Angry at God..

[peacekeeper208]

Let me get right to it; I haven't been a Christian for very long..God rescued me from a very bad situation but I won't go into details. Instead I'll just get right to the point: I'm absolutely furious at Him, and I can't seem to stop being angry no matter what I do..
How could a loving God allow such horrific things to happen to His little creatures all over the world? Please don't give me the whole 'it's not God, it's Satan' routine, I know that. I'm asking a broader question. Like why did God even create Satan in the first place? Why would God give us a free will to choose whether or not to sin, since He KNOWS we're gonna? I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything, but to me it just seems like selfishness. Like God lets horrible things happen to us just so He can rescue us and get glory for it...
What good comes of a little girl getting raped and abused her entire childhood? Say she gets older and finds God, and He heals her of all her emotional wounds. That's great and all, but who gets the praise for it? GOD. Ok, so he healed her. The point is why create a situation where healing is required anyway? The poor girl never should've had to go through that, even if she's able to recover..I don't know. Yes, life is short, eternity's forever, and I'm glad to be going to Heaven... but every time I hear about something terrible happening to someone, especially a child or an animal who are completely innocent, I shake my fist at God. Not satan, God. After all, God's in charge; Satan isn't almighty, he's a created being, who can only do what he's allowed to...

This is a huge stumbling point for me; I just can't bear the thought of the God I love not preventing absolutely nightmarish things from happening..when He could at the snap of His fingers.. it just seems so cruel..

This is eating up my peace, I'm just turning more and more bitter, I don't even read my Bible that much anymore, every time I do I end up getting angry..if anyone could give me any kind of spiritual guidance here I'd appreciate it.

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Ok, to those who have said things like "God didn't make Satan the way he is. Satan chose to be who he is." That's not even Biblical. Isaiah 54:16-"See, it is I who created the blacksmith who fans the coals into flame and forges a weapon fit for its work. And it is I who have created the destroyer to work havoc;"

Romans 9:16-18-"It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth." Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden."

Romans 9:22-"What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath--prepared for destruction?"

So, you see, God does everything for His own glory, even create evil people who are destined to go to hell just so He can show His power. Matthew 25:31-46 also talks about pre-destiny. He created Satan to be evil, the Bible says so. Why would God create a destroyer for our world?

Like I said. Selfish. He lets people suffer, animals, children...all so He can rescue some and get glory and punish others in an eternal firey hell to show His power and what happens to those who dare disobey Him. Creation's suffering is for the Creator's glory, period. That's how He intended it. How can anyone on here say that isn't selfish??

And for those 'encouraging' me to do something to help others instead of being mad at God..first off, you don't have any clue how to talk to hurting people do you? You're just like Job's friends, they had good intentions but said all the wrong things to him..so are you. I do all I can to help others. This past Christmas I spent my last dime donating gifts to those in need. I help, I pray, I sacrifice, I encourage, whenever I can, so don't say ignorant things like that ok? The point is, I can work my fingers to the bone helping others, so could all of you, and it wouldn't even scratch the surface on helping those who need it.. I'm one person; the whole world is suffering. I can't help everyone, even though I desperately want to! It torments me so much to think that no matter what I do, it's impossible for me to help all those that need it..I think, I'm so small and God's so big, why doesn't He do anything to help?? And then I remember, He created it to be this way... what kind of God does that??? A selfish one..

I know there's a whole heck of a lot that I don't understand. I know God's ways are above our own. Don't get me wrong. I love God, with all my heart. But I'm so torn up inside, I don't know what I'm supposed to do..

Anyways thanks to those who took the time to not only read my ranting, but reply to me as well. Very nice of you.

 

[St_Worm2]

Let me get right to it; I haven't been a Christian for very long..God rescued me from a very bad situation but I won't go into details. Instead I'll just get right to the point: I'm absolutely furious at Him, and I can't seem to stop being angry no matter what I do..
How could a loving God allow such horrific things to happen to His little creatures all over the world? Please don't give me the whole 'it's not God, it's Satan' routine, I know that. I'm asking a broader question. Like why did God even create Satan in the first place? Why would God give us a free will to choose whether or not to sin, since He KNOWS we're gonna? I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything, but to me it just seems like selfishness. Like God lets horrible things happen to us just so He can rescue us and get glory for it...
What good comes of a little girl getting raped and abused her entire childhood? Say she gets older and finds God, and He heals her of all her emotional wounds. That's great and all, but who gets the praise for it? GOD. Ok, so he healed her. The point is why create a situation where healing is required anyway? The poor girl never should've had to go through that, even if she's able to recover..I don't know. Yes, life is short, eternity's forever, and I'm glad to be going to Heaven... but every time I hear about something terrible happening to someone, especially a child or an animal who are completely innocent, I shake my fist at God. Not satan, God. After all, God's in charge; Satan isn't almighty, he's a created being, who can only do what he's allowed to...

