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Animal experimentation~

Are you for or against animal experimentations?

  • yes

  • no

  • not sure


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joerose

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Animal experimentation is animal cruelty. I dont know where you get off talking down to other people like you are some authority on the matter. There are no questions that yes in fact it is animal cruelty. On the other hand it is greatly beneficial to medicine etc. I personally am against it.
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I'm against the suffering of animals ... I thought the question was reguarding animal experimentation ... :scratch: If one believes that animal experimentation is animal creulty, then there are many unnecessary stereotypes that individual has and hense needs to study why research done on animals and not on human beings is abundant depending on what's being measured. :)
 
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I am a member of Peta and several other organizations. You have lost credibility in my eyes.:(
Diane_Windsor said:
PETA *rolleyes* These groups have absolutely no credibility in my eyes whatsoever.

I'd much rather go to this website. Here is another site of Yahoo listings to check out.

DW
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Youre right shy21, just because they have fur, four legs and speak a different language than we do doesn't mean their lives arent important and worthy in Gods eyes. After all, the breath of the Holy Spirit is in all creatures. The Bible states it.:preach:
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I wonder why people think that an animal life is so unimportant. A life isnt something to laugh about.
 
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joerose said:
Animal experimentation is animal cruelty. I dont know where you get off talking down to other people like you are some authority on the matter. There are no questions that yes in fact it is animal cruelty. On the other hand it is greatly beneficial to medicine etc. I personally am against it.

I never said that I was an authority on the matter, (my major is human Psychology) I just challenge us to think before they write off all animal experimentation as animal cruelty. It's almost as if we are picturing scientists torturing animals for their own pleasure and not to help relieve the suffering of our fellow humans.

And just for the record, here are the types of animals that are used:
  1. 85% Rats, mice and other rodents. All specially bred laboratory species
  2. 11% Fish, amphibians, reptiles and birds (including many fertilised hen's eggs)
  3. 1% Small mammals other than rodents, mostly rabbits and ferrets
  4. 2.7% Sheep, cows, pigs and other large mammals
  5. 0.3% Dogs and cats. Specially bred for research. No strays or unwanted pets can be used
  6. 0.17% Monkeys, such as marmosets and macaques. Chimpanzees, orang-utans and gorillas have not been used for over 20 years and their use is now banned.
I can't speak for everyone here, but I hold the life of a human more dear than the life of a lab rat. Lab rats can be replaced, people's lives, in my opinion, cannot. I refer to scripture on this matter in which Christ tells us how we are much more valuable than sparrows in Matthew 10:29 - 31.

A wise man once said that our hearts are deceitful above all things, that is why I don't let my heart get bigger than my head. ;) God bless.
 
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Its very obvious that your head is already far bigger than your heart at first glance we see that you are awfully proud of the way you look, hence the picture in the upper right hand corner of your post. Another obvious fact is that you broadcast that your major is in Psychology. I guess that means you haven't gotten a job yet.If you were as great as you want us all to believe then you would probably not have told us what you do. Or, you might have said, I am a Psychologist or a Psychiatrist, but maybe you arent as great as you'd like the world to believe. Most people already know what animals are used in animal experimentation. You have left some out by the way. Maybe you should pull out your text books and study a little harder. God Bless;) Oh, and once again, I repeat..animal experimentation is cruelty to animals, no matter how you look at it.:sigh:
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I never said that I was an authority on the matter, (my major is human Psychology) I just challenge us to think before they write off all animal experimentation as animal cruelty. It's almost as if we are picturing scientists torturing animals for their own pleasure and not to help relieve the suffering of our fellow humans.

And just for the record, here are the types of animals that are used:
  1. 85% Rats, mice and other rodents. All specially bred laboratory species
  2. 11% Fish, amphibians, reptiles and birds (including many fertilised hen's eggs)
  3. 1% Small mammals other than rodents, mostly rabbits and ferrets
  4. 2.7% Sheep, cows, pigs and other large mammals
  5. 0.3% Dogs and cats. Specially bred for research. No strays or unwanted pets can be used
  6. 0.17% Monkeys, such as marmosets and macaques. Chimpanzees, orang-utans and gorillas have not been used for over 20 years and their use is now banned.
I can't speak for everyone here, but I hold the life of a human more dear than the life of a lab rat. Lab rats can be replaced, people's lives, in my opinion, cannot. I refer to scripture on this matter in which Christ tells us how we are much more valuable than sparrows in Matthew 10:29 - 31.

A wise man once said that our hearts are deceitful above all things, that is why I don't let my heart get bigger than my head. ;) God bless.
 
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anna9559 said:
oh, i just noticed that my poll question and the choices don't match! :sorry: also go to peta.org it talks lots about animal experimentation and suffering.
:wave: Your poll questions are just fine. The problem is not with your questions, some people are just rude! Dont worry about it!!
 
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joerose said:
Its very obvious that your head is already far bigger than your heart at first glance we see that you are awfully proud of the way you look, hence the picture in the upper right hand corner of your post. Another obvious . . .

My, my, my, how is the air up there?

joerose said:
I am a member of Peta and several other organizations. You have lost credibility in my eyes.:(

Oh darn-my world is falling apart now :cry: What will I ever do to survive? Here, enjoy some pics.

DW
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Zoomer said:
I think using animals for testing make-up and hair products is ridiculous. However, there is a certain need for animals to be tested with medications before they test them on humans. Unless you suggest we find humans to be test subjects.
:( One problem with this is that animals often dont respond or react to drugs and chemicals as we do.
 
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mycatspice said:
, but I hold the life of a human more dear than the life of a lab rat. Lab rats can be replaced, people's lives, in my opinion, cannot. I refer to scripture on this matter in which Christ tells us how we are much more valuable than sparrows in Matthew 10:29 - 31.

A wise man once said that our hearts are deceitful above all things, that is why I don't let my heart get bigger than my head. ;) God bless.

Just because their life isnt more important than yours doesnt mean you can mistreat them. They have feelings just like you. I for one have no problems with rats.
 
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Diane_Windsor said:
My, my, my, how is the air up there?



Oh darn-my world is falling apart now :cry: What will I ever do to survive? Here, enjoy some pics.

DW
;)
Let me guess..the pictures are of animals being tortured or abused. Dont care to see them.
 
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joerose said:
Let me guess..the pictures are of animals being tortured or abused. Dont care to see them.

Why? Can't stand to see the abuse either? I just dont understand how one kills something that feels pain in the name of "religion" Religion says to eat/kill them so its ok.:( If "religion" told you to kill a baby child...would you do that to?
 
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joerose said:
Let me guess..the pictures are of animals being tortured or abused. Dont care to see them.

Think Spain. Think of Seville and Pamplona. It's not abuse, it's a highly ritualized killing of an animal.

Shy21 said:
I just dont understand how one kills something that feels pain in the name of "religion" Religion says to eat/kill them so its ok.:( If "religion" told you to kill a baby child...would you do that to?

:scratch: This argument coming from a Jew? Lamb sacrifices? Animal sacrifices Passover? See the Old Testament for details.

DW
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Diane_Windsor said:
Think Spain. Think of Seville and Pamplona. It's not abuse, it's a highly ritualized killing of an animal.



:scratch: This argument coming from a Jew? Lamb sacrifices? Animal sacrifices Passover? See the Old Testament for details.

DW
:wave:

Yeah its coming from a Jew. Just because they did it in the OT doesnt mean we Jews do it now.;) I am a Jew not really that religious though
 
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