And the Winner is...Trump

[Yarddog]

2017 Lie of the Year: Russian election action is a hoax

A mountain of evidence points to a single fact: Russia meddled in the U.S. presidential election of 2016.

In both classified and public reports, U.S. intelligence agencies have said Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered actions to interfere with the election. Those actions included the cyber-theft of private data, the placement of propaganda against particular candidates, and an overall effort to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process.

 

[MoonlessNight]

>2017
>Still believing Politifact.
>In the current year.

 

[High Fidelity]

Doesn't look like just the U.S., but also with Britain and their vote to leave the EU.

 

[Zatek]

Democrats lost because they got caught. That's what happens when you're corrupt, you make lots of enemies and people want to expose you. Maybe it was Russia, maybe it was someone else, who knows. DNC didn't want their servers examined so they can't blame anyone else for lack of not knowing.

Even if everything the media claims is true, there is still no crime. No votes were tampered with. The only thing that happened is we learned the truth about the DNC rigging their own primary. "Collusion" is not a legal term and there is no such crime. If the DNC didn't want to get "hacked" then they should no respond to phishing emails like morons, because that's what happened, Podesta gave his password to the hacker when he was tricked by a phishing email.

 

[RadiantGrace]

Democrats lost because they got caught. That's what happens when you're corrupt, you make lots of enemies and people want to expose you. Maybe it was Russia, maybe it was someone else, who knows. DNC didn't want their servers examined so they can't blame anyone else for lack of not knowing.

Even if everything the media claims is true, there is still no crime. No votes were tampered with. The only thing that happened is we learned the truth about the DNC rigging their own primary. "Collusion" is not a legal term and there is no such crime. If the DNC didn't want to get "hacked" then they should no respond to phishing emails like morons, because that's what happened, Podesta gave his password to the hacker when he was tricked by a phishing email.

You sound like the type of person that understand rich people ripping the country off is good for the US. Congress is nothing like the Sejm. Hail Trump!!!

 

[Zatek]

You sound like the type of person that understand rich people ripping the country off is good for the US. Congress is nothing like the Sejm. Hail Trump!!!

You sound like the type of person that has no arguments so you just make emotional and ad-hominem attacks.

 

[AvilaSurfer]

Still zero proof.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

Democrats lost because they got caught. That's what happens when you're corrupt, you make lots of enemies and people want to expose you. Maybe it was Russia, maybe it was someone else, who knows. DNC didn't want their servers examined so they can't blame anyone else for lack of not knowing.
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You sound like the type of person that has no arguments so you just make emotional and ad-hominem attacks.

Irony.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Russia has just as much right to speak its mind on world affairs as the US does...

 

[compassion 4 humanity]

2017 Lie of the Year: Russian election action is a hoax

A mountain of evidence points to a single fact: Russia meddled in the U.S. presidential election of 2016.

In both classified and public reports, U.S. intelligence agencies have said Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered actions to interfere with the election. Those actions included the cyber-theft of private data, the placement of propaganda against particular candidates, and an overall effort to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process.

A lot of conservatives were unhappy with Obama becoming president and made up the bogus claim that he was born in Kenya and therefore couldn't be president. They were being a bunch of crybabies and sore losers. It's no different with liberals who assert that Russia is so incredibly powerful and have such astute propagandists that they could get Trump elected and "steal" the election from Hillary. Liberals who think Russia wields God-like power over American society to the extent that they can determine a US election need to get over their loss and quit being such crybabies and sore losers.

 

[Yarddog]

A lot of conservatives were unhappy with Obama becoming president and made up the bogus claim that he was born in Kenya and therefore couldn't be president. They were being a bunch of crybabies and sore losers. It's no different with liberals who assert that Russia is so incredibly powerful and have such astute propagandists that they could get Trump elected and "steal" the election from Hillary. Liberals who think Russia wields God-like power over American society to the extent that they can determine a US election need to get over their loss and quit being such crybabies and sore losers.