This is a huge stumbling point for me; I just can't bear the thought of the God I love not preventing absolutely nightmarish things from happening..when He could at the snap of His fingers.. it just seems so cruel..

This is eating up my peace, I'm just turning more and more bitter, I don't even read my Bible that much anymore, every time I do I end up getting angry..if anyone could give me any kind of spiritual guidance here I'd appreciate it.

Hey PeaceKeeper, I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned "free will". Free will necessarily requires "choice" right? If God stopped everyone from making bad choices and forced us to only choose what is good, do you still believe our wills would be free?

And as far as God not preventing nightmarish things from happening, who told you that He doesn't? He may not prevent everything that's bad from happening, but this world would literally be a living Hell if He didn't hold some of it back.

I also believe that having good and evil existing around us gives us all a little taste of what both Heaven and Hell will be like. Evil is also a sobering reminder that we are aliens and strangers, living here by God's design for the benefit of those who have not yet come to Christ. But this is certainly not our home!

There's much more that can be said, but I hope that helps a little bit anyway?

Yours and His,
David
p.s. - WELCOME To CF ..

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Hi there,

All I can say is do not neglect to seek God for the healing of others. You will be no good to anyone if you get angry at God, but if you work with him you can be another agent for good, and healing. Don't let your wound become so great that you an not able to help others. Use the motivation you have to see good, to do good to others. Let your love overflow.

 

[Tim Lauw]

God is not a robot. He is love, He give us a free will so we can trully know and feel His love. Of course He can do anything, if He force us to love Him, we can not feel true love then..

 

[Bear.Fr00t]

The world is a rotten place. Our only hope is in Jesus who will judge the world righteously and make the world right again.

 

[If Not For Grace]

God rescued me from a very bad situation

Remember that!

Do you have/want children? What if you have em & they don't do everything you want em to, or become what you hoped for? What if they stray from the plan?
Even if they do you will still love em & there will be rewards for having had em.


When I was little My Granddad smoked. My Mom/Dad did not, but I took up the habit, Dad said "you will not smoke in my house & when I catch you smoking I will take away the cigarettes & throw em away, so you will just be wasting money" He
also told me He would issue sanctions to enourage me to quit, because He did not want me to suffer (Grand Dad died of emphysema, begging for a cigarette on his deathbed) like Grand Dad had. He said he was doing it because He loved ME.

Wish this story had a happy ending, but it don't! I went right own smoking cause
I was not suffering (nor did I see Grand Dad suffer till YEARS later). Then I became addicted, (STILL AM)-I suffer now & struggle over and over w/quitting-STill smoking.
Did Dad Stiop loving me, No, Should he not have had me no! Do I love Dad-you bet!
Will I ever quit? I don't know. (But I sure wish I had never started it) But I know who's responsible for my smoking, & it's ME, not Grand Dad, Not Satan & it's certainally not Dad. I have no one to be angry w/but myself--& I'm not even mad at me...It's just a regret--but there's no sense in me getting mad at Dad because I chose to smoke, or because other people Dad loved chose to.

PS-I'm in my 50's Dad's in his 80's and I'm still not allowed to smoke in his Presence, & I try to see him everyday-now that I have the means to do so, (there was a time I didn't/couldn't-now I know our time together is precious--but that's another story for another time) the point is

What good is it to have someone love you that you make do it-in fact-the idea of that does not make sense. Making someone love you can't be done (cause it's not love IF it's mandated). Love is a decision followed by committment. Without a choice there is NO love-so there had to be a choice.

Sometimes the answer is not what you want to hear, but that fact never changes Truth. Be Angry, Be Happy. Which is more desirable?

Growth is a process-the acorn does not become the Oak overnight.

Prayers.

 

[LWB]

All these bad things that make you angry; they aren't happening to us: they're happening to God. (Matthew 25:40).

