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AMD or INTEL?
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Haha, no I haven't ever really been on this side of the forum, I just saw this in the recent discussions section and had to support my friends at AMD. I built my computer a year ago (ok a few days short of a year) anyway... I needed something that would be good for editing video seeing as I am a film major. So naturally I went for a dual processor. And with the research I did on the programs and stuff I went with AMD. Plus all my other intel computers have been pieces of crud. They just don't last long- but I suppose that is what I got for getting laptops. Anyway, I probably won't be in here again since I really don't know much about computers. Building one is the easy part!
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hmmm, a lady computer builder.....I don't see many girl computer geeks (that's a good thing, lol)....hmmm.....scratchs head and thinks, hmmmm, competition, hehehe, j/kBlanton911 said:
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hehe no, i am not competition by any means, trust me. figuring out where something fits is really easy. knowing how to use it is different. thought i think my computer has 4 fans in it... hehe let me look.... yup 4 fans.
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hehe, ok...WHAT ARE YOU DOING, SITTING ON THAT SEND BUTTON, LOL I have 1 fan besides the power supply fan.....but I also have the air conditioning vent right behind the computer, lol....This time I'm going to bed for real, lolBlanton911 said:
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hehe bill, i am just stalking you is all. actually the case came with two fans, but i didnt know that when i ordered it, so i bought two also. which is cool, it never gets hot hehe. but it gets kinda dusty in there, there is the door on the side that you can see through.... nasty
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ewwww.....sadly, my new system is a dell, not that it's bad, I like it, but I miss building my own, I just didn't have the money to do it this time (my last computer got blown out from a lightening strikeBlanton911 said:
last spring and it was only 6 months old) but I needed a new computer fast because I was in the middle of making a wedding video and had lost some stuff and I had to have it done within the week, lol
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hey I just got myself an AMD ATHLON XP 2200+ 1.8GHz Socket A ThoroughBred 266MHz FSB to upgrade my old AMD 800. Anyone can recommend me a motherboard (I don't want any of that integrated stuff like network, sound etc. if possible).
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http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-d/overview.htmdatan said:
Unfortunately integrated sound and LAN is hard to get away from. All but impossible.
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Hmm. I guess you could take a look at this product:datan said:
http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/pd_spec.asp?product_id=351
This particular piece is AMD approved, as seen at http://www2.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/1,,30_182_869_4348^7923,00.html?1064460324
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umm.. hyperthreading will not be obsolete by next year... cuz prescott is going to also use hyperthreading (improved version).. tehrefore more programs will probably try and use the hyperthreading even more then before... which can only be a plus to get it..Apologist said:AMD was HELPING not being biased. If they wanted to be biased they would have left the hyperthreading on but they said it was slower. Also, that article was at more sites than just that inquirer site, I just posted it because it was a little longer. Do a search with Google and you will see.
I didn't say hyperthreading was not a good technology, it is just not being implemented yet as software needs to be written to take advantage of it.
Technology moves so fast anyhow that it will be obsolete by next year.
By the way, I live in the Silicon Valley so most of these companies are within 20 miles of me.
and most major sites i go to show that intel is better... hardocp is one along with 3dgameman and anandtech... prove me with a link if im wrong.. i personally cant provide link without enough posts...
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Why do people continue to make statements without backing up what they say? where does it say that its of no use? it improves gaming and it improves multitasking since ur computer reads it as 2 cpus and not 1 single cpu...
hardforum then go to intel section and search on hyperthreading... or hyperthreading in all the forums.. u will not find one place that says its of no use without a specific program that makes use of it... its like going to 2cpu.com forums and saying that having an SMP computer basically useless unless ur ripping dvds or using photoshop.. just watch urself get flamed
hardforum.com /showthread.php?s=&threadid=663720
cheated the link so just put it back together.. here u will see actual benchmarkings..
some links that people are referring to (including the inquirer) is probably the Xeon version of the HT.. which was the older one that didnt work very well... however the new version on prescotts and C model P4s work much better... improving performance in both gaming and raw processing speeds
here is another one from our trusted hardforum
showthread.php?s=&threadid=667887&highlight=%2Bhyperthreading
hardforum then go to intel section and search on hyperthreading... or hyperthreading in all the forums.. u will not find one place that says its of no use without a specific program that makes use of it... its like going to 2cpu.com forums and saying that having an SMP computer basically useless unless ur ripping dvds or using photoshop.. just watch urself get flamed
hardforum.com /showthread.php?s=&threadid=663720
cheated the link so just put it back together.. here u will see actual benchmarkings..
some links that people are referring to (including the inquirer) is probably the Xeon version of the HT.. which was the older one that didnt work very well... however the new version on prescotts and C model P4s work much better... improving performance in both gaming and raw processing speeds
here is another one from our trusted hardforum
showthread.php?s=&threadid=667887&highlight=%2Bhyperthreading
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The only benefit is when you are multitasking or using apps designed to take advantage of HT.[UCLA]lee0539 said:
All you have to do is show me proper benchmarks where it makes a difference in apps that aren't programmed for it, and I'll believe you.. Take for instance any older game and Windows 98. Your operating system to your programs need to be optimized to take full advantage of it.
Straight from Intel's website:
"1Look for systems with the Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology logo which your system vendor has verified utilize Hyper-Threading Technology. Performance will vary depending on the specific hardware and software you use"
http://www.intel.com/performance/
In case you don't realize what hyperthreading is, it's merely a way for the CPU to process two threads at once IF the program can see what it is and make use of it.
Intel requires an operating system optimized for HT tech
http://www.intel.com/products/ht/hyperthreading_more.htm
It also requires apps to be optimized, such as photoshop which is a multithreaded app.
"I can report that Hyper-Threading works--but only with the right combination of applications. Just because a system supports Hyper-Threading doesn't necessarily mean that you will automatically see performance gains.
Hyper-Threading boosts the performance of applications that are either multithreaded or multitasking. Very few of today's mainstream apps are multithreaded, so the best chance you have of seeing performance benefits from a Hyper-Threading-enabled system is with multitasking applications."
http://www.zdnet.com.au/reviews/computers/components/story/0,2000023499,20270038,00.htm
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