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nyj
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Monica02 said:
Annulments deal with the intent of both parties. Each case needs to be examined based on its own merits. There is nothing, afaik, that would be a guaranteed "lock" for an annulment. Unless of course you also consider "Lack of Form" in there... in which case, any Catholic getting married outside of the Catholic Church w/o the consent of their local ordinary (ie: bishop) can petition (and receive) this form of "annulment".
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christiangirrl said:
Yes. In these matters, the Church errs on the side of caution, for the spiritual well-being of the parties involved. Better for you to live as brother and sister in your current marriage (if you have been remarried for example) while waiting for a ruling on an annulment, rather than continue relations with your new spouse and in actuality be commiting adultery.
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DreamTheater said:
Actually, while abuse (physical, verbal and/or emotional) may be obvious grounds for a divorce, abuse may not be an obvious grounds for an annulment.
It may prove to be a factor in the granting of a annulment, but it's nowhere near a "lock" that being in an abusive marriage will get you an annulment if you divorced.
As always, the best advice would be to consult a priest on such matters.
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i'm going through the process right now actually adn i know questions i've been asked was did i feel forced into the marraige? what was my intent before marrying as in "for the rest of my life"? they also look at your age when you married i'm assuming for a maturity thing, and they go into your background like how you were raised, what kind of influence did your parents have on your desire and thought process of marriage. things like that 
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All seven sacraments require three things to be valid: form, matter, and intent. If any of these are missing, the sacrament is invalid.
For the sacrament of Matrimony, the form is the Catholic wedding Mass (or other ceremony, with dispensation from the bishop), the matter is an unmarried man and unmarried woman, and the intent of the two must be to enter into what the Church considers marriage - a completely voluntary union, until death, and an openness to having children.
Lack of form's the easy one. If a Catholic was married outside the Church without a dispensation, the annulment would probably be granted rather quickly. Lack of form also comes up when a Catholic was married outside the Church but wants to stay married, and the marriage can be validated by the bishop, basically granting the necessary dispensation later.
Intent can be difficult, since we don't know what someone was thinking when they get married, but that's what the process is for. The annulment tribunal has to determine whether the two people intended to enter into marriage as the Church teaches it to be.
For the sacrament of Matrimony, the form is the Catholic wedding Mass (or other ceremony, with dispensation from the bishop), the matter is an unmarried man and unmarried woman, and the intent of the two must be to enter into what the Church considers marriage - a completely voluntary union, until death, and an openness to having children.
Lack of form's the easy one. If a Catholic was married outside the Church without a dispensation, the annulment would probably be granted rather quickly. Lack of form also comes up when a Catholic was married outside the Church but wants to stay married, and the marriage can be validated by the bishop, basically granting the necessary dispensation later.
Intent can be difficult, since we don't know what someone was thinking when they get married, but that's what the process is for. The annulment tribunal has to determine whether the two people intended to enter into marriage as the Church teaches it to be.
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