and is governed only by our present state earth zone laws? You NEED to FIRST prove it, rather than wildly casting your imagination into the great unknown.Yes, it is. Observations in astronomy have proven that the present state has been the past state for 13 billion years.
There was no science, so the evidence is the record. Evidence against this evidence please??Evidence for Noah, and evidence for different transmission in the past please.
Circular tomfoolery. The reasons for your claims stand exposed, and they are real, and honest folks should be able to realize it.Because the physical laws have not changed in 13 billion years.
Mark, I have to say poetry is not your forte
Try to express your point in clear, boring English, will you?
I beg to differ. Mark's poetry is infinitely better than his science.
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