An atheists world (2)

[toolmanjantzi]

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[AV1611VET]

An intelligent designer would not have all of the errors that we see in life today.

First of all, what you see today is not what the Intelligent Designer designed.

Second of all, the Intelligent Designer is going to restore what He designed back to its full intelligence and design.

 

[RedRover]

at best IDists can argue for Incompetent Design.

So evolution offers people a choice between a blind designer and an incompetent designer?

 

[EternalDragon]

First of all, what you see today is not what the Intelligent Designer designed.

Second of all, the Intelligent Designer is going to restore what He designed back to its full intelligence and design.

Psst, AV....I don't think they got the memo.

 

[AV1611VET]

Scientists don't insist that one term has nothing to do with the other. They very honestly concede that the terms are interchangeable...

Bologna.

The Big Bang is neither big, nor bang; let alone interchangeable.

 

[lasthero]

Psst, AV....I don't think they got the memo.

Haven't you stated that the Intelligent Designer of ID isn't supposed to be any specific deity? Why are you giving him decidedly Christian attributes?

 

[AV1611VET]

Psst, AV....I don't think they got the memo.

That's an understatement!

 

[RedRover]

Psst, AV....I don't think they got the memo.

Yep, they do not get it. All of their evidence for mutations and retrovirus only shows that creation is in a fallen state and in need of redemption. Darwin struggles with this when he lost his daughter because there was nothing in his theory that offered him any comfort.

 

[Subduction Zone]

First of all, what you see today is not what the Intelligent Designer designed.

Second of all, the Intelligent Designer is going to restore what He designed back to its full intelligence and design.

Prove it. And not with nonsense.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yep, they do not get it. All of their evidence for mutations and retrovirus only shows that creation is in a fallen state and in need of redemption. Darwin struggles with this when he lost his daughter because there was nothing in his theory that offered him any comfort.

Wrong again.

Please, tell me how much science education that you have had and how well did you do in it.

 

[lasthero]

Darwin struggles with this when he lost his daughter because there was nothing in his theory that offered him any comfort.

You're either lying or you got this information from someone who lied to you.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So evolution offers people a choice between a blind designer and an incompetent designer?

Evolution works on "good enough". If you claim an "intelligent" designer you have a lot of flaws to explain. And why those flaws follow the evolutionary theory.

When you can do that perhaps then you can claim an "intelligent designer" but I doubt it.

 

[RedRover]

Bologna.

The Big Bang is neither big, nor bang; let alone interchangeable.

It may not be big and it may not have banged but it is a theory. I am not quite sure what they has to do with a town in Italy that they named a sandwich after.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It may not be big and it may not have banged but it is a theory. I am not quite sure what they has to do with a town in Italy that they named a sandwich after.

Thank you for admitting that it is probably correct.

 

[RedRover]

When you can do that perhaps then you can claim an "intelligent designer" but I doubt it.

I am not much interested in claiming an "intelligent designer". I will leave that up to whoever sells those books on that. I have a copy of Meyers 600 page book claiming to have evidence, only I am not convinced there is any evidence in there.

 

[lasthero]

I have a copy of Meyers 600 page book claiming to have evidence, only I am not convinced there is any evidence in there.

...well, have you read it?

 

[AV1611VET]

Prove it.

I don't sell alcohol -- nor do I make it.

But it does come from a spirit -- the Holy Spirit.

 

[AV1611VET]

It may not be big and it may not have banged but it is a theory.

Exactly my point.

They'll excuse the name; but accuse someone else's.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't sell alcohol -- nor do I make it.

But it does come from a spirit -- the Holy Spirit.

Good. Admitting your nonsense comes from fevered dreams is a start to a cure.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Exactly my point.

They'll excuse the name; but accuse someone else's.

Still clueless I see.

But it seems that you are admitting that is it very likely to be correct too.

You have made a lot of progress tonight AV.