Every government agency dealing with intelligence and law enforcement all agree that Russia meddled in the election to a great extent. So Trump supporters should stop being cry babies and grow up. (Note) I am not saying Conservatives because many of those agree with the intelligence.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

"We have to admit that this Russian meddling in this election really did go beyond the pale.

There are somewhere between 12 to 20 million illegal Russian immigrants in the country. The Russians have a score of consulates supporting them. The Russian government has actually paid for a cell phone app to help these Russian illegals if they are picked up by ICE. Furthermore, Russia has changed its citizenship law. It’s openly calling on its legal immigrants here to be a Fifth Column acting in Russia’s interest. They can be both Russian citizens and American citizens. A Russian president, a few years ago, spoke to them and said, “You’re Russians who live the in US.”

Oh, wait a minute. I got that wrong.

It’s not Russia."

-Peter Brimelow

 

[compassion 4 humanity]

Every government agency dealing with intelligence and law enforcement all agree that Russia meddled in the election to a great extent.

Your claim isn't credible. You're implying that Russia wields God-like power over American society to the extent of being able to determine the outcome of a US presidential election.

I voted for Trump, even though I didn't agree with some of his ideas such as his immigration views. There weren't any Russians who influenced my decision or the decision of everyone else who voted for Trump, and I find it absurd that anyone would believe otherwise.

So Trump supporters should stop being cry babies and grow up.

Quit projecting.

 

[Yarddog]

Your claim isn't credible. You're implying that Russia wields God-like power over American society to the extent of being able to determine the outcome of a US presidential election.

LOL, where do people come up with such silly replies? Hey, if you don't want to accept the facts...

God bless

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

Your claim isn't credible. You're implying that Russia wields God-like power over American society to the extent of being able to determine the outcome of a US presidential election.

Very nice strawman. Bigger than big. Yuge even!

He said:

Every government agency dealing with intelligence and law enforcement all agree that Russia meddled in the election to a great extent.

This is a fact.

 

[Zatek]

Every government agency dealing with intelligence and law enforcement all agree that Russia meddled in the election to a great extent. So Trump supporters should stop being cry babies and grow up. (Note) I am not saying Conservatives because many of those agree with the intelligence.

All the major countries "meddle" in each others elections. That's such an extremely vague statement anyway. Whether it was Russia or someone else, the only thing that happened is some true things about Hillary and the DNC were made public because Podesta fell for a phishing scam. Trump didn't need to be involved, Hillary and the DNC already had more than enough enemies who wanted to take them down regardless of who the GOP candidate was.

I would agree that running Phishing scam is a crime, but if the only reason you're a target for phishing scams in the first place is because you're corrupt and people want to expose or blackmail you, then you're kinda out of luck, sorry. It's like if a gang member murders someone and now friends of that person are trying to assassinate him. He can't go to the police because the police are going to figure out that people are after him because he's a murderer. Hillary and her DNC cronies have some refuge behind the mainstream media and Obama holdovers, but the American people don't have any sympathy that she lost because of her own corrupt criminal behavior.

 

[compassion 4 humanity]

Very nice strawman. Bigger than big. Yuge even!

He said:



This is a fact.

Why do you always have to be so annoying?

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

Why do you always have to be so annoying?

It is not me. It is reality you find annoying. Perhaps you should watch FOX News, they do not let reality interfere with their shows.

 

[compassion 4 humanity]

It is not me. It is reality you find annoying. Perhaps you should watch FOX News, they do not let reality interfere with their shows.

Hey, here is a new English word for your vocabulary: provocative

The definition: causing annoyance, anger, or another strong reaction, especially deliberately.

Used in a sentence: Quit being so provocative towards other members of ChristianForums.

 

[Calminian]

LOL, where do people come up with such silly replies? Hey, if you don't want to accept the facts...

God bless

Hmmm. Some major credibility problems developing for you. Had you admitted in your OP that the Russians have always meddled in US elections for a very long time, and this year was no exception, you'd have some credibility. If you added that Obama has meddled in other country's elections (like Israel's), you'd also have more credibility. Or, if you had happened to mention that there's actual evidence for Hillary and Obama colluding with Russia, unlike Trump, then you'd really have credibility.

But that this point, nada.