An appeal for a new rule

[NightEternal]

Trads all pretty much believe, think and react alike. They are programmed by the Trad agenda and are slaves to the TSDA party line and EGW veneration, chained to and boxed in the 28 fundamentals, unable to venture outside of the borders much like if there was an electric fence around them. When they talk or type, it's like a Doug Batchelor Tommy Talker doll spouting off the standard proof-texts and predictable defenses of certain indefensible beliefs.

TSDAism is nothing but a huge Borg empire, and all who can be will be assimilated. Forced conformity and marching in lock-step is the order of the day.

That is not a big secret.

We Progs do not and are not. We can never be categorized, sterotyped or generalized because we are all UNIQUE.

BIG difference.

 

[RND]

Trads all pretty much believe, think and react alike. They are programmed by the Trad agenda and are slaves to the TSDA party line and EGW veneration, chained to and boxed in the 28 fundamentals, unable to venture outside of the borders much like if there was an electric fence around them. When they talk or type, it's like a Doug Batchelor Tommy Talker doll spouting off the standard proof-texts and predictable defenses of certain indefensible beliefs.

TSDAism is nothing but a huge Borg empire, and all who can be will be assimilated. Conformity and marching in lock-step is the order of the day.

That is not a big secret.

We Progs do not and are not. We can never be categorized, sterotyped or generalized because we are all UNIQUE.

BIG difference.

If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything. - Malcom X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything. - Malcom X

 

[Sophia7]

Just to clarify, you wouldn't be able to exclude only Traditionals from debating in the Prog sub-forum. You could limit debate only to Progressives, or you could leave things open as they are now.

 

[honorthesabbath]

If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything. - Malcom X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything. - Malcom X

Thats what I keep telling them RND and they keep not getting it.

 

[NightEternal]

Just to clarify, you wouldn't be able to exclude only Traditionals from debating in the Prog sub-forum. You could limit debate only to Progressives, or you could leave things open as they are now.

Well, so much for that then. Rats!!

How are things coming along as far as a split happening?

 

[Sophia7]

Well, so much for that then. Rats!!

How are things coming along as far as a split happening?

I haven't heard anything yet. I'll keep checking.

 

[NightEternal]

Thats what I keep telling them RND and they keep not getting it.

It's not that we don't 'get it'. We 'get it' just fine and we have deemed such an accusation as worthless and stupid.

Every one of us Progs stands for something. Just not all the same thing.

Is that clear enough or do we need flash cards?

 

[RND]

You could limit debate only to Progressives....

I thought that's what they wanted?

 

[Sophia7]

I thought that's what they wanted?

Some of them want that. Some want to prohibit only Traditionals from debating (which isn't going to happen). Some want to keep it open to everyone.

 

[RND]

Some of them want that. Some want to prohibit only Traditionals from debating (which isn't going to happen). Some want to keep it open to everyone.

I think they should just limit debate to only progressives in the Progressive area. It would solve alot of problems. Of course, no one would podt anything or have much to discuss anymore.

 

[mva1985]

As you have MANY TIMES.

I don't care if it was you or not. You Trads are all the same to me, so I am just as happy to hold you responsible for the attacks of your cohorts as anyone.

Now that is just intolerant. Pure and simple.

 

[honorthesabbath]

Now that is just intolerant. Pure and simple.

Thats right MVA--doesn't it remind you of something about a mote and a beam??

 

[NightEternal]

Now that is just intolerant. Pure and simple.

Nope. Just true. You can follow the reasoning of just about any Trad you can pick out of the herd. I've done it many times and it never fails. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. It's like they are following a script or something. You would think they are reading straight out of Mark Finley's book Studying Together the way they string the same proof-texts in the same order, defending the same things in the same way.

http://www.itiswritten.com/store/products/studying_together

If you don't want people to have that perception (and many do), the way to avoid it is to think for yourselves and avoid parroting the party line along with the rest of the TSDA group.