From the beginning of history up until a hundred and fifty years ago, all the people that ever lived and suffered, they are now asleep. Their struggle is over. They were all like the lilies of the field, here one instant, and gone the next. But God who lives forever and ever and sees every moment as a present reality, there is no luxury of sleep for him. Yet he endures this agony so that we might have a short taste of life, whether it be good or bad. And let's be fair; it isn't all bad.

So you want to complain to God about suffering? He is the King of suffering. But like the agony a mother goes through to bring her child into the world, God must conclude it is worthwhile.

 

[Lee52]

peacekeeper208,
I was a police officer for 22 years. Prior to that I was a Marine in combat in Vietnam. I have picked up the pieces of little girls and little girls turned into grown women in the situations you describe. I have seen the utter chaos of the world we live in many times over.

It is not quite as easy as God and Satan. Because God created us with free will, we have choices. That some of us choose evil is indeed disgusting, and, there are evil people out there. Pedophiles are evil, selfish people. They are the most selfish of all people I have ever encountered. They are not necessarily the most evil, but close enough.

Jesus was very clear about what it will be like for pedophiles in Hell after their death on this earth. (Think millstone around one's neck......and never ending drowning).

Our salvation, paid for by Jesus on the cross as substitute in our place, is a choice. It sits there a free gift of grace awaiting our arrival and acceptance of it. Contrary to what some teach and believe, it is a choice we make, just like every other choice we make on earth. If there was no free will, no choice, there would be no need for salvation in Christ Jesus. If there was no evil, there would be no need for the wonderful goodness of God.

I will not argue the fairness of how God made the universe. It is what it is. God is God and He wants us to want a relationship with Him. That is how He originally created things. That Satan was an angel of light of the morning and decided to be like God and was jealous of God and wanted to replace God is again, something that I will not argue the fairness of. It is what it is.

There are just some things in life that we must surrender to God as being a higher being, with higher knowledge, understanding, and purpose than we, His creation have. If we did not have tials and tribulations in this life, why would we even consider turning to God?

I see your pain in your words. Surrender that pain to God. Your anger is another thing that once you have shouted at God, expressed your anger at Him, surrender it to Him. He is a very big, very loving, very forgiving God. He can handle it. Get it all out and do not let today's sun set on it. If you do not get it out, it hurts you more than anyone, or anything else. Satan wants you to hang onto that anger. God wants you to surrender it to Him.

Lee

 

[peacekeeper208]

Thank you everyone for your answers. I can see everyone has their own ideas as to why there's suffering, the point is we don't know, not fully..just in bits and pieces. Guess that's why we're human.. God may feel our pain, but then again He knows everything just as He feels everything..He knows every solution to every problem and has the power to change it; when the innocent suffer they for the most part have no clue what's going on and have zero power to defend themselves.. I have to be honest and conclude that while these answers made me think, I realized that my anger at God isn't something that I can be reasoned out of. It's pain; I wasn't talked into it, I can't be talked out. It's a heart problem, I think the only thing that can heal me is my relationship with God...kinda ironic..

Anyway, thanks again everyone. It's great to know there are people out there who care.

-Lee, I want to especially thank you. Your answer was very gentle and wise..you must be a wonderful person. Thanks for the support.

Hope I'm able to surrender my anger to God..

 

[razeontherock]

The point is why create a situation where healing is required anyway?

if anyone could give me any kind of spiritual guidance here I'd appreciate it.

Hi, and welcome to CF While I spent my years shaking my fist at G-d, it is not my Spiritual guidance you need, but King David's. But to find it you'll have to humble yourself before G-d's Word, read it with the realization it IS Him speaking to you - and start with Psalm 1. You will experience the Lord Himself being David's "wonderful Counsellor," and you will find MANY passages that serve as the PERFECT prayer for you.

Pray those

May He make His face shine upon you as you sit at the Master's feet ...

 

[dab11999]

God didn't make Satan the way he is. Satan chose to be who he is.
God loves us and allows us to have what we want. The world is the way it is because of the choices we made. God is angry with us for what we have done to his world. Who's anger is most righteous, yours or his?
Satan rebelled against the Father because he gave the world to the likes of us. He may have a point, but rebelling against the Father is not the answer.
The angels helped him create the world, it was their masterpiece. They are not happy with what we have done with it either. That is why it is right for them to pour out his judgment against us.
Instead of being angry about what the world has become, ask for forgiveness instead. And start helping others in order to try and make the world a better place. Be part of the solution.

