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Am I Lying ?

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also, i am curious why are things stated so clearly like the ten commandments in one place, and left so open to interpretation in others?

Is that the ten commandments with the no cooking of a kid in its mother's milk (goat kid not human kid) or is that the other ten commandments?

The bible is not really clear on what the ten commandments are.

The bible never seems clear to me.
 
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Your theory is that God was traveling at close to C during creation week, hence billions of years objective, 6 days subjective?

Also how does an omnipresent being travel?
 
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w00t! necro-thread!

Is it true that the clocks on satellites have to be adjusted every so often to line up with earth's because of relativity or something?
Yep. Time moves faster up high because you're further away from the Earth's gravity well. When you have clocks on a stationary airport, and on two planes, one moving Eastwards, the other Westwards, they all go out of sync. This is due to the planes being high up, and due to them moving in funny ways relative to each other. Yay science!
 
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Question.

If I travel at 98% c (Speed of Light) for 24 Hours on MY clock, when I finish what I am doing is it true that it took me 24 Hours to do what I did ?
By your clock, yes, by my clock, no. Since my clock is digital and therefore superior to your analogue clock, my answer trumps yours. Thus, you're a liar. LIAR!
 
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Is that the ten commandments with the no cooking of a kid in its mother's milk (goat kid not human kid) or is that the other ten commandments?

That one is part of the Laws listed in Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. There are dozens of those.

The bible is not really clear on what the ten commandments are.

That is clear. It is the 10 commandments given to Moses in the Sinai.
The 10 Commandments are found in Exodus 20.

The other laws come later.
 
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hmm. ok, i guess id figured out what some of those were.

Remember, when interpreting any text, one of the rules is to put the text in the historical and social context. That means, in this case, understanding what was happening at the time it was written.

is the idea that 'god' wanted us to get this message, or someone(s) else's idea?

That depends on your belief. Judeo-Christians believe that Yahweh (God) inspired the authors to impart these messages. I suspect your belief is that the authors made up the message.

also, i am curious why are things stated so clearly like the ten commandments in one place, and left so open to interpretation in others?

Even the 10 Commandments are "open to interpretation". It's just that sometimes the interpretation is very clear.

However, there is some ambiguity even in the 10 Commandments. For instance, the Commandment "You will not kill" is often interpreted as taking any human life. However, the original Hebrew is "You will not murder." That's a subset of killing.

Or take the First Commandent: "You will have no other gods before me." At the time that meant the Hebrews could not worship any other gods. At the time (Exodus comes before Genesis 1 in terms of when it was written), those other gods were thought to exist. But Yahweh was the god of the Hebrews, so they were forbidden to worship any of those other gods. Today in the USA, where most of the people are Judeo-Christian, it is also interpreted as meaning don't place the desure for money, power, sex, drugs, etc. above God. The idea is that a person can make those things into "gods" for them and place them above God. The main theological argument against creationism and Biblical literalism is that it is bibliolatry: making a literal, inerrant interpretation of the Bible into a god, thus violating the First Commandment. That interpretation goes beyond the meaning at the time Exodus was written of "gods". Is it a valid interpretation, tho?

At other times, the interpretation is going to be unclear because, according to Christian belief, human authors are trying to grasp concepts and attributes of a being that is 1) not human and 2) beyond human understanding. So the inspiration is hazy, incomplete, and perhaps chaotic because their human minds cannot grasp the totality of Yahweh.

This happens also in personal experience of God. People who report such experience are very clear that "though they think their experience really is of God, it is, even at its clearest and best, only a partial, human, inadequate view of what God really is and what God is really doing."

So, when the authors of the Bible try to put down this "inadequate view" on papyrus, it is going to be vague and thus open to many possible interpretations. Which is why it is dangerous to take verses out of context. You need to put them at least in the chapter and better yet, in the book that you find them.
 
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Yep. Time moves faster up high because you're further away from the Earth's gravity well. When you have clocks on a stationary airport, and on two planes, one moving Eastwards, the other Westwards, they all go out of sync. This is due to the planes being high up, and due to them moving in funny ways relative to each other. Yay science!

Do they "suffer" from time dilation because of their motion relative to us on the ground, or from each other? (No idea what their orbital heights are nor their communications methods)
 
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Do they "suffer" from time dilation because of their motion relative to us on the ground, or from each other? (No idea what their orbital heights are nor their communications methods)
No, it's a barely perceptible change. Your clocks are delayed by a fraction of a microsecond.
 
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No, it's a barely perceptible change. Your clocks are delayed by a fraction of a microsecond.

Right. So the GR effects outstrip the SR effects, as it were.

Tangentially - microwave transition based atomic clocks need to get invented quickly.

Testing GR by inducing a time difference between two clocks by raising one clock as little as 10cm higher in earth's gravitational field with respect to the other will be SWEEEEEEEEET
 
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That one is part of the Laws listed in Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. There are dozens of those.



That is clear. It is the 10 commandments given to Moses in the Sinai.
The 10 Commandments are found in Exodus 20.

The other laws come later.

It is part of the commandments that Moses was given on Mount Sinai. The bible is clear on this. In Exodus 34.1-10 Moses instructed to go up Mount Sinai after the whole golden calf incident.

[BIBLE]
The Lord said to Moses, ‘Cut two tablets of stone like the former ones, and I will write on the tablets the words that were on the former tablets, which you broke. 2Be ready in the morning, and come up in the morning to Mount Sinai and present yourself there to me, on the top of the mountain. [/BIBLE]

He is told to write stuff down which includes the stuff about a kid and its mother's milk and they he returns back with a set of commandments which God is clear were on the former tablets.
 
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