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An FSSP response to the SSPX

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Ever feel like life is an acronym? Anyway, I just received my latest Latin Mass magazine and I am retyping this letter for everyone's benefit. Like I said in my blog, 'you have to be in it to win it'. Enjoy!

To Bishop Bernard Fellay, SSPX

Your Excellency,

Recently I found it necessary to reassure my parishoners at Our Lady of Carmel in Littleton, Colorado, that the "present state of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter" is not as bleak as you and other priests of the Society of St. Pius X paint it. As an incardinated priest in the FSSP I am quite aware of the denouncements and other negative comments made with regard to the FSSP. As a rule I try to disregard them, but when comments, stories and misleading statements confuse and unduly worry those under my charge, I am obliged to take a stand in defense of the Fraternity of St. Peter.

Mr. Alessandro Zangrando, the Rome correspondent of The Latin Mass, conducted an interview with you. This interview, consisting of the questions posed and your replies, appeared in the Summer 2004 edition of The Latin Mass. I found the interview interesting and informative, and would say that most of your views are not much different from those of other adherents to the Tradition of the Church. However, you made some comments with which I beg to differ.

Mr. Zangrando asked the question, "What is your assessment of the current Vatican attitude toward Tradition?" Included within the context of your answer were these particular statements. I quote: "All this leads to conclusion that Tradition remains an exception in the Church, and that the general and universal law that shall remain the norm is that of the new Mass and the post-conciliar reforms. Tradition thus occupies a very precarious status." I agree with you but would add that another reason for this is because the majority of Catholics, having been deprived and having lost touch with Tradition are not at the present time clamoring or breaking down doors in order to return to It. By far the majority of Catholics remain enamored with the new direction the Church has taken because it does not make great demands of self. In this era of "cafeteria Catholics" and the loss of the "sense of sin", the new approach is right up their alley.

You then went on to say, "The present state of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter is one of the best illustrations of the fruits of the Ecclesia Dei Commission given under Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos. They were beheaded by the dismissal of Fr. Bisig, who tried to keep the society's exclusive commitment to the old Mass. The FSSP is now led by a minority ready to engage in almost any liturgical compromise, and is losing more credibility every day. As the FSSP has articulated no clear stance regarding the current crisis in the Church, and seems not to possess the possibility of having one, there is an enormous potential for a split amongst the members themselves."

These points of contention which I have not only with you but with others who tend to believe that the FSSP is falling apart at the seams, I detect a sense of wishful thinking when statements like these are made. The dismissal of our good and conscientious former superior, Fr. Bisig, was not brought about at the behest of the members of the FSSP. That was totally out of our control.

This however, does not warrent throwing up our arms in despair. I for one do not plan on disuniting myself from the Church but rather to continue doing my utmost to provide solace, through the Tridentine Sacraments, to those who love and seek them. Yes, when we encounter the many roadblocks which are placed in the path of the FSSP, it becomes hard to hold the fort, but with the help of God all things are possible. As we well know, He will never abandon us and leave us orphans. I am always encouraged by the words of St. Peter "Lord, to whom shall we go?" Yes, at times this seems catastrophically gloomy and it is a temptation to jump ship as so many traditionals have done, but I am reassured with the words of our Lord, "...Thou are Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Anyone who wants my exit ticket out of the Church is welcome to it. I'll not charge them anything for it. Need I add that far too many, for one reason or another, have elected to abandon the Barque of Peter. I can understand why those who do not love the Church do so, but it is beyond my comprehension why those who say they love the Church choose to rupture that cohesion which must exist within the Mystical Body of Christ. I would like to quote one short paragraph from the New Catholic Encyclopedia, Copyright 1967, Vol. 12, which saysa, "To the Fathers the great malice of schism was the abandonment of the one Body of Christ in defiance of the one Spirit of Christ, with the setting up of a rival altar and a rival Eucharist, focusing another assembly of believers which could be only a counterfeit communion." Salus Extra Ecclesia? Just because some members of the Church presently shy away from this perennial Truth does not mean that it is not so! It would pain me greatly -and I do mean that literally- if on my judgment day I found myself on the wrong side of the fence.