 

[meep18]

I probably have a controversial opinion on this.
I think suffering can be a very very good thing.
In fact, I'd rather suffer much than have many good things in life.
Jesus himself was the Man of Sorrows.
"Now if we are children, then we are heirs--heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory." Romans 8:17
"However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name."
"Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin." (1 Peter 4:1)
"To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps." (1 Peter 2:21)
"But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed." (1 Peter 2:13)
"And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose." (Romans 8:28)
"All things that come from people are placed in our lives by God." (Basilea Schlink, You Will Never Be the Same)
So basically, I think suffering is purifying. It cleanses the heart of idolatries and pride so we can learn to rely more on Christ when we suffer.
So I think all suffering can be used for the good of the sufferer. I was raped about half a year ago and I think I can honestly say I feel glad the incident happened. I think it was a great catalyst for my spiritual growth and ended up helping me in the long run.
If you're mad at God, why not tell him about it? It's not like it'll shock him.
If you ever need a Christian friend to talk with, feel free to PM me.

 

[oi_antz]

Hey, don't want to get too far into this discussion, but to point out what no-one seems to have pointed out yet, that you can't blame God OR Satan for the way they are or what people choose to do. You can only blame the humans who decide they would rather inflict the suffering upon another for some reason, whatever the reason may be. This happened in the garden of Eden and that was when the humans first failed to do the right thing, but ever since then our world has been plagued with sin because humans now being born separated from Godliness by nature, not all of them choose to pursue Godliness. IF however everyone made a conscious decision to always do good to one another, then there would be no suffering. So you are definitely blaming the wrong people by blaming God and Satan for the decisions humans have made, and remember the circle of influence, you can't change others, you can only change yourself and you can only be either a positive or negative influence on the people who notice you.

 

[Phaedron777]

To find answers, it may help to have a deeper understanding of God, creation, and the Garden of Eden.

First off, if you paint something, your painting power then becomes limited by what you paint. You run out of canvas and the picture is complete. You can paint over it, but that doesn't change the paint that was originally there. If you build something, you start with a foundation and you can't change that foundation without taring up the floor and everything else.

Now let us understand that God is unlimited within himself, but has created some intricate systems of reality we call physics and the universe. God must therefore operate within the loopholes he created, else he would have to tare things apart too. This limiting of God's omnipotence can be found in Sripture. In the parable of the wheat and the tares we find that the tares CANNOT be removed or else the wheat would be removed with them. Why this is so, is something that only God understands.

If God could have saved us in any other way would he have become Flesh and died on the Cross? Why not just forgive us? This shows the actions of a loving God who cannot save us in any other way. It is not that God is not onnipotent, but that our sin cuts us off from him, and the systems he has created are set in stone, just as a builder is unlimited in his potential to build things, but cannot change a problem that occurs in the foundation without taring down the whole house.

Now let us understand that both the angels and mankind were created with freewill. God does not violate our freedom. While it was not intended for man to fall, we are nevertheless allowed to get away with our sins and what we inflict on others. If God did punish sinners immediately he would have to punish ALL sinners immediately and then who would have a chance to repent?

God works by rewarding those who suffer in this world in the next one. Every saved person is entitled to eternal life, but what happens in this life determines one's station and rewards and eternal office in the next life. This includes the crowns and there are various scriptures to back up this point of view. We know that a person can even break the commandments and teach others to do so and be considered the least in the kingdom of heaven. We also know that those who would willing give up everything and serve will be among the greatest in heaven. What Jesus really does is completely turn the tables on the fortunes and misfortunes in the world.

Therefore, in Christianity, there is a sense of masochism involved. We know that there is going to be persecution, trials, and tribulations, and that we will need to deny ourselves daily, give up walking after the flesh, and make Jesus the lord of our lives. There is great reward in following him and great punishment in denying him.

Because God will generally allow people to get away with things, there is good cause to fear him. The closer one becomes to God the more likely there is a chance he will somehow intervene to help us.

Part of how God works is by the mysterious loosening and haredening of peoples hearts. I was once caught with a whole pound of marijuana wrapped up for sale, I was not a minor, and the judge actually let me off scott free. I seriously do not think this could have happened without a loving God who opened his heart that day. I have sense stopped using drugs.

UNDERSTANDING GOD

Moses refers to God as "I AM that I AM"
In the new testament he is reffered to as "Love" and "an all consuming Fire."
The human body is his temple.

