Ann Coulter has finally had enough

[Hank77]

He said he didn't need to do this because it was the job of Congress to do it and Congress has refused.

Since when is it the job of Congress to appropriate funds in an amount that is greater than they deem fiscally responsible with taxpayer's money? They are hired to use those funds wisely, not to fulfill the desires of a President.

imo, Trump doesn't like that funds for border fencing is being doled out in smaller amounts. He doesn't like that he doesn't have control over taxpayer's money and has to operate within the limits of the powers given to the executive branch. He should have thought about that before he ran for President of the US.

 

[Sistrin]

Since when is it the job of Congress to appropriate funds in an amount that is greater than they deem fiscally responsible with taxpayer's money?

Congress does this all the time. Please cite the where Congress voted to approve one point seven billion dollars in cash loaded on pallets to be delivered to Iran by charter aircraft in the middle of the night.

They are hired to use those funds wisely, not to fulfill the desires of a President.

A comment which serves to prove my point, that Congress is failing woefully.

imo, Trump doesn't like that funds for border fencing is being doled out in smaller amounts.

Obviously. The difference is in regard to the devastation caused by the import of illegal narcotics into our country and crimes committed by illegal immigrants, Trump actually cares about the American public as opposed to simply wanting to increase a voter base.

He doesn't like that he doesn't have control over taxpayer's money and has to operate within the limits of the powers given to the executive branch.

Trump is not a dictator, nor does he wish to be.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

Congress does this all the time. Please cite the where Congress voted to approve one point seven billion dollars in cash loaded on pallets to be delivered to Iran by charter aircraft in the middle of the night.

Non-story.
AP fact check: Trump revisits old fictions about Iran money

Obviously. The difference is in regard to the devastation caused by the import of illegal narcotics into our country and crimes committed by illegal immigrants, Trump actually cares about the American public as opposed to simply wanting to increase a voter base.

Most illegal drugs come through legal ports of entry.
https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2018-07/DIR-040-17_2017-NDTA.pdf

Most illegal immigrants come into country legally and overstay visas.
Where Does Illegal Immigration Mostly Occur? Here's What The Data Tell Us

Illegal immigrants have a lower rate of violent crimes than US citizens.
Mollie Tibbetts' death is being used to push debunked ideas about illegal immigration and violent crime

If he cared about the devastation of illegal drugs, he would bolster treatment programs for addicts.
If he cared about illegal immigration, he would enact programs like e-verify. He would also not be threatening to limit aid to Central and South American countries.

Trump is not a dictator, nor does he wish to be.

Really?
Donald Trump's 9 Shout-Outs to Notorious Dictators - The Atlantic

 

[Sistrin]

Non-story.

So Fact Check says. But what to they know. Their argument breaks down here, quote:

"The $1.8 (actually $1.7 billion) was a debt owed to Iran..."

Sympathy for the devil. Past administrations withheld assets frozen in order to curb Iran's promotion of terrorism in the region. But in service of the Obama administration's slavish desire to broker a deal, any deal, with Iran in regard to their nuclear weapons program, such concerns were irrelevant. From the Washington Free Beacon, quote:

"Michael Rubin, a former Pentagon official and expert on rogue regimes, said that cash payments of this nature are "highly irregular."

"There’s no reason it needed to be paid now. After all, successive administrations, both Democratic and Republican, have delayed payments so as to avoid funding Iranian terrorism," Rubin said. "Likewise, if the United States freezes accounts linked to al Qaeda or Hamas, releasing it and saying, ‘It’s their money anyway,’ would not be a tenable explanation. Cash payments are highly irregular."

As the article states the Iranians viewed the cash payment as 'ransom', despite the denials of such by the Obama administration.

"Not only has the delivery of the millions of dollars been perceived as a ransom, provided as an incentive to seize more hostages …. but because the money was delivered in cash the payment bolstered the strength of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and augmented its ability to finance and conduct terrorism," he said.

Most illegal drugs come through legal ports of entry.

So? If an American citizen dies from an overdose of heroin, we are supposed to be relieved the heroin which killed them came through the port of Baltimore? That makes it ok?

Most illegal immigrants come into country legally and overstay visas.

Even if true, so? Illegal immigrants come across the southern border. Thus a border problem exist and needs to be addressed.

Illegal immigrants have a lower rate of violent crimes than US citizens.

This is a leftist trope. Regardless, here is a truth you won't be able to get around. As a country we have no choice but to deal with our own in house criminals. We do have a choice in regard to importing some other countries criminals.

If he cared about the devastation of illegal drugs, he would bolster treatment programs for addicts.

You do not cure addiction by subsidizing addiction.

If he cared about illegal immigration, he would enact programs like e-verify.

I wonder if that would include voter ID?

He would also not be threatening to limit aid to Central and South American countries.

Given the governments in charge of those countries, most of that money is wasted.

Really?

You are correct, Trump should have started a war with each of those guys.

 

[Hank77]

I agree with post 23, with the poster's sources.

Trump is not a dictator, nor does he wish to be.

That's your opinion.