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But allow me to continue. You also said, "The FSSP is now led by a minority ready to engage in almost any liturgical compromise and is losing more credibility every day." Let me assure your Excellency, a minority within the FSSP might be "ready to engage in almost any liturgical compromise", but the minority is just that -a minority, not a majority! The majority, if I may be so bold to speak for my FSSP brothers at least in the U.S., are not ready to compromise with anything not in keeping with Tradition. Tradition is the reason for our existance. John Paul II in trying to accommodate those attached to the Tridentine Mass and Sacraments who had not desire to break with the Church, allowed the founding of the FSSP. I see the hand of God in all of this; He has not left us orphans. I have heard it said --and this from members of your own ranks -that the real reason for the founding of the FSSP was that Rome was out to "destroy" the SSPX. Please give us more credit than this. Why should the FSSP even attempt to discredit the good you do? We are not fools! We would prefer to work with you, not against you. Every day, especially at Mass, I pray for the return to full communion with the Church of those who of their own accord -sometimes for reasons that seem justifiable -have separated themselves from the Church or at least have caused a grievous wound to the Mystical Body of Christ. Our Lord left us the example when He prayed, "That they all may be one". Together we could accomplish much more.

As for losing credibility -we lose credibility only with those who do not want us in the Church. Should we accommodate them? I prefer not to answer that! Our credibility is greatly enhanced when those who are searching for the Traditional Mass and Sacraments finds out that we are indeed kosher, "yes, we are in complete union with Rome", "yes, the archbishop or bishop has approved our being here, in fact, he has graciously granted us faculties". What a sigh of relief on their part and I have witnessed many a tear of joy because our Lord has answered their prayer.

As for the question of celebration or concelebration of the new Mass and other related problems, Rome has spoken, but this does not mean that I, or as far as I know, other FSSP priests having this "right", choose to exercise it.

In my opinion, your statement "As the FSSP has articulated no clear stance regarding the current crisis in the Church, and seems not ot possess the possibility of having one..." is totally misleading. Just because we refuse to enter into discussions and petty arguments with those who hold views which are in total opposition to our own, does not mean that we have no clear stance. Actions speak louder than words. On matters pertaining to the Church, we pursue Tradition just as much as the SSPX -and might I add we suffer all the more for it. We are attacked by both from the left and the right, by "modernists" and "traditionalists" alike. We are looked at with suspicion and distrust, sometimes ignored altogether. But we, the FSSP, are willing to suffer the maledictions, we hold our course. Why? Because our love of the Church demands it. Our love of Tradition dictates that we do all we can to re-introduce it to our brothers and sisters who have been denied it or have never experienced its awesome beauty and reverence. We must charitably do this not by argumentative means or worthless hate-producing rivalries. This does not mean that we must remain silent when something goes awry or is seriously wrong. On the contrary, in keeping with the example of the saints of the past we must rise to the occasion and defend our Beloved Church when She is attacked by the principalities of darkness both from within and without the Church. I will not compromise with those enemies of Christ, prelates or otherwise, who would destroy the Church, if that were possible.

If I may speak for all or most of us, the FSSP priests seek to administer those Sacraments which we love and all that we ask is that we are allowed to do so in peace. For our part, we must practice charity, all the while keeping in mind His admonition, "Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves." To do otherwise is to court disaster.

Fraternally yours in Christ,

Father Jose Maria Salgado
 
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Rilian said:
PeterPaul, what is the FSSP and why does the SSPX have a bone to pick with them?

Also, what is the current standing of the SSPX? I've read conflicting information.

The FSSP was the apostolate formed by JPII after the schism of Msgr Lefebvre (he ordained bishops against the will of the Holy Father). It was an alternate to th SSPX once they were no longer affiliated with the Church due to the schism.

Currently if there is no Traditional Mass in your area you are allowed to attend an SSPX Tridentine Mass, however there are certain restrictions when attending them.

There are talks and discussions to bring them back to the fold. Then Cardinal Ratzinger has a lot of experience in this area. My hopes are that he declar the Tridentine Mass and its Sacraments not a preference but a right. We may actually see that he place the Tridentine on a par with the Novus Ordo. I've heard rumours from friends in Rome this may happen.

This move would finally justify our beloved Mass in the eyes of modern sceptics and probably bring most members of the SSPX back into the fold.
 
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PeterPaul said:
My hopes are that he declar the Tridentine Mass and its Sacraments not a preference but a right. We may actually see that he place the Tridentine on a par with the Novus Ordo. I've heard rumours from friends in Rome this may happen.

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PeterPaul said:
My hopes are that he declar the Tridentine Mass and its Sacraments not a preference but a right. We may actually see that he place the Tridentine on a par with the Novus Ordo. I've heard rumours from friends in Rome this may happen.