We are now going to explore a more esoteric understanding of God. God is love, and those who sin are cut off from him. Love is the one thing you can never have enough of, everything else out of moderation leads to destruction. Hate is not opposite of love, it is merely devoid of love and filled with selfishness and anger. There is no opposite to "Love" but there is existence and non-existence. Without love, even existence can be taken out of moderation, hence death relieves us of suffering.

LOVE AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL

Now we can understand what we did in the garden of Eden. The forbidden knowledge of good and evil is subjective. Each person has their own idea of Good and everything else in evil. In reality there just is. When we have love there are positive and negatives in life, but they are unified in a way that simply is. Without love to create compromise the result is that we commit the evil of killing each other over what we consider to be good and lawful. The mistake of this hardening of hearts echos throughout all of time.

Just as death came through Adam's sin of disobedience to God, who is Love, so did redemption come from Jesus, whose commandment is Love and through him we become perfected in Love. This is conclusive proof that what happened in Eden was a forsaking of Love. The unfoldment of history after that also shows a world that is largely devoid of love. We have a form of goodness we like to call Love, but we fail to understand what Love really is.

Love is what binds the positive and negative polarities of life, and flesh that was originally immortal and did not know good and evil (duality) was not subjected to the natural laws. The equal and opposite reaction to creation is death. God did not punish us with death, it was simply the result of our actions. When we turn the other cheek we accept another persons negativity, and when they stop they accept the positive. Thus love has won. If we retaliate then eventually someone dies. Love is therefore the embracing and conjoining of positive and negative, to which end good and evil are abandoned. Christ being positive took on our negative sins, and we being dead in negative sins become positive through his love.

BEING ANGRY AT GOD

Ultimately makes things get worse for you. It makes you his enemy and is a form of unbelief. I was very angry at God once and the very next day I woke up with an infected middle finger. Yes, God DOES have a sense of humor, but even this chastisement and punishment to one of his sons is a beloved form of fellowship to be treasured.

Make no mistake, God has done everything for us that he can within the framework of his creation, which does allow for a wide variety of actions. Through Jesus Christ we are offered undeserved grace and rewards beyond our comprehension. It's like someone suddenly gave you a gazillion dollars, you would never be able to repay them on your own terms, all you can do is accept his terms.

 

[peacekeeper208]

I really do appreciate all of you guys' answers, and the thought put into them. I dunno what it's going to take for me to draw near to God again, but thanks anyway for taking the time to answer me.

 

[Godsproperty777]

Peacekeeper208

None of us truly have an absolute answer as to why ugly things are allowed to happen. This is what I know....without G-d, the ugly things are all we would ever have....

But with G-d, there is Hope, even when submerged in darkness my heart still looks for His light...that's hope.

Even as you struggle to understand a infinite mind such as G-d's, your heart still seeks Him.

I won't even pretend to have the right scriptural verse that might set all of this straight in your mind, because I don't.

All I do know is that even in the midst of this chaotic world, I "Trust" G-d. In life or in death, in suffering or in joy, I trust Him...He is all I have and all my heart seeks is the day I can finally lay my head on His feet...and know I am finally home.

 

[oi_antz]

I really do appreciate all of you guys' answers, and the thought put into them. I dunno what it's going to take for me to draw near to God again, but thanks anyway for taking the time to answer me.

Hey you know that everyone goes through times when they don't feel so close to God, it's completely natural. As long as you belong to God and live according to how He has told you (repenting of sin, speaking truthfully about Him), then all you can do is remember the footprints in the sand poem and look for any indications that Jesus want's you to repent, because if you refuse to obey what God says, your sin will be pushing Him away. I see this with Christians who are carrying sin, they have actually forfeited The Holy Spirit in favour of their sin (I don't tell them this though, because it is Jesus' role to be their shepherd), and I'm not saying this has happened to you because I don't even know you, but hopefully you'll find the information you need from someone around here that can help you get close to God again.

 

[sterken7983]

Let me get right to it; I haven't been a Christian for very long..I know there's a whole heck of a lot that I don't understand. I know God's ways are above our own. Don't get me wrong. I love God, with all my heart. But I'm so torn up inside, I don't know what I'm supposed to do..

Anyways thanks to those who took the time to not only read my ranting, but reply to me as well. Very nice of you.

I was just going to go to bed when I seen your post and I have ot answer.

Please hear my words as the words of a quiet, gentle brother.

I feel everything you feel MINUS the anger toward God. But it wasn't always that way. And God got me past it.

Please hear me so that you can move past it also.

