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No. That standard exists because we're afforded the same basic rights as humans. It doesn't magically change depending upon a particular human's occupation, status, wealth, gender, race, beliefs, politics, or any other metrics...
Theoretically...but in practice it does change. When bail is routinely set higher than an accused person can afford, and it's not based on flight risk or risk to the community, then those rights are abrogated magically based on wealth.

Just out of curiosity though....what standards would you like to go by? Try and think really hard about it before you answer....
It is not a basic human right to be a Supreme Court judge for the rest of one's life, even for a pedigreed being such as Kavinaugh.
 
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The problem with all of this is.... Trump isn't going anywhere. And this entire argument about Kavanaugh is moot. I believe the aggressive attacks on Trump, and Kavanaugh are nothing more than the worlds attempt to thwart God.

I began researching this line of thought in 2015, and began posting about it Nov 9th 2016.

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It was still just a question or a theory to me until I recently found out Israel began making a half shekel with both Trump's and Cyrus's likenesses on the front, and the 3rd temple on the back. In or around this April. April 19th was the 70th anniversary of Israel. Jeremiah 29:10 says: “For thus saith the Lord, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place.”

“Normally this is understood as speaking about the return from the Babylonian Exile, which lasted 70 years,” Rabbi Weiss said. “But it may be this was also a hint that we would return to the Temple 70 years after the establishment of Israel.
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The previous project involving the commemorative Trump-Cyrus coin was so successful the organizers of the new effort are optimistic about an international effort to plan and fund the rebuilding of the Temple, a project fraught with controversy even within Israel, because of the Islamic presence of the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock – two shrines atop the Temple Mount.
Read more at New coin minted to fund building Jerusalem Temple - WND

“In the context of the coin, we are expressing gratitude for President Trump’s bold decision to transfer the American Embassy to Jerusalem thereby recognizing King David’s capital and the site of Solomon’s Temple as the true capital of Israel,”
Read more at New coin minted to fund building Jerusalem Temple - WND

This temple will be the 3rd temple. I do not know for a fact that Kavanaugh will be confirmed. But I believe he will be, and will be used to help bring God back into America. A time of prosperity. That is just a hunch, but Trump is going nowhere. You're banging heads with God on that one.

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Theoretically...but in practice it does change. When bail is routinely set higher than an accused person can afford, and it's not based on flight risk or risk to the community, then those rights are abrogated magically based on wealth.

I’m unaware of the practice of judges determining how much a person can afford, and then setting the bond higher than what the suspect can afford, on the basis of the suspect couldn’t afford the bond.

Just because a suspect cannot pay a bond doesn’t lead to the conclusion rights were abrogated based on wealth. There isn’t a right to a bond one can afford to post.
 
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What higher standard are you referencing?

The standard of a glorified job interview, which is basically all this is.

If "Probably not a rapist" is on the resume, I'm tempted to say, "Yeah, thank you for your application, but we're going in a different direction. Next!"
 
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The problem with all of this is.... Trump isn't going anywhere. And this entire argument about Kavanaugh is moot. I believe the aggressive attacks on Trump, and Kavanaugh are nothing more than the worlds attempt to thwart God.


This isn't about Donald, and it certainly isn't about God. Those two have little common ground with one another, let alone Kavanaugh.
 
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The standard of a glorified job interview, which is basically all this is.

If "Probably not a rapist" is on the resume, I'm tempted to say, "Yeah, thank you for your application, but we're going in a different direction. Next!"

Except, the phrase "probably not a rapist" is inapplicable to Kavanaugh. At this moment, there is no evidence Kavanaugh is a rapist. There is no evidence Kavanaugh supporting a de minimis belief Kavanaugh is a rapist. None. But keep invoking your false burdens, your inapplicable burdens, false suggestions Kavanaugh is a rapist.

Since your burden is not applicable to Kavanaugh, then your burden is not an impediment to his progression in the process.
 
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The standard of a glorified job interview, which is basically all this is.

If "Probably not a rapist" is on the resume, I'm tempted to say, "Yeah, thank you for your application, but we're going in a different direction. Next!"
They're looking for a man who shapes your nations fate for the next few decades, not something important like a pastor.
 
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Except, the phrase "probably not a rapist" is inapplicable to Kavanaugh. At this moment, there is no evidence Kavanaugh is a rapist. There is no evidence Kavanaugh supporting a de minimis belief Kavanaugh is a rapist. None. But keep invoking your false burdens, your inapplicable burdens, false suggestions Kavanaugh is a rapist.

Since your burden is not applicable to Kavanaugh, then your burden is not an impediment to his progression in the process.

Sorry, didn't mean to trigger anyone. Surely there are federal judges out there without multiple sexual abuse accusations?

Or are they all too liberal?

Seriously, what does it take to get the GOP to find a better person for the job?
 
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Sorry, didn't mean to trigger anyone. Surely there are federal judges out there without multiple sexual abuse accusations?

Or are they all too liberal?

Seriously, what does it take to get the GOP to find a better person for the job?

So, the standard is someone without any accusations?
 
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And yet it "magically" changes as soon as one goes from criminal to civil court, for example.

Yet it doesn't change from person to person.

Well, since unlike far too many of the GOP, I think it actually does make a difference whether he did it or not, and I would like to believe that we should do better than "probably not a rapist" when it comes to confirming SCOTUS judges, I think a preponderance of the evidence should be the standard. Who do we believe more?

If there wasn't a bias towards the female accusers in these cases...you might have a point.

Personally, I believe Dr. Ford. I don't believe Kavanaugh. His hysterics were a little to theatrical; he hit on too many of the GOP's favorite talking points.

I think the fact that one of her friends, who she claims was there, has no recollection of the event or even meeting Kavanaugh supports the idea that she's remembering this wrong.
 
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So, the standard is someone without any accusations?

That would be the ideal, but failing that, less than three would be acceptable.

After all, Thomas only had one accuser (for sexual harassment, not even sexual assault) and he managed to squeak by... following an FBI investigation, of course.
 
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Yet it doesn't change from person to person.

Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!

Sorry, you were saying?

If there wasn't a bias towards the female accusers in these cases...you might have a point.

It's odd, isn't it? We believe women were raped as long as they don't know who did it.

I think the fact that one of her friends, who she claims was there, has no recollection of the event or even meeting Kavanaugh supports the idea that she's remembering this wrong.

Which is a possibility that Kavanaugh's defenders have no interest in considering. Nope, she is a political pawn of the evil, evil Democrats... ask anyone.

Meanwhile, what about the other two?
 
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Theoretically...but in practice it does change. When bail is routinely set higher than an accused person can afford, and it's not based on flight risk or risk to the community, then those rights are abrogated magically based on wealth.

You're saying that people unable to post bail aren't presumed innocent when they go to trial?

Or....?

It is not a basic human right to be a Supreme Court judge for the rest of one's life, even for a pedigreed being such as Kavinaugh.

Of course not...but as he is being accused of a crime, he should at least be afforded the same rights as a criminal...right?
 
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Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!

Sorry, you were saying?

Well now I'm saying....what does that have to do with anything?

It's odd, isn't it? We believe women were raped as long as they don't know who did it.

We??? I think you meant to say "I believe women who accuse men of rape... regardless of how little evidence they may have."

Which is a possibility that Kavanaugh's defenders have no interest in considering.

I'm not sure why you think that...I've heard several conservatives say they believe she was assaulted, just not by BK.

, she is a political pawn of the evil, evil Democrats... ask anyone.

She can be both.
Meanwhile, what about the other two?

What about them? Do you think they have credible stories?
 
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