Am I your enemy

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Paul made this statement in Galatians 4:16Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

What I'm interested in is what is the truth and what do you extablish it on? And why yes I and you both have our ideas.

Paul preached the Godpel according to chapter 4.

So must we then ask what is the Gospel?

 

[ProScribe]

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[Frogster]

Galatians, the book thart hammers MJ and SDA doctrine into a coffin, where it belongs, with the old man, to whom which the law, and all it's rules were given.

 

[Sieben]

Depends.
I view many of you as enemies since we have different faiths.

I mean if you just accepted me as going to heaven, then you acknowledge my faith and vice versa. Which is something I personally don't do and don't really understand those who accept everyone who believes in God somehow. Anyways, "What is the gospel?" Isn't only one chapter or book. The New Testament was built on a foundation, the old testament laws, prophecies and psalms. Christ Jesus came to fulfill these according to Luke 24:44. I suppose then, the more you line up your understanding of the NT to how the OT is then you would come to a fuller understanding of what the gospel is. How can you know how to do things correctly if you skip the foundation? This is why I reject many common doctrines people hold, especially praying for forgiveness of sins

 

[sbvd]

Paul made this statement in Galatians 4:16Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

What I'm interested in is what is the truth and what do you extablish it on? And why yes I and you both have our ideas.

Paul preached the Godpel according to chapter 4.

So must we then ask what is the Gospel?

I do not consider anybody who disagree with me an enemy. And even if you were I am commanded by God Almighty to love you, anyway.

(Even though I don't recall you, sorry )

 

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I do not consider anybody who disagree with me an enemy. And even if you were I am commanded by God Almighty to love you, anyway.

(Even though I don't recall you, sorry )

Thanks but no thanks. I really don't care for superficial commanded love. I love the genuine article that comes from the heart and not because someone is told to do so. That kind of love is worthless. Iguess that is one of the things I love about my dogs. They love me no matter what I do to them. Of course I give them an easy meal twice a day.

 

[from scratch]

Depends.
I view many of you as enemies since we have different faiths.

How very sad. Religion stinks and does no favors for mankind.

I mean if you just accepted me as going to heaven, then you acknowledge my faith and vice versa. Which is something I personally don't do and don't really understand those who accept everyone who believes in God somehow. Anyways, "What is the gospel?" Isn't only one chapter or book. The New Testament was built on a foundation, the old testament laws, prophecies and psalms. Christ Jesus came to fulfill these according to Luke 24:44. I suppose then, the more you line up your understanding of the NT to how the OT is then you would come to a fuller understanding of what the gospel is. How can you know how to do things correctly if you skip the foundation? This is why I reject many common doctrines people hold, especially praying for forgiveness of sins

Your confession is interesting. It saddens my heart though. It illustrates a major problem with religion though. Isn't it a sin called pride? Sure one best believe what they say they follow and give alliegence to. I 've got no problem with that. Aproblem does arise because it seems quite a few folks here seem to take everything as a personal attack. I'm really only interested in batting around some doctrines. I and a good neighbor have major doctrinal issues, but we still are friendly and neighborly to each other. We even visit some.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Am I your enemy

Originally Posted by Sieben Depends.
I view many of you as enemies since we have different faiths.

Romans 11:28 According indeed the Good-Message, enemies because of ye,
according to yet the choice, beloveds because of the fathers.

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G2190 matches the Greek ἐχθρός (echthros), which occurs 32 times in 32 verses in the Greek concordance of the KJV

Last times used in NT:

NKJV) Revelation 11:5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies.
And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner.
12 And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here." And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them.

2190. echthros ech-thros' from a primary echtho (to hate); hateful (passively, odious, or actively, hostile); usually as a noun, an adversary (especially Satan):--enemy, foe.
1) hated, odious, hateful 2) hostile, hating, and opposing another a) used of men as at enmity with God by their sin 1) opposing (God) in the mind
2) a man that is hostile
3) a certain enemy
4) the hostile one
5) the devil who is the most bitter enemy of the divine government

 

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Thanks but no thanks. I really don't care for superficial commanded love. I love the genuine article that comes from the heart and not because someone is told to do so. That kind of love is worthless. Iguess that is one of the things I love about my dogs. They love me no matter what I do to them. Of course I give them an easy meal twice a day.

You had a point if God's commandments were merely commandments and nothing else, as if He would not give us the Grace necessary to love deeply.

But in any case, you aren't my enemy.

