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Another NASA lie; or worse?

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GOD spoke and formed the Universe. That sounds louder than any bang I could imagine....
That's marvelous, but completely irrelevant. The creation (if that's what it is) tells us a lot about its beginnings. Through studying it, certain things have come to light, like the big bang theory.

Don't forget, scientists are the ones who actually study Gods creation.
 
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GOD spoke and formed the Universe. That sounds louder than any bang I could imagine....
Literalist teaching moment:

Considering what we mean by "speak" - an activity that at least requires some kind of medium in which sound waves may propagate - what was God speaking into? I won't even ask if he used his mouth.
 
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Pro tip: Just as you can't plant crops in a 'magnetic field', the 'big bang' was not a bang or an explosion or anything of the sort. It's just a name that stuck because it was catchy.

If you were aware of this already, I apologize; I just don't like that particular misconception and don't want to see it spread to anyone.
No problem. One can only have sound were there is atmosphere. GOD can speak in a still small voice.
 
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That's marvelous, but completely irrelevant. The creation (if that's what it is) tells us a lot about its beginnings. Through studying it, certain things have come to light, like the big bang theory.

Don't forget, scientists are the ones who actually study Gods creation.
So what? Does "In our considered OPINION," put a roof over your head, clothes on your back or food on the table. No. In fact, it may be taking a lot more money out of your pocket than you'd care to know.
 
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Seeing the sheer stupidity of this comment, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Satan doesn't have to adjust instument reading, he only have to instill false pride among those who study the results. That is more than enough.
 
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Satan doesn't have to adjust instument reading, he only have to instill false pride among those who study the results. That is more than enough.

What would false pride do - if your measurements say "X" then pride cannot make it say "Y." It also can't make all the other scientists see "Y" instead of "X."
 
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So we get yet another article trying to tell us a so-called "Big bang" ever happened:

"Cold spot could be relic of Big Bang

CHICAGO (Reuters) - A cold spot in the oldest radiation in the universe could be the first sign of a cosmic glitch that might have originated shortly after the Big Bang, British and Spanish scientists said on Thursday.

They think this spot -- detected on satellite maps of microwave radiation -- might be a cosmic defect or texture, a holdover from the universe's infancy. But they said their theory would need confirmation.
Such defects or textures, they theorize, reflect a flaw in the pattern of the universe as it formed -- think of a snag in pantyhose or a flaw in a diamond.
"If the cold spot is indeed proven to be a texture, it will completely change our view of how the universe evolved following the Big Bang," said Mike Hobson, of the Astrophysics Group at the University of Cambridge's Cavendish Laboratory, whose study appears in the journal Science.""

I know that technically anybody can perform science and make a breakthrough, but leave it to the professionals please.


Nevermind that "brits and spanish" get to use good US-funded tax-money; but they use it to try and prove yet again the mythical "evolution"? What if it was the Devil that tricked their instruments instead?
Where did you get this tidbit of information? It states nowhere that America is involved. Maybe Spain and Great Britain have their own scientists and labs, isn't that a radical idea.
(Unless there's more in the article, but you just copied and pasted it without a link. That is actually a form of plagiarism)

Big Bang =! Evolution

Prove your mythical Devil before stating that he did anything to influence the instruments.
 
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So what? Does "In our considered OPINION," put a roof over your head, clothes on your back or food on the table. No. In fact, it may be taking a lot more money out of your pocket than you'd care to know.
If you'd rather save a few bucks and sit in smokey badly ventilated caves wearing furs while daubing buffalo shapes on the walls that's fine. But the study of this universe (or creation) has improved our lives dramatically.

Actually would money even be an issue without such study?

Furthermore, we probably wouldn't have furs, fire, or walldye without it.

I'm sorry, I just cannot see your point here.
 
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Sorry, but I don't buy this. Christianity had to contend with Roman politics for centuries, so that you could now have the possibility of thinking for yourself. And now it is be wasted trying to prove exactly what of any eternal importance?


lol

Yes.... it was the romans....
 
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Could be. But LittleNipper isn't.

I wouldn't dream of wasting my time with someone who has beliefs so contradictory to reality. They won't change their minds, and those on the fence wouldn't find people like him reasonable.
 
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Satan doesn't have to adjust instument reading, he only have to instill false pride among those who study the results. That is more than enough.


Or instill ignorance in those who wish to return us to the dark ages.
 
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Sorry, but I don't buy this. Christianity had to contend with Roman politics for centuries, so that you could now have the possibility of thinking for yourself.
The Roman Empire fell 550 years ago and the Protestant Reformation was slightly after that. What the heck is taking you Creationists so long then?
 
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Literalist teaching moment:

Considering what we mean by "speak" - an activity that at least requires some kind of medium in which sound waves may propagate - what was God speaking into? I won't even ask if he used his mouth.
Is telepathy a possible form of speech, or is your mind far to broad to consider that? So much for free-thinkers,
 
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The Roman Empire fell 550 years ago and the Protestant Reformation was slightly after that. What the heck is taking you Creationists so long then?
You for get Charlemane's "Holy Roman Empire" and also Constantinoble. My, the things you have not heard....
 
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Or instill ignorance in those who wish to return us to the dark ages.
You have aready brought us to the POST MODERN AGE. We are now moving into a new age of darkness. The Anti-Christ should be showing up. Only the Rapture is left for Biblical fulfillment and then that age will begin.
 
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If you'd rather save a few bucks and sit in smokey badly ventilated caves wearing furs while daubing buffalo shapes on the walls that's fine. But the study of this universe (or creation) has improved our lives dramatically.

Actually would money even be an issue without such study?

Furthermore, we probably wouldn't have furs, fire, or walldye without it.

I'm sorry, I just cannot see your point here.
Your house, furnace, automobile, the food you eat, was not designed, build, or grown through adherance to evolutionary theory---much less the promotion of the "Big Bang" THEORY. PS>>> EVEN THE ROMANS HAD MONEY
 
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