Should any priest ordained today be able to celebrate the Tridentine mass, even if they never or seldom do? What I mean is if it became a right and not a preference would there be the priests available to make that happen?
 
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Rilian said:
Should any priest ordained today be able to celebrate the Tridentine mass, even if they never or seldom do? What I mean is if it became a right and not a preference would there be the priests available to make that happen?

Probably most would have to re-learn it. It can be done quite simply by having an FSSP priest start in a local diocese and teach others to do so. In fact, this would probably expand the Apostolate as they would have to increase in numbers to travel across the country.

My Diocese has a couple of "indult" priests who could teach others. In my case, we probably would start with a parish of our own and then expand from there. More than likely, should Benedict XVI do what is suggested, everything would change gradually. It wouldn't force every parish to have one Mass a week according to the '62 (or before) missal, but rather it would start small.

Some priests, if forced to say both might not be happy with it, but at least it would legitimize it for other parishes.

I'm going to petition a parish of our own this summer. Pray for me, because I'm going to be attacked in my Diocese.
 
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PeterPaul said:
Currently if there is no Traditional Mass in your area you are allowed to attend an SSPX Tridentine Mass, however there are certain restrictions when attending them.

PP, where did you get that information? that sounds incorrect to me. Unless by 'restrictions' you mean - you cannot receive Holy Communion, etc..
 
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PeterPaul said:
Probably most would have to re-learn it. It can be done quite simply by having an FSSP priest start in a local diocese and teach others to do so. In fact, this would probably expand the Apostolate as they would have to increase in numbers to travel across the country.

My Diocese has a couple of "indult" priests who could teach others. In my case, we probably would start with a parish of our own and then expand from there. More than likely, should Benedict XVI do what is suggested, everything would change gradually. It wouldn't force every parish to have one Mass a week according to the '62 (or before) missal, but rather it would start small.

Some priests, if forced to say both might not be happy with it, but at least it would legitimize it for other parishes.

I'm going to petition a parish of our own this summer. Pray for me, because I'm going to be attacked in my Diocese.
Paul, I heard from the owner of my Catholic Store, that this was the plan for a parish in the next town over from me. :clap: and it will hopefully be happening within the next year. It's a matter of patience, waiting for them to be ordained takes time, but it is worth the wait.
We can, and should pray that the SSPX can humble themselves and let go of their pride and submit to Holy Mother Church. My gosh, how much stronger and better we would all be for it.
It is my hope to one day be able to help sponser a FSSP seminarian, those that are able should.
I am encouraged by this letter, it seems, even though they (SSPX) are picking a fight, it will lead to future dialog...at least I pray it will.
That we might all be one fold:liturgy: :priest:
 
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Epiphanygirl said:
It is my hope to one day be able to help sponser a FSSP seminarian, those that are able should.
I am encouraged by this letter, it seems, even though they (SSPX) are picking a fight, it will lead to future dialog...at least I pray it will.

AMEN!
 
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NDIrish said:
http://www.fssp.org/

They have a very AWESOME flash intro to their site.

Man, in my wildest dreams, I long to have a FSSP parish here in my diocese. We are without a Bishop currently...I pray they our new Bishop be open to this.
Have you checked out the picture section yet? It's great!!! You can also buy books, calenders, etc to help support them;)
 
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Epiphanygirl said:
Have you checked out the picture section yet? It's great!!! You can also buy books, calenders, etc to help support them;)

Yes, in fact, I used a lot of their pictures on my website (with their permission)...check it out:

www.unavocenashville.com

BTW, I really need to get off my butt and update it one of these days...
 
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NDIrish said:
Yes, in fact, I used a lot of their pictures on my website (with their permission)...check it out:

www.unavocenashville.com

BTW, I really need to get off my butt and update it one of these days...
Awesome!! I can't believe I haven't seen your site before:doh: Great job:thumbsup:
 
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geocajun said:
PP, where did you get that information? that sounds incorrect to me. Unless by 'restrictions' you mean - you cannot receive Holy Communion, etc..
I believe, and I could be wrong, that because the Mass is considered valid, that you can receive Holy Communion, otherwise, if the Church did not believe the consecration to be valid and transubstantiation to take place, a warning would not be needed as to its validity (like attending a Protestant service would bear a warning and communion there invalid).

But, I could always be wrong on this.
 
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