And ALL on your TAX $.. Obama and the DEMS are at it again.

[brindisi]

It may not have ended poverty, but it has redefined it and greatly ameliorated it. Almost no one dies of malnutrition, let alone starvation these days. Nearly everyone has electricity, heat in the winter, running water and indoor plumbing.

Americans were diying of malnutrition and starvation, and didn't have electricity or heat in the winter or running water or indoor plumbing in 1965?

Yes, what is considered to be ''poverty" changes, but the poverty "rate" has remained nearly unchanged. But you will notice that no matter how much money is confiscated and redistributed, it is never enough for those involved in the poverty pimping business.

 

[DuneSoldier]

Its government government does NOTHING THAT FAST.

Let's say that by some chance they were able to get rid of them that quickly. I'd say the different government programs would have to exhaust all their resources and liquidate all the office materials they have.

Then for a time it would be bad until the American people started having MUCH, MUCH more $ in their pockets and charities would see a rise in the amount of donations they receive. Not always for the right reasons but mostly so. I'd imagine that some would give just so they did'nt have to see the little beggars etc.

A 3 to 5 year approach would perhaps work best, In cooperation with city, county, state agencies and back to work programs etc.

Why would they give more to charity?

 

[kermit]

Then you do the class warfare bit.

What class warfare bit? It is not 100% true that there are poor people who produce and rich who do not? The terms "producers" and "non-producers" was introduced by another poster to equate to "poor" and "not poor". I merely pointed out that the terms do not equate.

You show a true lack of respect for your fellow man.

But when a fellow conservative belittes (and there is few insults more biting to a poor working man than questioning the value of his work) his fellow man you are silent. How typically conservative.

 

[MichaelHelp]

Aren't income taxes and capital gain taxes lower under President Obama than President Reagan? Is this another moment where the pot calls the kettle black? I think so.

 

[kermit]

Aren't income taxes and capital gain taxes lower under President Obama than President Reagan? Is this another moment where the pot calls the kettle black? I think so.

Didn't you know that Reagan, who raised middle class taxes and had the largest expansion of government to that time, is the poster child for small government conservatism? After all, he did say that government is the problem not the solution.

 

[MichaelHelp]

Didn't you know that Reagan, who raised middle class taxes and had the largest expansion of government to that time, is the poster child for small government conservatism. After all, he did say that government is the problem not the solution.

Sounds like the GOP, all talk no walk. Another reason why they fail to get my vote despite my agreement with them on social issues.

 

[DaisyDay]

Americans were diying of malnutrition and starvation, and didn't have electricity or heat in the winter or running water or indoor plumbing in 1965?

Malnutrition, yes, starvation, not so sure. The other things, yes, mainly in the mountains and very rural areas. Do you think things were always how they are now?

Yes, what is considered to be ''poverty" changes, but the poverty "rate" has remained nearly unchanged.

Is that true? I'm pretty sure that the percentage of senior citizens, particularly widows, below the poverty line has changed drastically since the sixties.

Whether the rate changes would depend in large part in how it is defined.

But you will notice that no matter how much money is confiscated and redistributed, it is never enough for those involved in the poverty pimping business.

Ooo! "confiscated", "poverty pimping" - scare words designed to provoke emotional responses rather than rational conversation.

Side question - are you related to McSwann?

 

[brindisi]

Malnutrition, yes, starvation, not so sure. The other things, yes, mainly in the mountains and very rural areas. Do you think things were always how they are now?

Ooo! "confiscated", "poverty pimping" - scare words designed to provoke emotional responses rather than rational conversation.

Side question - are you related to McSwann?

Well, since I was very much alive and well in 1965 - just a year away from joing the navy - I have a good idea if things were always how they are now.

Scare words? Nope, jst making sure those things that stink are never presented without the stench they deserve.

Am I related to mcswan? By political philosophy.

 

[St. Barnabas]

Well, since I was very much alive and well in 1965 - just a year away from joing the navy - I have a good idea if things were always how they are now.

Kinda makes you wonder how we all survived, with no seat belts in our cars, no anti-smoking laws, no bicycle helmets, and no nanny state to tell us what we can say and what we can't say.