AND HOW ARE WE SAVED ?

[Dan Perez]

Acts 16:31 reads , And // DE , is a CONJUNCTION

THEY SAID // EIPON , is a verb in the Aorist tense , Active Voice , in the Indicative Mood and this Mood , means , you better believe it .

BELIEVE // PISTEVO , also in the Aorist tense , Active Voice , Imperative Mood , means it is a command , in the Singular

ON // EPI is a Preposition

THE // HO is a Definite Article , is pointing to the next Greek word .

LORD // KYRIOS , is in the Greek ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the Singular

JESUS // IESOUS , also in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the Singular

CHRIST // CHRISTOS , is also in the Accusative Case , in the Singular

AND // KAI , is a conjunction

THOU // SY , is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN , in the Nominative Case , meaning that he is the subject

SHALL BE SAVED // SOZO is a verb in the FUTURE TENSE , PASSIVE VOICE , meaning Christ will make it happen

AND // KAI , is a conjunction

THY // SOU , is a PERSONEL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN , in the Genitive Case , in the Singular

HOUSE // OIKOS , in the Nominative Case in the Singular .

# 1 Is it true , to just BELIEVE , to be SAVED and with your House ??

# 2 But what about Mark 16:16 , that says , He that believeth and is BAPTIZED shall be SAVED .

# 3 Do we discard Eph 2:8 , that says we are SAVED by Grace , and NOT // OV , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , means NEVER by

by Works EVERRRRRRRRR.

dan p

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Acts 16:31 reads , And // DE , is a CONJUNCTION

THEY SAID // EIPON , is a verb in the Aorist tense , Active Voice , in the Indicative Mood and this Mood , means , you better believe it .

BELIEVE // PISTEVO , also in the Aorist tense , Active Voice , Imperative Mood , means it is a command , in the Singular

ON // EPI is a Preposition

THE // HO is a Definite Article , is pointing to the next Greek word .

LORD // KYRIOS , is in the Greek ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the Singular

JESUS // IESOUS , also in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the Singular

CHRIST // CHRISTOS , is also in the Accusative Case , in the Singular

AND // KAI , is a conjunction

THOU // SY , is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN , in the Nominative Case , meaning that he is the subject

SHALL BE SAVED // SOZO is a verb in the FUTURE TENSE , PASSIVE VOICE , meaning Christ will make it happen

AND // KAI , is a conjunction

THY // SOU , is a PERSONEL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN , in the Genitive Case , in the Singular

HOUSE // OIKOS , in the Nominative Case in the Singular .

# 1 Is it true , to just BELIEVE , to be SAVED and with your House ??

# 2 But what about Mark 16:16 , that says , He that believeth and is BAPTIZED shall be SAVED .

# 3 Do we discard Eph 2:8 , that says we are SAVED by Grace , and NOT // OV , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , means NEVER by

by Works EVERRRRRRRRR.

dan p

JAMES 2:26 reads, "FOR // GAR, is a conjunction

AS // HOS, introduces a comparison

THE // HO, is a definite article, pointing to the next Greek word.

BODY // SOMA, is in the Nominative Case, in the Singular

WITHOUT // CHORIS, is a preposition, meaning apart from

THE // HO, is a definite article, again pointing to the next Greek word.

SPIRIT // PNEUMA, is also in the Nominative Case, in the Singular

IS DEAD // NEKROS, is a verb in the Present tense, Passive Voice, meaning it is lifeless.

SO // HOUTO, is a conjunction, indicating a conclusion

FAITH // PISTIS, is in the Nominative Case, in the Singular

WITHOUT // CHORIS, is a preposition, again meaning apart from

DEEDS // ERGON, in the Genitive Case, meaning works or actions

IS DEAD // NEKROS, once more a verb in the Present tense, Passive Voice, indicating it lacks life.

#1 Is it true that faith alone is enough, without any actions to show it?

#2 But what about Ephesians 2:10, which says we are created for good works?

#3 Do we ignore that faith must be alive and active to truly mean anything?

JFF

 

[Dan Perez]

JAMES 2:26 reads, "FOR // GAR, is a conjunction

AS // HOS, introduces a comparison

THE // HO, is a definite article, pointing to the next Greek word.

BODY // SOMA, is in the Nominative Case, in the Singular

WITHOUT // CHORIS, is a preposition, meaning apart from

THE // HO, is a definite article, again pointing to the next Greek word.

SPIRIT // PNEUMA, is also in the Nominative Case, in the Singular

IS DEAD // NEKROS, is a verb in the Present tense, Passive Voice, meaning it is lifeless.