 

[Hank77]

So Fact Check says. But what to they know. Their argument breaks down here, quote:

"The $1.8 (actually $1.7 billion) was a debt owed to Iran..."

Sympathy for the devil. Past administrations withheld assets frozen in order to curb Iran's promotion of terrorism in the region. But in service of the Obama administration's slavish desire to broker a deal, any deal, with Iran in regard to their nuclear weapons program, such concerns were irrelevant. From the Washington Free Beacon, quote:

"Michael Rubin, a former Pentagon official and expert on rogue regimes, said that cash payments of this nature are "highly irregular."

"There’s no reason it needed to be paid now. After all, successive administrations, both Democratic and Republican, have delayed payments so as to avoid funding Iranian terrorism," Rubin said. "Likewise, if the United States freezes accounts linked to al Qaeda or Hamas, releasing it and saying, ‘It’s their money anyway,’ would not be a tenable explanation. Cash payments are highly irregular."

As the article states the Iranians viewed the cash payment as 'ransom', despite the denials of such by the Obama administration.

"Not only has the delivery of the millions of dollars been perceived as a ransom, provided as an incentive to seize more hostages …. but because the money was delivered in cash the payment bolstered the strength of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and augmented its ability to finance and conduct terrorism," he said.



So? If an American citizen dies from an overdose of heroin, we are supposed to be relieved the heroin which killed them came through the port of Baltimore? That makes it ok?



Even if true, so? Illegal immigrants come across the southern border. Thus a border problem exist and needs to be addressed.



This is a leftist trope. Regardless, here is a truth you won't be able to get around. As a country we have no choice but to deal with our own in house criminals. We do have a choice in regard to importing some other countries criminals.



You do not cure addiction by subsidizing addiction.



I wonder if that would include voter ID?



Given the governments in charge of those countries, most of that money is wasted.



You are correct, Trump should have started a war with each of those guys.

We should be using the limited resources available where they will be the most useful to keep out drugs and illegal immigrants, rather than to fulfill unwise political campaign promises.

He knows he's in trouble with his base over this promise. He's begun trying to change their chant from 'Build that Wall' to 'Finish that Wall."
He hasn't built one inch additional inch of wall.....

 

[The Barbarian]

Congress does this all the time. Please cite the where Congress voted to approve one point seven billion dollars in cash loaded on pallets to be delivered to Iran by charter aircraft in the middle of the night.

The U.S. told Iran that they couldn't have their money (we seized their money in the U.S. years ago) until they shut down their weapons program. So it wasn't a treaty, it was just a demand, as part of a U.S.-led coalition.

When Iran complied, we let them have their money. Since it wasn't United States funds, no congressional authorization was necessary.

A comment which serves to prove my point, that Congress is failing woefully.

Someone led you down the path on that. Did you really think that those were our funds? Seriously?

Obviously. The difference is in regard to the devastation caused by the import of illegal narcotics into our country and crimes committed by illegal immigrants

As you saw, illegal aliens are much less likely to commit crimes against us than are native-born Americans.

While any death is tragic, a February 2018 study by the Cato Institute using 2015 crime statistics from Texas found immigrants in the country illegally were 25 percent less likely to be convicted of homicide than native-born Americans. (Legal immigrants were 87 percent less likely.)


According to the study, immigrants in the country illegally were also 11.5 percent less likely than native-born Americans to be convicted of sexual assault and 79 percent less likely to be convicted of larceny.


The study found higher conviction rates among illegal immigrants for gambling, kidnapping, smuggling and vagrancy, but those offenses were rare and made up a tiny fraction of overall crime in Texas in 2015.


A separate March 2018 study in the journal Criminology looked at whether violent crime increases as the number of immigrants living illegally in a community goes up. Researchers found it does not. If anything, the opposite is true: Violent crime appears to fall when more immigrants are living in a community illegally.
FACT CHECK: Trump, Illegal Immigration And Crime

Trump actually cares about the American public as opposed to simply wanting to increase a voter base.

Lying about crime and immigrants doesn't seem like caring.

Trump is not a dictator,

He's just a wannabee. He was furious when he had to be told that he couldn't just order his political opponents jailed:

Why Trump's Order To Jail Hillary Clinton, Comey Is Illegal
In a special report, Ari Melber breaks down an attack on the rule of law by President Trump that is more serious and more criminal than the actions that led to the Mueller probe. Bombshell reporting from 'The New York Times' revealed Trump attempted to order the illegal prosecution of a key witness in the Mueller probe, James Comey and his political rival, Hillary Clinton.
MSNBC's Ari Melber: Why Trump's Order To Jail Hillary Clinton, Comey Is Illegal

nor does he wish to be.

He's a dictator wannabee...

