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Am I really being persecuted?

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TheDag

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In Australia recently I have heard alot of christians claim they are being persecuted. When we discuss it I often find its a case of getting equal treatment not persecution. For example alot of schools have banned scripture classes which used to be very common to have. As Australia has become more multi-cultural other religions have said if christians get to hold scripture classes we should be allowed to as well. Most schools have then basically decided its too hard so we'll have no scripture classes at all. The same christians who claim this is persecution will also be the first to complain that christianity isn't being given a fair go in other countries. I don't deny that their is persecution against christians because of their beliefs but lets make sure it is persecution and not just us wanting special treatment.
 

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I agree. There are Christians in other parts of the world who are murdered and tortured simply for being Christian. I live in the US and I hear some people refer to being called a "fundamentalist" as persecution. Being called names is a far cry from the true persecution so many believers have endured.
 
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Eh... well... it's a start. Less than 60 years ago being Christian was a proud thing to be in the U.S. Now you gotta hide your faith fearing you might offend others. Certain "fire and brimstone" preachers get ridiculed at by the ACLU or other liberal organizations because they are offending other beliefs, yet the shoe doesn't work on the other foot.

That's what is meant by persecution.
 
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Persecution is defined as harassment. What is happening right now in "religious nations" is a form of persecution. The degree is much less than places like China, North Korea, Vietnam, Saudi Arabia etc. Because of the standard interpretation of persecution it brings up connotations of torture, execution and imprisonment. Perhaps it would be better if people would say they are being harrassed. On a positive note this type of harassment promotes evaluation of our Christianity and how we need to respond to a secular world.
 
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Woe on the pitiable situation of faith full, great patriot and committed loyal Christians of Pakistan. They had paid a very high price for their faith to stay as Christian and still they are continuously paying extremely high price, these poor Christians are the part of Pakistan but they have never been accepted , its on the record that before Pakistan came into being they struggled for it and cast their decisive vote in the favour of Pakistan but woe , woe thousand times woe on the really miserable condition of Pakistani Christians , every day circumstances getting worse and worse for this helpless discriminated people, Christian persecution is going higher and higher every moment in Pakistan. Today the civilized nations are talking about Peace in middle east , Iraq, Afghanistan, Kashmir and other part of the world but this civilized nations are mute and don't think about the crucial situation of Pakistani Christians at all.

Pakistani Christians are continuously under the constant threat of life, there are discriminatory laws against them, these sincere Christian are called rebel and are spying for USA and Great Britain and other European countries. Islamic fundamentalist militant and Jihadi groups are making their life unbearable every day in Pakistan, Christians are beaten, girls are rapped and by force are converting to Islam and said now you are no more infidel because now you are under the banner of Islam, if some one refuse they are tortured , killing and kidnapping is raising day by day. It is very hard and indeed difficult to come out from Pakistan for the Christians of Pakistan, if a hand full amount of Christians could manage to come out and Apply for Asylum straight away they are refused saying this, every thing is alright in Pakistan Christians have equal rights as Muslims do, there is no problem, no discrimination at all.



They do not look that thousand of Christians are in prisons with false cases of Blasphemy and are awaiting for justice, so many lost their lives account less Christians have left their homes, parent, brothers and sisters, and love ones. These rejected and oppressed Christian have been thrown away from their home land but never been granted asylum a very few had been accepted after long time trial. But against it there are millions of Muslims have been granted asylum with forgery documents while Muslim have no problem in their countries at all. After getting asylum this Muslim are creating problem and want to do every thing according to Islamic point of view. Against it if one Christian out of thousands granted asylum, he is very humble, sincere, faith full, harmless, reliable for the country he got asylum in. International media also highlights about Islamic world not about the Christians of Pakistan. It should bring the facts into the kind notice of peace makers of the world especially Mr.. George W Bush the president of United States of America, Mr.. Tony Blair the Prime minister of United Kingdom and Mr.. Kuffi Anan Secretary General of United nations. Since September 11, 2002 the Christians of Pakistan are suffering very badly at every stage of life. Especially American war on Terror in Afghanistan and now in Iraq, unfortunately the Christians of Pakistan always been linked with America on the grounds that America is a Christian country. The hard line Jihadi militants are taking revenge from the poor and armless Christians of Pakistan.
 
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