ANOTHER police shooting: Baton Rouge.

[Ajax 777]

It happened again.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_578b9c19e4b03fc3ee51383b

Where will it all end?

 

[JustOneWay]

What political angle to this tragic breaking news event would you like to discuss at this time?

 

[Ajax 777]

What political angle to this tragic breaking news event would you like to discuss at this time?

Not really fishing for angles. Just want to hear my fellow posters weigh in on this, and see if any furtive issues emerge.

Do you have any thoughts on why this keeps taking place? Like, for instance, do you see any potential connection between this horrifying trend and the Black Lives Matter movement? Or do you think, conversely, this furthers the case for increased gun control? Or does anything else perhaps occur to you personally that you'd like to share?

My personal thoughts are that police are undeserving of the current ire being projected upon them. What do you think, J1W?

 

[JustOneWay]

Not really fishing for angles. Just want to hear my fellow posters weigh in on this, and see if any furtive issues emerge.

This seems contradictory.

Do you have any thoughts on why this keeps taking place? Like, for instance, do you see any potential connection between this horrifying trend and the Black Lives Matter movement? Or do you think, conversely, this furthers the case for increased gun control? Or does anything else perhaps occur to you personally that you'd like to share?

I would say all of this is a potential factor. First though, the details of this current event are unknown, so to say this tragedy has anything to do with BLM is premature. There will be no gun control.

My personal thoughts are that police are undeserving of the current ire being projected upon them. What do you think, J1W?

Yes. These police in this particular current event are most likely undeserving, but then again I cannot even begin to discuss it until some details emerge.

 

[Ajax 777]

This seems contradictory.

In what way, if I might inquire?

I would say all of this is a potential factor. First though, the details of this current event are unknown, so to say this tragedy has anything to do with BLM is premature. There will be no gun control.

A thoughtful response. Thank you.

Yes. These police in this particular current event are most likely undeserving, but then again I cannot even begin to discuss it until some details emerge.

Fair enough. It did just happen a mere three hours ago (from the time of this post) but an emerging of the factual details is indeed necessary to the formation of an informed opinion.

 

[JustOneWay]

In what way, if I might inquire?

It was not meant to be derogatory at all....just an observation that you claim there is no fishing for a political angle while admitting that the thread was created to discover potential political angles. That to me, sounds like fishing for a political angle. The reason I asked is to see what is the political purpose of the thread. It seems fair to ask for a political angle to a thread in the politics forum.

 

[Ajax 777]

It was not meant to be derogatory at all....just an observation that you claim there is no fishing for a political angle while admitting that the thread was created to discover potential political angles. That to me, sounds like fishing for a political angle. The reason I asked is to see what is the political purpose of the thread. It seems fair to ask for a political angle to a thread in the politics forum.

Why, I must exclaim: very well-exposited indeed. Very well, then: I must confess I was myself searching for the political angles of the others in the forum while myself disavowing any of my own, but I do have one: that police are victims of a current misperception by society overall due to a lack of bipartisan understanding — they are NOT enforcers of a racist agenda, as many have asserted, but are rather victims caught in the crossfire of racial tensions which tend to sometimes fail to deeply look before they leap to conclusions. Conclusions, upon which they jump to act.

 

[JustOneWay]

I tend to dismiss the individual's racial aspect, and blame more of the problem on current training techniques including racial profiling. A discussion over whether racial profiling is a part of a racist agenda would be a good one.

 

[Ajax 777]

Do you personally feel racial profiling has played a part in this day's current civil unrest, in which BLM has so quickly gained such ground among Americans? Or do you feel like there may be some other force at work among millennial and current-gen perceptions which has added fuel to the fire? Just asking.

 

[JustOneWay]

Do you personally feel racial profiling has played a part in this day's current civil unrest, in which BLM has so quickly gained such ground among Americans? Or do you feel like there may be some other force at work among millennial and current-gen perceptions which has added fuel to the fire? Just asking.

When it comes to black people? Racial profiling has absolutely played a part of the current civil unrest. They are tired of it, and rightfully so. But black people are not the only people in the group who are tired, many concerned citizens outside of the black community are also tired of it.

 

[Ajax 777]

When it comes to black people? Racial profiling has absolutely played a part of the current civil unrest. They are tired of it, and rightfully so. But black people are not the only people in the group who are tired, many concerned citizens outside of the black community are also tired of it.

Please consider yourself heartfully invited to expand on which "citizens outside of the black community" are equally marginalized by the prescience of racial profiling. In what way are other minorities (apart from black people) so disenfranchised as to result in shootings like this one and the one in Dallas?

Voices That Carry, I'd like to hear from you as well.

You guys (and gals) rock.

 

[JustOneWay]

Please consider yourself heartfully invited to expand on which "citizens outside of the black community" are equally marginalized by the prescience of racial profiling. In what way are other minorities (apart from black people) so disenfranchised as to result in shootings like this one and the one in Dallas?

Voices That Carry, I'd like to hear from you as well.

You guys (and gals) rock.

I did not say that others outside the black community are being racially profiled per say, but that others outside the black community stand with the blacks community. I am sure other groups are 'racially' profiled, or at least profiled based on their physical characteristics when set them apart from others. In NYC, black and Hispanic people were profiled MUCH more than whites.

In about 83 percent of cases, the person stopped was black or Hispanic, even though the two groups accounted for just over half the population

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/opinion/racial-discrimination-in-stop-and-frisk.html?_r=0


Again, we should not even bring this current shooting into the picture until there is some details describing the shooter or shooters.

 

[dogs4thewin]

When it comes to black people? Racial profiling has absolutely played a part of the current civil unrest. They are tired of it, and rightfully so. But black people are not the only people in the group who are tired, many concerned citizens outside of the black community are also tired of it.

but unrest is not the way to go about it.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I did not say that others outside the black community are being racially profiled per say, but that others outside the black community stand with the blacks community. I am sure other groups are 'racially' profiled, or at least profiled based on their physical characteristics when set them apart from others. In NYC, black and Hispanic people were profiled MUCH more than whites.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/opinion/racial-discrimination-in-stop-and-frisk.html?_r=0


Again, we should not even bring this current shooting into the picture until there is some details describing the shooter or shooters.

among which would be if it was planned. As opposed to shooting once they were confronted since this particular case DID involve a call to report something.

 

[JustOneWay]

but unrest is not the way to go about it.

Civil unrest has always been a part of the American experience. For many, it is the second to last action in an attempt to change a perceived civil wrong.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Civil unrest has always been a part of the American experience. For many, it is the second to last action in an attempt to change a perceived civil wrong.

It is not the right way to go about it. There seems to be a LOT of unrest at this point, and yet if unrest worked it would not be needed.

 

[JustOneWay]

It is not the right way to go about it. There seems to be a LOT of unrest at this point, and yet if unrest worked it would not be needed.

Civil unrest has many levels. Anti abortion activists protesting abortion clinics is civil unrest. Do you frown upon such civil unrest?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Civil unrest has many levels. Anti abortion activists protesting abortion clinics is civil unrest. Do you frown upon such civil unrest?

To me civil unrest is riots.

 

[JustOneWay]

To me civil unrest is riots.

That is more akin to civil disturbance. Civil unrest does not mean there will be violence.

 

[Ajax 777]

I personally do frown upon such civil unrest as the recent assaults upon law enforcement officers seems to indicate, as it is NOT the fault of police that bigots and racists exist. In fact, they are called upon to defend ANY American from his/her attacker when called upon to do so, as violence is uncalled for in every case except foreign invasion, like we saw in the fictional fantasy of films like Red Dawn and such.