Kim Jong Un, North Korea’s leader who already has a record of brutality and repression, is described by President Trump as a strong head of his country: “He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.”
Trump's dictator envy sends shivers down the spines of Americans who remember World War II

Chinese President Xi Jinping recently consolidated power. Trump told the gathering: “He’s now president for life. President for life. And he’s great.” Trump added, “I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll give that a shot someday.”
Trump says maybe U.S. will have a president for life someday

If he (Putin) says great things about me, I’m going to say great things about him. I’ve already said, he is really very much of a leader. I mean, you can say, ‘Oh, isn’t that a terrible thing’—the man has very strong control over a country. Now, it’s a very different system, and I don’t happen to like the system. But certainly, in that system, he’s been a leader, far more than our president has been a leader.”

 

[The Barbarian]

So Fact Check says. But what to they know.

More than you did, obviously.

"The $1.8 (actually $1.7 billion) was a debt owed to Iran..."

Sympathy for the devil. Past administrations withheld assets frozen in order to curb Iran's promotion of terrorism in the region.

So Obama put together a coalition of nations and told Iran: "You want your money back? Stop your nuclear weapons program, or it's not coming back. And we'll prevent you from selling oil until that happens."

So they caved and the coalition returned Iran's money.

"Michael Rubin, a former Pentagon official and expert on rogue regimes, said that cash payments of this nature are "highly irregular."

Returning to someone, that which is his, seems "highly irregular" to a petty thief, but not to most normal people.

As the article states the Iranians viewed the cash payment as 'ransom', despite the denials of such by the Obama administration.

If someone returns to you something that is yours, you think of it as "ransom?"
Seriously?

EpiscipalMe said: ↑
Most illegal drugs come through legal ports of entry.

Even if true, so?

It means that the wall is useless. More and more illegal aliens are also coming in through ports of entry.

Illegal immigrants come across the southern border.

Actually, more and more of them are coming in by air on the west coast.

(Sistrin learns that illegal aliens are actually less likely to commit crimes than native born Americans, and areas with large numbers of illegal aliens are actually safer than other areas)

This is a leftist trope.

It's just a fact. Would you like us to show you, again?

EpiscipalMe said: ↑
If he cared about the devastation of illegal drugs, he would bolster treatment programs for addicts.

You do not cure addiction by subsidizing addiction.

Seems odd to assume that helping people get off drugs is "subsidizing addiction." That would be "reducing addiction."

(Trump continues to hire illegal aliens at his country clubs)

I wonder if that would include voter ID?

No, voter ID laws are written to prevent American citizens from voting.

 

[seeking.IAM]

I thought the day would never come when I would agree with Ann Coulter. Wrong

 

[Shiloh Raven]

I thought the day would never come when I would agree with Ann Coulter. Wrong

You and me both.

 

[redleghunter]

Congress does this all the time. Please cite the where Congress voted to approve one point seven billion dollars in cash loaded on pallets to be delivered to Iran by charter aircraft in the middle of the night.

Quite a shady deal. They just used the money to pay for a new class of cruise missiles.

 

[The Barbarian]

Quite a shady deal.

Wouldn't seem like it. Obama and the other nations in the coalition were very open about it. "Stop your nuclear weapons program, and you can have your money back."

And when inspectors certified that they had, they got their money back. How could it be more open than that?

They just used the money to pay for a new class of cruise missiles.

Sort of...

TEHRAN -- Some 70 new centers for emergency social services will be launched and developed nationwide by the end of the current Iranian calendar year (March 20, 2019), Reza Ja’fari, the director of Emergency Social Services Organization, has said.

“Last year, 150 centers for emergency social services were established, and we are planning to add 70 more centers by the end of the current year,” Fars quoted Ja’farias saying on Friday.


In 2016, some 197 centers were launched and also 297 minivans for social services were equipped.


The number of centers offering emergency social services in Tehran was limited. Currently, there are 17 centers providing the citizens with emergency social services in Tehran, Jafari added.
Iran to increase emergency social services centers

I suppose you could rig up bombs in the ambulances...

In his opening remarks at the Conference, Dr. Ghodratollah Noroozi, Mayor of Isfahan, expressed his satisfaction with holding this conference in Isfahan and pledged that the city will do its best to observe children’s rights. “This is an investment towards sustainable development in the future,” he added.

Also, Dr. Seyed Ramezan Shojaee Kiasari, Deputy Minister of Interior for International Affairs, highlighted the importance of Iranian cities developing into child-friendly, smart and creative centers across the country: “We should provide children with a safe haven through creating vital spaces, children's parks, secure transportation, creative games, and also children's museums and libraries.”

The Child-Friendly Cities Initiative in Iran, as elsewhere, encourages local governments and other stakeholders to pay greater attention to meeting the needs of their youngest citizens, and ensuring the latter’s participation in local decision making.

UNICEF’s global Child-Friendly Cities Initiative supports municipal governments in realizing the rights of children at the local level using the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child as its foundation.
The Islamic Republic of Iran expands the Child-Friendly Cities Initiative (CFCI)

Iran was going through a huge problem with a decline in social services and infrastructure. Recovering Iranian assets that had been frozen in coalition nations, allowed them to begin the process of rebuilding their infrastructure.

Unfortunately, the United States has its own crisis as funds that could be spent for badly-needed infrastructure renewal are scheduled to be tied up in building a wall to sooth Donald's huge and delicate ego.