SO // HOUTO, is a conjunction, indicating a conclusion

FAITH // PISTIS, is in the Nominative Case, in the Singular

WITHOUT // CHORIS, is a preposition, again meaning apart from

DEEDS // ERGON, in the Genitive Case, meaning works or actions

IS DEAD // NEKROS, once more a verb in the Present tense, Passive Voice, indicating it lacks life.

#1 Is it true that faith alone is enough, without any actions to show it?

#2 But what about Ephesians 2:10, which says we are created for good works?

#3 Do we ignore that faith must be alive and active to truly mean anything?

JFF

Hi JFF and I see what I wrote and I see # 1 , # 2 and # 3 , so where is your REPLY ??

dan p

 

[Dan Perez]

Hi JFF and I see what I wrote and I see # 1 , # 2 and # 3 , so where is your REPLY ??

dan p

Hi JFF and I see what I wrote and I see # 1 , # 2 and # 3 , so where is your REPLY ??

dan p

And to help me out , is what you , wrote from BIBLE HUB , and saying it is not bad !!

I use BLUE LETTER BIBLE as I got use to it !!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

Acts 16:31 reads , And // DE , is a CONJUNCTION

THEY SAID // EIPON , is a verb in the Aorist tense , Active Voice , in the Indicative Mood and this Mood , means , you better believe it .

BELIEVE // PISTEVO , also in the Aorist tense , Active Voice , Imperative Mood , means it is a command , in the Singular

ON // EPI is a Preposition

THE // HO is a Definite Article , is pointing to the next Greek word .

LORD // KYRIOS , is in the Greek ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the Singular

JESUS // IESOUS , also in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the Singular

CHRIST // CHRISTOS , is also in the Accusative Case , in the Singular

AND // KAI , is a conjunction

THOU // SY , is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN , in the Nominative Case , meaning that he is the subject

SHALL BE SAVED // SOZO is a verb in the FUTURE TENSE , PASSIVE VOICE , meaning Christ will make it happen

AND // KAI , is a conjunction

THY // SOU , is a PERSONEL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN , in the Genitive Case , in the Singular

HOUSE // OIKOS , in the Nominative Case in the Singular .

# 1 Is it true , to just BELIEVE , to be SAVED and with your House ??

# 2 But what about Mark 16:16 , that says , He that believeth and is BAPTIZED shall be SAVED .

# 3 Do we discard Eph 2:8 , that says we are SAVED by Grace , and NOT // OV , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , means NEVER by

by Works EVERRRRRRRRR.

dan p

If one truly believes, (1), they will do anything in their power to prove it; like repenting of sins, getting baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, being reborn of God's seed, and enduring faithfully until the end. (2)
The only works Paul ever wrote against were the works of the Law...(3)
Circumcision, dietary rules, tithing, temple worship, feast days, the priesthood, etc., will not save.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

And to help me out , is what you , wrote from BIBLE HUB , and saying it is not bad !!

I use BLUE LETTER BIBLE as I got use to it !!

dan p

yeah, I use it too sometimes but lately I discovered the new testament in Aramaic it makes scripture sometimes easier to understand.

here is the link in case you would be interested;

TheAramaicScriptures.com

The Holy Aramaic Scriptures: With a literal English translation and transliteration of The Eastern Peshitta New Testament Text, such as given in The Khabouris Codex.

www.thearamaicscriptures.com

cheers

 

[Dan Perez]

If one truly believes, (1), they will do anything in their power to prove it; like repenting of sins, getting baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, being reborn of God's seed, and enduring faithfully until the end. (2)
The only works Paul ever wrote against were the works of the Law...(3)
Circumcision, dietary rules, tithing, temple worship, feast days, the priesthood, etc., will not save.

And you then , do not believe in repenting , and baptism , do I have that right ?

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And you then , do not believe in repenting , and baptism , do I have that right ?

dan p

I don't know how you ended up thinking that.
Without the gift of repentance from sin, we would all still be sinners.
Without baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, we would all still be carrying the weight of a lifetime of wickedness.
And our old man would not be destroyed or a new creature raised with Christ to walk in newness of life.

 

[Dan Perez]

I don't know how you ended up thinking that.
Without the gift of repentance from sin, we would all still be sinners.
Without baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, we would all still be carrying the weight of a lifetime of wickedness.
And our old man would not be destroyed or a new creature raised with Christ to walk in newness of life.

I was just asking ?

Will please write where is says that we have to repent ??

I understand Rom 10:9-10 and Eph 2:8 ?

How was SAUL / Paul saved in Acts 9:3-6 ?

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

I was just asking ?
Will please write where is says that we have to repent ??