The devil is working on you, my brother. He is working on you very hard and very strong. He is putting this hate into your heart and your heart is believing it.

Why is he doing this?

Because you are VERY CLOSE to figuring out why you do not have to be angry with God anymore. And why you will soon start being angry with him. And his sin, which is all around you, in this world, creating all this hell which the Lord suffers, even for a short time.

The REASON the Lord is done ALL THIS is not because He is pompous and selfish. That is what the devil says. He has done all this and allowed all this suffering for one purpose: to show His children that He is real and that He loves them.

Now, stay with me on this.

Why would He create Lucifer, allow evil, death, suffering all these UNSPEAKABLE things to happen? Because it is the only way He could get any of us to CHOOSE to love Him.

You see, the part that you are missing, the KEY which you are seeking to answer why a JUST and PERFECT GOD is that He made all these things so that He Himself would suffer ALL OF THEM. He suffered every rape, every murder, every genocide, every death, every evil deed, ALL OF THEM at ONE TIME upon a cross. Upon brutal beatings from the Romans. Upon total torture and annhialation greater than any man, woman or child has ever suffered or will ever suffer.

Why?

So that He could show His people that He would take all the suffering also, that He is NOT an evil God who just kills and hurts people simply because He can but that He is a HUMBLE God who CHOSE to sacrifice His ONLY SON to suffer WORSE than any human ever did. So that they could be saved. So that, the humans, seeing this terribly powerful act of selfless love through willing sacrifice BY THEIR CREATOR would say, ya know what, I want to love that guy the way He loved me and I am now glad that I can suffer through this horrible world aAND BE GLAD because I have a God who didn't simply torment me for fun but took the GREATEST torment for me so that I wouldn't HAVE TO!

If you think the suffering of this world is terrible, friend, your mind would BREAK if you could contemplate the suffering in eternity.

He created all this evil so that He could destroy it and win the love of His children. So that His children would FREELY choose to love Him. Because He would have been very lonely if He would have simply made little robots that loved Him just because He made them that way.

It is all about Him. It's because He did not want to be alone. He wanted a family. So Him and His Son decided to make a family that was pure and perfect AND had free will to CHOOSE to love their Father. And this was the only way it could be done. That may make you angry but are you God? You know the book of Job: were you there when He hung the stars? Did you tell Him how to design DNA? Did you counsel Him on which planet and which SOLAR SYSTEM He should place His creation, mankind? If so, why didn't you tell Him to NOT create evil?

And if you were not there and were simply born of a womb into a terrifying world which you do not understand, is it wiser to be angry with Him or to humble yourself before Him?

I acknowledge your anger for I have known it myself. Seek His counsel and He will teach you.

It was the only way. It was the best way. Even Jesus Himself said, Father, if there is any other way We can do this, let's find another way.

But Jesus then did what you are not doing:

He said, but let it be your will, Father, and not Mine own.

Jesus wasn't naive. He knew what was coming. But He submitted to the Father with COMPLETE TRUST! You are lacking this and so you are angry.

It will be forgiven you but you must repent and ask Jesus to forgive your anger and to send you the Holy Spirit's wisdom so that you may understand.

God was lonely. He wanted to be loved. Just like you wanted to be loved. So He created a design that is so Glorious that we can not EVER hope to even know one iota of it's Greatness. We fall before the Lord at the Wonder of His great design. For it is a desing of love. Of humility. Of servitude. Of sacrifice.

I pray for you, brother, for the Kingdom of God is at hand. Allow Him to fill you with peace and reveal His Design unto you.

 

[Jazer]

I know there's a whole heck of a lot that I don't understand.

I remember a sermon once about how God is not going to take the blame for the mess that man and the devil has made out of things. Why does God allow sin? Because He is patient and long suffering, not wanting any to perish but for all to come to a saving knowledge of the truth. The day will come when it will be to late. But today is the day and now is the time for salvation. Jesus said you have to wait to seperate the wheat from the tears. Otherwise some of the wheat maybe lost.

 

[sterken7983]

Just wanted to add: PLEASE read my above post as gentle words of a loving brother who has felt the same pain you are feeling.

It feels like your insides are tearing apart, like you can't breathe and everything is just BLACK.

I have been there so please do not hear me being ROUGH or insensitive: I am using the words I did to get your attention so that you do not slide down any further because I have been further and I PRAY you do not go any further for it is not good. Not good.

Much love to you and Rejoice! For your Heavenly Father loves you PERFECTLY!