Another person shot in their own home

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We know why the police were there, the neighbour rang the non-emergency police line to say the neighbours door was open. We also have the body cam footage in which the officer is moving around the side of the house, never identifies themselves, and there's 2 seconds between "put your hands up" and the shooting.

What more do you need?

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We know why the police were there, the neighbour rang the non-emergency police line to say the neighbours door was open. We also have the body cam footage in which the officer is moving around the side of the house, never identifies themselves, and there's 2 seconds between "put your hands up" and the shooting.

What more do you need?

Okay thanks for that. It just seemed like a lot of guessing. The question really remains as to whether the police believed they were responding to a possible burglary in progress or not. If so they wouldn't announce themselves.

An open door could very well mean a burglary in progress.

Okay after doing some reading it sure sounds like the officer screwed up. He most likely will face charges. And appropriately so.
 
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Things like this happen. No one is excusing this. However, it seems like a few people here want to blast cops in general when things like this happen. The facts are these. Cops are found to have used excessive force in a less than 3% of force cases. That's tiny. That goes to show how well trained they are. Would we like to see zero? Of course, but when dealing with humans you won't see that.
 
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Things like this happen. No one is excusing this. However, it seems like a few people here want to blast cops in general when things like this happen. The facts are these. Cops are found to have used excessive force in a less than 3% of force cases. That's tiny. That goes to show how well trained they are. Would we like to see zero? Of course, but when dealing with humans you won't see that.

I don’t think 3% is tiny at all. That’s 1 in 33. For a larger department, you could be talking about multiple cases per week.

That’s assuming that those findings aren’t skewed heavily in favor of the officers, which....
 
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Things like this happen. No one is excusing this. However, it seems like a few people here want to blast cops in general when things like this happen. The facts are these. Cops are found to have used excessive force in a less than 3% of force cases. That's tiny. That goes to show how well trained they are. Would we like to see zero? Of course, but when dealing with humans you won't see that.
Most people do not commit crimes. Arguing that most people do not commit crime is not a reason to ignore it. Many "high crime" areas do not have rampant crime among many people, it is a small percentage in terms of population. Police misconduct, violence, corruption, etc. need not be a high percentage to be an issue. We should expect the highest standards of police officers and must address problems rather than let the rot of that corruption or recklessness fester.

The real problem with this argument is that it's quite ignorant and lacking any forethought. In a study of the Chicago Police Department, a small percentage of police officers accounted for a large percentage of the complaints:
Repeaters only make up a small fraction of the more than 12,000 officers on Chicago’s force — perhaps 1 percent to 10 percent of the officers in the database, depending on where you draw the line — but are responsible for a huge fraction of the complaints: 10 percent of the officers who had received complaints generated 30 percent of the total departmental complaints since 2011. The 10 individual repeaters with the most complaints in the past five years averaged 23.4 complaints against them in that span.

It's only a small percentage of officers and they affect a lot of people.
 
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