Sure...Acts 2:38..."Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
Luke 13:3..."I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."

I understand Rom 10:9-10 and Eph 2:8 ?

OK

How was SAUL / Paul saved in Acts 9:3-6 ?

His salvation will be determined on the day of judgement.
His conversion started at the visitation of the Lord on the road to Damascus, and was finalized when he was baptized in the name of the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins. (Acts 22:16)
Though no mention is made of his being given the gift of the Holy Ghost, that event would have certainly occurred after a real turn from sin and baptism, as Peter said it would in Acts 2:38.

 

[Dan Perez]

Sure...Acts 2:38..."Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
Luke 13:3..."I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."

OK

His salvation will be determined on the day of judgement.
His conversion started at the visitation of the Lord on the road to Damascus, and was finalized when he was baptized in the name of the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins. (Acts 22:16)
Though no mention is made of his being given the gift of the Holy Ghost, that event would have certainly occurred after a real turn from sin and baptism, as Peter said it would in Acts 2:38.

In 1 Cor 12:3 says different ,

Therefore , I make known to you that NO ONE speaking by God's Spirit says Jesus is accursed and NO ONE is ABLE to say Lord Jesus EXCEPT by the Holy Spirit

That is what Saul // Paul said in Acts 9:6 and trembling and terrified , he said , LORD // KYRIOS , meaning Master what do you

wish me to do !!

And in Acts 22:16 was SAUL // PAUL BAPTIZED or was Saul // Paul WATER // HUDOR , BPTIZED ??

The Greek WATER // HUDOR is NOT in the Greek text

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

In 1 Cor 12:3 says different ,
Therefore , I make known to you that NO ONE speaking by God's Spirit says Jesus is accursed and NO ONE is ABLE to say Lord Jesus EXCEPT by the Holy Spirit
That is what Saul // Paul said in Acts 9:6 and trembling and terrified , he said , LORD // KYRIOS , meaning Master what do you wish me to do !!

Did Paul say "Jesus is Lord" or "Lord Jesus" outside of Damascus ?
No.
Contrary to Paul already having the gift of the Holy Ghost, it is written..."And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost." (Acts 9:17)
Ananias wouldn't have said that if Paul already had the gift of the Holy Ghost.

And in Acts 22:16 was SAUL // PAUL BAPTIZED or was Saul // Paul WATER // HUDOR , BPTIZED ??

The Greek WATER // HUDOR is NOT in the Greek text

What else besides water do you suppose Paul would have been "immersed" into for his baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins ?
Something different than the Ethiopian eunuch ?
"And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him." (Acts 8:38)

 

[Dan Perez]

Did Paul say "Jesus is Lord" or "Lord Jesus" outside of Damascus ?
No.
Contrary to Paul already having the gift of the Holy Ghost, it is written..."And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost." (Acts 9:17)
Ananias wouldn't have said that if Paul already had the gift of the Holy Ghost.

What else besides water do you suppose Paul would have been "immersed" into for his baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins ?
Something different than the Ethiopian eunuch ?
"And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him." (Acts 8:38)

There are only two verses that are USED , when any was BAPTIZED .

#1 In Matt 28:19 was too say the following words , BAPTIZING them in the name of the FATHER , and of the SON and of

the HOLY SPRIT

# 2 Is in Acts 19:5 and they were BAPTIZED in the NAME of the LORD JESUS that I have seen and NOTICE that both

of this verse do not USE the Greek , HUDOR for WATER is not in the Greek TEXT , PERIOD

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

There are only two verses that are USED , when any was BAPTIZED .

#1 In Matt 28:19 was too say the following words , BAPTIZING them in the name of the FATHER , and of the SON and of

the HOLY SPRIT

# 2 Is in Acts 19:5 and they were BAPTIZED in the NAME of the LORD JESUS that I have seen and NOTICE that both

of thee verse do not USE the Greek , HUDOR for WATER is not in the Greek TEXT , PERIOD

dan p

Is there some other word that you were expecting to see ?
It is a tacit given that water was to be used to baptize the repentant for the remission of their past sins.
Just as it was for John the Baptist. (John 1:26)

 

[Dan Perez]

Is there some other word that you were expecting to see ?
It is a tacit given that water was to be used to baptize the repentant for the remission of their past sins.
Just as it was for John the Baptist. (John 1:26)

When you say the word GOSPEL ,// GUANGELION what does the mean ?

It can mean Good Tiding or Good News .

When you see the word BAPTISM , what does it mean when it written without the word WATER is by it self ??

Here is just one example in 1 Cor 10: 2 And ALL were Baptized TOGETHER unto Moses in the Cloud and in the SEA .