 

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You had a point if God's commandments were merely commandments and nothing else, as if He would not give us the Grace necessary to love deeply.

But in any case, you aren't my enemy.

Thank you for saying that I'm not your enemy.

I did start to respond to your other comments and decided not to. It would only cause an argument.

I will say that God created us with a free will that can exhibit love from the heart at a persons will without being told to do so.

 

[JohnRabbit]

Paul made this statement in Galatians 4:16Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

What I'm interested in is what is the truth and what do you extablish it on? And why yes I and you both have our ideas.

Paul preached the Godpel according to chapter 4.

So must we then ask what is the Gospel?

the gospel as i know, is that there is a kingdom coming to this earth to rule forever and we have a chance to be in that kingdom. however, the only way to enter is through Jesus, who is the Christ.

 

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the gospel as i know, is that there is a kingdom coming to this earth to rule forever and we have a chance to be in that kingdom. however, the only way to enter is through Jesus, who is the Christ.

So are you saying that we currently aren't part of the Kingdom of God? I'm not speaking in the sense of the kingdom now movement. I'm not speaking of the coming of the kingdom at the end of the age either. The NC covenant is now in existence per Jesus' pronouncement.

 

[Hentenza]

Paul made this statement in Galatians 4:16Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

What I'm interested in is what is the truth and what do you extablish it on? And why yes I and you both have our ideas.

Paul preached the Godpel according to chapter 4.

So must we then ask what is the Gospel?

I was thinking along similar lines the other day. The gospel is simple. Believe in what Jesus accomplished for all and trust Him. Nothing more, nothing less. However, the loaded term here is believe. Many place additional requirements on Jesus own words. If you believe in Him, and if you believe in what my church teaches, and if you believe in such and such doctrine, blah, blah, blah, ad infinitum.

Personally, I believe that all that have faith and trust in Jesus are my brother and sister. We might disagree on the finer points of theology but in God's eyes, by His gift of justification by His grace through faith in the Son, we are equally sons of God and consequently brothers and sisters. As such, we have been made a new creation subject to the conviction of the Spirit and subject to the two great commandments. We don't follow these commandments because we have a checklist or because we must but because we genuinely love Jesus. When one genuinely loves Jesus then following and obeying Him becomes second nature and as He so eloquently professes, His burden is light.

Anyway, no, no one here is my enemy. None. Even those that I so vigorously debate against.

 

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Thank you for saying that I'm not your enemy.

I did start to respond to your other comments and decided not to. It would only cause an argument.

I will say that God created us with a free will that can exhibit love from the heart at a persons will without being told to do so.

Which other comments?

 

[11822]

Love becomes second nature. Yes i agree. I think Love does come from the Lord and it slowly becomes a part of us over time as we abide in Him. But this doesn't mean that we shouldn't obey the written word when we are still maturing and fall short of fulfilling the will of God, and we are probably never so mature that we cant find something to learn and obey from the written word. And if we fall short on love due to immaturity then its good to obey the written word that says love thy neighbor as thyself by treating them the way we want treated, this is probably why its written down for us, because we should obey it when it isn't yet second nature to us. Just because the Lord is the power behind our transformation doesn't mean that we are not still obligated to obey the written word when we fall short due to our immaturity. The written word is there for us to obey until the Lord finishes His good work in us. But we should always rest in Gods forgiveness and Grace when we fail to obey. And love for the brethren means not judging one another, but the bible says that we should carefully rebuke each other in a loving and careful manner, being careful not to offend the conscience of others with our liberty.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

the gospel as i know, is that there is a kingdom coming to this earth to rule forever and we have a chance to be in that kingdom. however, the only way to enter is through Jesus, who is the Christ.

That is my view also

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

Matthew 21:43 Therefore I am saying to ye, that shall be being taken-away from ye the Kingdom of the God, and it shall be being given to a Nation doing the Fruits of it.

Luke 21:31 "Thus also ye, whenever ye may be seeing these-things becoming, ye are knowing that nigh is the Kingdom of the God."

Romans 11:28 According indeed the Good-Message, enemies because of ye,
according to yet the choice, beloveds because of the fathers.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7591195/#post58526189
Holiness Enemies of the Cross

 

[11822]

That is my view also

Mine too.

 

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Which other comments?

No thank you. I said I won't respond to them and that is what I mean. Sorry.

 

[11822]

Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

 

[sbvd]

No thank you. I said I won't respond to them and that is what I mean. Sorry.

It's that I don't remember having responded to anything you've written.