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Trivial....so " it " will do just fine....
Now, despite your attempt to run from the argument, explain why you worship this sadistic invention, given that it makes judgement of you for actions that it purportedly always knew you'd take....?
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No, not 'trivial.'
You're doing the very thing you're complaining about:
... only worse, by assuming God is a machine.
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Is that what you think of yourself? a bush?
God is a machine and you're a bush?
I don't talk to plants.
I suspect you have been listening to Gene Roddenberry too much.
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It does not matter what people like me have done. This is between you and God and I have NOTHING to do with it. Oh to be sure the atonement is two fold. IF you were saved you would be reconciled with the father AND ALSO Jesus paid the price so Christians are reconciled with each other. From your attitude toward Christians I would say it is a pretty safe guess that you have not been rescued, saved, healed and delivered. This is your choice and God leaves it up to you to decide what you want to do with your life.
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If your god exists, then he would know which choice I was going to make, even before I was born.....free will wouldn't come into it. You god's claimed omniscience means that I was already programmed to behave in a particular way...
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Well, which do you prefer?
1. God be omnipotent and you His marionette.
2. God be potent and you Satan's marionette.
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Wouldn't it be nice if our computers were programmed by someone omniscient?
It could log you into CF before you even sit down.
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He could have know if He wanted to know. But He can also choose NOT to know what choice your going to make. Either way, first you want to blame me, now you want to blame God. What you need to do is maybe quit trying to peddle the blame off onto others. Your not going to get anywhere until you start to take a little bit of responsibility for yourself in life.
I do not know what "omniscience" is. I have never seen that word in the Bible.
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Not the "all-loving" being then I imagine. As it appears to have created something and given it control, and this something it knows is the utmost evil incarnate.
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An atheist who imagines "all-loving" ... hmmm.
This machine you're talking about, is your level of understanding of theology excluding the fact that this "thing" gave control to Adam, who then turned it over to this "something"?
No middleman (or middlebot) in your corporation, is there?
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No verification of either the end product or beginning product either. It's almost as if this is nothing more than a series of hypotheticals in a fantasy?
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At least try to get the "fantasy" right, will you?
Just because you think it's a fantasy, doesn't mean you can toss accuracy to the wind.
Or are you making up your own story, then expecting us to sort it out?
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