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No, here’s your Neanderthal, nothing ape like about them.
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Nothing ape like about any of our ancestors once you remove the evolutionary PR and pre-conceived silly notions of ape like ancestors from the artists minds.
Because we have had this conversation many many times. People keep insisting that the Bible is a metaphor (NOT literal) and I keep insisting that the Bible is a Paradigm (literal). Everything pretty much all comes down to that.(This is a rhetorical "what", I don't require an explanation.)
Science calls it the snowball earth. There actually has been six major extinctions where a remnant repopulated the earth as we read about in the story of Noah. That is why I say the story is a Paradigm. The story deals with Noah's world but we know that the entire world has seen many extinction events.I still haven't seen any evidence whatsoever for a global flood in this thread. Nothing.
Because we have had this conversation many many times. People keep insisting that the Bible is a metaphor (NOT literal) and I keep insisting that the Bible is a Paradigm (literal). Everything pretty much all comes down to that.
This is what I don’t get. You miss where the dates and details of snowball Earth don’t match the dates and details of the story of Noah.Science calls it the snowball earth. There actually has been six major extinctions where a remnant repopulated the earth as we read about in the story of Noah. That is why I say the story is a Paradigm. The story deals with Noah's world but we know that the entire world has seen many extinction events.
"The snowball-Earth episodes occurred before the sudden radiation of multicellular bioforms, known as the Cambrian explosion. The most recent snowball episode may have triggered the evolution of multicellularity. Another, much earlier and longer snowball episode, the Huronian glaciation, which occurred 2400 to 2100 Mya, may have been triggered by the first appearance of oxygen in the atmosphere, the "Great Oxygenation Event"." wiki
We read about this in Genesis chapter one verse two: "The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters."
Also Jeremiah 4:23 "I looked on the earth, and behold, it was formless and void; And to the heavens, and they had no light. 24 I looked on the mountains, and behold, they were quaking, And all the hills moved to and fro"
There are accounts of a devastating flood in the ancient world in many cultures, right across the globe, from the Middle East to China, to native American cultures. The closest in content to the Biblical account comes from Sumeria. Mircea Eliade provides some further detail in his tome ´a history of religious ideas´. I think Eliade was an atheist, or a deist maybe. He concludes there was probably either a worldwide flood or a series of localised but catastrophic floods. So, there are strong indications from outside of the Bible that there was either a global flood or a number of regional floods that were drastic enough to be recorded as apocalyptic events.
This is what I don’t get. You miss where the dates and details of snowball Earth don’t match the dates and details of the story of Noah.
That is correct.It's not science.
No.ruthiesea said:It's fake information trying to imitate science.
You mean it ain't what you purport it to be.ruthiesea said:Hence the prefix 'pseudo', meaning it ain't what it purports to be.
Show me, please; chapter and verse.It's something that purports to be science,
Correct.ruthiesea said:...but is not.
You'll have to convince me it is science before you can convince me it is pseudoscience.ruthiesea said:Hence the prefix 'pseudo', meaning it ain't science.
Yes. The best evidence, relating to the biblical account, is for a regional flood affecting what people in the ANE might have thought of as the world, i.e. originating in the Med and covering an area from the Black sea down though modern Turkey, Iraq and parts of Iran, Syria and Kuwait OR that a 3 mile wide comet struck the earth near Madagascar, leading to a genuinely worldwide catastrophic event, involving the displacement of a lot of water (but not a global flood). Who knows? I agree with Bruce K Waltke's conclusion that the initial content of Genesis is an artistic impression of events the narrator didn't fully understand, the point of which is to get across theological rather than scientific insights.
Well bully for ICR and AiG.The ICR and AiG like to promote creationism as being scientific (even though it's not).
Does this Bruce K Waltke also believe they didn't fully understand why they lived on the Ark for over a year?I agree with Bruce K Waltke's conclusion that the initial content of Genesis is an artistic impression of events the narrator didn't fully understand,
Ah.Bruce K Waltke's
Gosh darnit, I forgot about the darn paradigms.It's a "shadow" or "type". Don't ignore the paradigm! (Or something).
Irrelevant to our conversation, cro magnons and Neanderthals are not the same thing (and only a portion of the human population has any Neanderthal DNA). Your claim was that CRO MAGNONS were portrayed with exaggerated hair, etc. Defend or discard that claim, or like I said before, I will not continue this discussion with you.Yes, yes. We only mated with them but don’t share ancestory, just have their genes in us. Yet having shared genes is why you claim ape and man came from the same common ancestor.
But there goes ignoring scientific definitions again.
Definition of SUBSPECIES
“a category in biological classification that ranks immediately below a species and designates a population of a particular geographic region genetically distinguishable from other such populations of the same species and capable of interbreeding successfully with them where its range overlaps theirs”
Haven’t we discussed this ignoring your own scientific definitions before?
Why Am I Neanderthal?
You are all just confused. They were simply different races of humans, that looked different, like a poodle looks different from a Husky. But since evolutionists refuse to apply observations of how we observe life to propagate and variation to enter the species to the past, they get confused. I understand. I would be confused too if I ignored all the observational evidence and refused to apply it to the past. I certainly don’t believe our ancestors looked like we do, any more than I think a poodle looks like a wolf.
Those races of humans just went extinct, as 99% of life on this planet has went extinct at one time or another.
Contraire, there is an exact match because a paradigm is literal, precise and exact. A metaphor is not literal and not exact. People do not understand the difference. For example if you want exact precise science go to NASA because they are out there in the real world where things do not work if you do not get it right. The last thing you want is a challenger disaster because a techie somewhere screwed up the work he did on a seal. Then you have all the school children in American watching their science heroes die on live TV.This is what I don’t get. You miss where the dates and details of snowball Earth don’t match the dates and details of the story of Noah.
Yes theology uses shadow and type, but science uses the word Paradigm. I recently read Jonathan Cahn's book: "The Paradigm" so that helps me to explain what a paradigm is. Also we have what we call paradigm shifts in science. I first learned about them from my first son. The one that taught me how to use computers when he was in kindergarten. My first son is a electronic engineer and my second son is a computer engineer. So I get them to explain stuff to me all the time.It's a "shadow" or "type". Don't ignore the paradigm! (Or something).
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