another bc question

[thereselittleflower]

I am not following Msgnr. Segreccia's logic. If there is a chance that the BC pill can be abortive, then there is a chance that a nun could have an abortion by taking the pill. This "legitate defense" can therfore become an offense.

This is what I don't understand either . .

I am going to assume that scientific knowledge of the pill being abortive was very much lacking in the 1960's, otherwise there probably would have been no allowances, whether from the Vatican or from a Bishop; it doesnt matter. Today, with full knowledge of its implications, the Church is firmly against contraception, so this isolated event that occured back in the 60's is totally irrelevent. Wouldn't you say?

It is what I am wondering too . . .


Peace in Him!

 

[thereselittleflower]

Call me a skeptic, but if someone claims that something has "Vatican approval" but is unable to provide any proof of such approval, it is simply unconvincing. I've seen enough unsubstantiated accusations, on on plethora of topics, leveled against the Catholic Church and/or "the Vatican," without substantiation, to realize that anyone can (and often do) say anything, especially when they've got an agenda, or disagreement with the Church on some teaching. I have found that too often people will use whatever "club" they can to further their battle against the Church, if it suits their needs.

I would have to agree . . . . I would have to research more though to know for sure (if possible). . . .


Peace in Him!

 

[MariaRegina]

From the Internet site: Oral Contraceptive History - Birth Control Pills

inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blthepill.htm (deliberately disabled)

Margaret Sanger was a lifelong advocate of women's rights and the use of birth control. During the 1930s, it was discovered that hormones prevented ovulation in rabbits. In 1950, while in her 80s, Sanger underwrote the research necessary to create the first human birth control pill. Sanger raised $150,000 for the project.

From what I recall in my studies in NFP, scientists really didn't know exactly how the birth control pill worked initially, except that it did stop ovulation, hence a great medical aid for endometriosis (perhaps a coverup?) .. it has only been in recent years that we have discovered its abortifacient properties.

Are the nuns still being given birth control pills OR was this only during the 1960's?

 

[thereselittleflower]

From the Internet site: Oral Contraceptive History - Birth Control Pills

inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blthepill.htm (deliberately disabled)



From what I recall in my studies in NFP, scientists really didn't know exactly how the birth control pill worked initially, except that it did stop ovulation, hence a great medical aid for endometriosis (perhaps a coverup?) .. it has only been in recent years that we have discovered its abortifacient properties.

Thanks Aria . . .

Are the nuns still being given birth control pills OR was this only during the 1960's?

It was for avery specific puprpose .during a specific time frame ftom what I have read so far . . . .

Peace in Him!

 

[Benedicta00]

Another similiar example, although this deals with abortion rather than ABC. I know a man whose mother died when he was 2. She was pregnant and was diagnosed with cancer. Dr advised her to have an abortion, and begin treatment for the cancer right away. (treatment while pregnant would have killed the unborn baby). The mom would neither abort nor undergo treatment. Baby was born healthy; mom died shortly thereafter.

I just wanted to let you know aborting doesn’t guarantee life saving treatment. I know of a woman who this happened to. She was married with a young daughter and was pregnant and during the ultra sound found out she also had cancer, she aborted to treat the cancer and still died. Now both her and the baby are gone.

The principle is, no greater love is there than to lay one’s life down.