But that will never happen, because, like I said in my thread which was deleted, Trads think they have 100% of already established truth and no deviancy from any of it will be tolerated in their group.

Yippy, sign me up for some of that!

Not.

 

[RND]

Nope. Just true. You can follow the reasoning of just about any Trad you can pick out of the herd. I've done it many times and it never fails. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. It's like they are following a script or something. You would think they are reading straight out of Mark Finley's book Studying Together the way they string the same proof-texts in the same order, defending the same things in the same way.

http://www.itiswritten.com/store/products/studying_together

If you don'T want people to have that perception (and many do), the way to avoid it is to think for yourselves and avoid parroting the party line along with the rest of the TSDA group.

I've never read that book Night. Should I?

 

[NightEternal]

You don't have to. The trail of proper proof texts is already laid out to be followed. Finley just took what is standard in Adventist Bible studies and evangelistic series and put it into book form.

Note I said YOU WOULD THINK they are reading straight out of Finley's book. I did not say they were.

 

[RND]

You don't have to. The trail of proper proof texts is already laid out to be followed. Finley just took what is standard in Adventist Bible studies and evangelistic series and put it into book form. Note I said YOU WOULD THINK they are reading straight out of Finley's book. I did not say they were.

Yeah, but how do we all walk in lockstep if we haven't all read the same lockstep manual? Obviously you feel that we must in some way be following the same or similar lockstep teaching right? You know, what I find so funny here Night? That I'm even considered a 'traditional' Adventist even though you have insinuated I'm a bleeding heart liberal. The two don't go together like peas and carrots.

Originally Posted by NightEternal ....the other who somehow thinks I am going to swallow his bleeding heart liberalism and emasculated Christ.

 

[NightEternal]

Liberal in politics/social issues and liberal in theology are two different animals.

Granted, you are a different breed. You seem to have accepted Trad doctrine in most respects except for your Christology, which apparently has been influenced by those over at Heavenly Sactuary.com. Wether it is just the 'character of Christ' motif they endorse, or wether it is the whole Graham Maxwell, moral influence package that you have embraced, I don't know.

Strange, considering most Trads I know despise that site and the theology they endorse.

 

[RND]

Liberal in politics/social issues and liberal in theology are two different animals.

Was Jesus a liberal? I mean, He ate with publicans and sinners and never once told anyone to go to war? In fact, He said if those who followed Him were of this world they would fight which seems to suggest to me that those who follow Jesus have no need to fight.

Granted, you are a different breed. You seem to have accepted Trad doctrine in most respects except for your Christology, which you seem to have been influenced by those over at Heavenly Sactuary.com.

I would say my Christology is heavily influenced by EGW actually. I think she painted some very vivid pictures of the character and nature of Christ.

Wether it is just the 'character of Christ' motif they endorse, or wether it is the whole Graham Maxwell, moral influence package that you have embraced, I don't know.

Anyone who knows Graham Maxwell and his teaching knows just how much he has been influenced by Mrs. White as well.

Starnge, considering most Trads despise that site and the theology they endorse.

Um, I think that's a fairly general statement. I know alot of 'traditional' Adventist's that love that Heavenly Sanctuary.

 

[OntheDL]

Yeah, but how do we all walk in lockstep if we haven't all read the same lockstep manual? Obviously you feel that we must in some way be following the same or similar lockstep teaching right? You know, what I find so funny here Night? That I'm even considered a 'traditional' Adventist even though you have insinuated I'm a bleeding heart liberal. The two don't go together like peas and carrots.

Yeah, I have never read that book by Mark Finley either. In fact, most if not all of my SDA believes were formed by studying the bible before I read any denominational materials (EGW testimonies included).

 

[RND]

Yeah, I have never read that book by Mark Finley either. In fact, most if not all of my SDA believes were formed by studying the bible before I read any denominational materials (EGW testimonies included).

Hey me too!

Guess we're walkin' in lockstep OntheDL!