What does the word BAPTIZED // BAPTIZO then mean ??

And have some verses in Roman , also !!

Question , why in Acts 2:38 does it not use the Greek word WATER // UDOR ??

How were they BAPTIZED // BAPTISO , in the name of Jesus Christ ??

In Acts 19: 4 the Greek text does NOT use the Greek word BAPTISM , because the Greek uses the word , BAPTISMA , why ??

And have more like BAPTISMA in Rom 6 !!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

When you say the word GOSPEL , what does the mean ?

To me, and I think everyone else, it means "good news".

It can mean Good Tiding or Good News .

Agreed.

When you see the word BAPTISM , what does it mean when it written without the word WATER is by it self ??

It means "immersion", dipped, fully whelmed.

Here is just one example in 1 Cor 10: 2 And ALL were Baptized TOGETHER unto Moses in the Cloud and in the SEA .
What does the word BAPTIZED then mean ??

Here, it means partaking in all that Moses took part in.

And have some verses in Roman , also !!
Question , why in Acts 2:38 does it not use the Greek word WATER // UDOR ??

Water was the mode of baptism since John the baptist used the waters of the Jordan for the remission of sins.
When talking about baptism, it wasn't necessary to add "with water".

How were they BAPTIZED , in the name of Jesus Christ ??

Acts 2:38 says to use that name while baptizing for the remission of sins.
Acts 22:16 says the same.
And, it is written..."For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Rom 10:13)

In Acts 19: 4 the Greek text does NOT use the Greek word BAPTISM , because the Greek uses the word , BAPTISMA , why ??

It is probably a differentiation, like, "Let's go bowling." compared to "Bowling in my favorite sport."
I think the perspective of the word "baptize" also matters in which Greek word was used.

And have more like BAPTISMA in Rom 6 !!
dan p

Aren't you glad the Spirit filled men of the 1600s decided which words to use, instead of making us do the work ?

 

[Dan Perez]

To me, and I think everyone else, it means "good news".

Agreed.

It means "immersion", dipped, fully whelmed.

Here, it means partaking in all that Moses took part in.

Water was the mode of baptism since John the baptist used the waters of the Jordan for the remission of sins.
When talking about baptism, it wasn't necessary to add "with water".

Acts 2:38 says to use that name while baptizing for the remission of sins.
Acts 22:16 says the same.
And, it is written..."For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Rom 10:13)

It is probably a differentiation, like, "Let's go bowling." compared to "Bowling in my favorite sport."
I think the perspective of the word "baptize" also matters in which Greek word was used.

Aren't you glad the Spirit filled men of the 1600s decided which words to use, instead of making us do the work ?

And Acts 1:5 definitely show WHY WATER // HUDOR will be FADE away .

For John indeed BAPTIZED // BAPTIZO with WAYER // HUDOR , But you will be BAPTIZED with HOLY SPIRIT , not many

days after .

Many days after is Acts 2:38 , and this BAPTISM without WATER // HUDOR , ended in Acts 28:25-28 and Paul left the

Jews and began his ministry with GENTILES , and many believers say you HAVE to be WAER BAPTIZED .

And I have many verses that PROVE water baptism has disappeared .

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

And Acts 1:5 definitely show WHY WATER will be FADE away .

For John indeed BAPTIZED with WATER , But you will be BAPTIZED with HOLY SPIRIT , not many

days after .

Many days after is Acts 2:38 , and this BAPTISM without WATER , ended in Acts 28:25-28 and Paul left the

Jews and began his ministry with GENTILES , and many believers say you HAVE to be WAER BAPTIZED .

And I have many verses that PROVE water baptism has disappeared .

dan p

You don't have any verses that say water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins is now unnecessary.

 

[Dan Perez]

You don't have any verses that say water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins is now unnecessary.

Has you wondered WHY water baptism was ONLY given to Israel in John , and John 1:31 reads , And I knew him NOT , but

that He should be MADE , to Israel , therefore am I come Baptizing with WATER // HUDOR .

John was speaking to Israel is the CONTEXT , PERIOD is what John has said !!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

Has you wondered WHY water baptism was ONLY given to Israel in John , and John 1:31 reads , And I knew him NOT , but
that He should be MADE , to Israel , therefore am I come Baptizing with WATER .
John was speaking to Israel is the CONTEXT , PERIOD is what John has said !!

Why would he have spoke of anyone else besides Israelites ?
The NT wasn't for anyone but Jews, until Cornelius' house showed it was also for Gentiles.
That is when Peter said..."Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days." (Acts 10:47-48)