Am I doomed?

Mountainmanbob · Mar 1, 2018

Make John the Baptist your new hero.

Repent

If you cannot do it -- pray and ask God for assistance.

Possibly one of the best prayers.
God please have mercy on me a sinner.

M-Bob

mnorian · Mar 1, 2018

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Dave G. · Mar 1, 2018

But Nathan you never did fully not believe.. I told you before that Hebrews can be confusing. Why ? Because the name of the book says who is being spoken of and to here, The Hebrews. There is a place in Galatians along the same lines, where Paul admonishes Jews who believed but asks who has deceived you, because they were falling back into Jewish traditions. In that he is clear as to who he is speaking to though, he says right up front " foolish Galatians" ! I like this term, I'm semi quoting pastor Richard Jordan who is president of Grace School Of The Bible and knows the bible inside out and backwards " the whole bible is written for you but it is not all written about you". You always need to know who is being addressed and why.

New and weak believers can really get torn up over the book of Hebrews, not a good place to start, IMO. Especially when you listen to videos from someone with weak understanding on the book himself.

Nathan Arnold · Mar 1, 2018

how must I give up my idols what may I do after I did

Dave G. · Mar 1, 2018

Nathan Arnold said:
how must I give up my idols what may I do after I did

Nathan we can have hobbies and things to do, God encourages us to work with our hands even. Here is the deal, God comes before them and is even involved in them.

I turn wood and make ornaments and wooden things all the time. I finish them so they glisten and they appear as they could be wooden idols to some I suppose. I make them mostly as gifts. But God is in this, in fact I'm considering writing verse chapters and numbers in them someplace. As I work with wood my mind flashes to God. When I tie flies for fly fishing I thank him for the natural materials available to do this. I find peace with the Lord in the things I do. As I fish I pray to God or speak to Him in my mind that after a few fish I am then going home or where ever.. I keep Him in my steps. He wants our communication. He wants us in scripture, He wants our prayers. He wants to come first in our lives. Everything trickles down from him, not from us.

Matthew 24 10 · Mar 1, 2018

Nathan Arnold said:
Listen in my childhood you can see my story basically I hated god for luck for 10 months atleast and I was basically a reprobate and everytime something bad would happen to me I'd blame god and I didnt think I could ever go TOO far because in the back of my head I knew I could be forgiven when I was about to die but now thats different am I doomed for doing those evil deeds expecting to be forgiven in the sight of god because all I did was sin I was a friend of the world had no enemies I once dabbled in christianity in the church only to learn a bit and I watched the movie son of god and I heard about hell it was scary I felt like I had a soul that it wasnt dead as it is now I JUST FEEL A BODY LITERALLY I feel nothing in my emotions I dont wanna be damned I trembled so much while reading the measurements of sin and the unpardonable sin and I keep thinking in my thoughts about committing it its in my tongue like I'm slightly tempted to but Im not going to ever not even until death how do I STOP THINKING ABOUT COMMITTING IT its on my tongue 24/7 is god just trying to kill me I know SO MUCH about the bible compared to then

You are not doomed , we can be angry at God like Jonas who tried to run away as far as he could and even after he finished what Gold told him he was still angry at God , myself sometimes i'm angry at him .

Nathan Arnold · Mar 1, 2018

you shouldnt be angry over the one who can destroy your body and soul but thankful that he keeps you alive in every second

Sam91 · Mar 1, 2018

Misunderstanding Hebrews left me unable to repent (for something minor) for 15 years! I tried and tried but could never feel forgiven. Over the years I would periodically try. I believed that even though I loved God I couldn't come back unless He called me. I knew so little really. It was self condemnation and self trying to be perfect.

Well it all changed when a Christian asked whether I still went to Church. Well, I went into my dining room, I asked the Holy Spirit to pray for me. I didn't want to lie to God, bargaining, making promises to be good. After that I opened my Bible. It opened to a parable where Jesus said. 'Your sins are forgiven, get up and walk!' I realised. I had to walk in my forgiveness. I was forgiven. I needed to trust God and accept it and just walk. I walked spiritually and physically. 50kms a week at least lol.

Well, I have learned somethings since then. One is to realise I can NOT ever deserve salvation from my own striving to be perfect. When I fail God is just and able to forgive my sins.

I quote this verse all the time. Proverbs 3:5-6 It is too instrumental. Trust in Him. He doesn't change. Our emotions and thoughts are not a reliable indicator other than it is time to sit down and pray. Look to Him, read His words and thank Him for the fact He will guide you into understanding if you just follow trustingly.

Nathan Arnold · Mar 1, 2018

sam I must warn you about the dangers of sexual immorality, it starts off innocent but grows into a tree of thorns that produces the fruit of many sins you are without excuse that is the only thing seperating you from god is the deeds of the flesh for 15 years you were 'unable to repent' you just didnt want to repent you held onto your sin god will let anyone repent that is true thats why he keeps us alive this very second because theres a chance that you'd repent of your evil deeds its not of works its grace god is a living person who sees your heart but hes god a prideful heart confident and greedy in its own abilities and not needy of god seperates

Sam91 · Mar 1, 2018

Nathan Arnold said:
sam I must warn you about the dangers of sexual immorality, it starts off innocent but grows into a tree of thorns that produces the fruit of many sins you are without excuse that is the only thing seperating you from god is the deeds of the flesh for 15 years you were 'unable to repent' you just didnt want to repent you held onto your sin god will let anyone repent that is true thats why he keeps us alive this very second because theres a chance that you'd repent of your evil deeds its not of works its grace god is a living person who sees your heart but hes god a prideful heart confident and greedy in its own abilities and not needy of god seperates

It was nicotine addiction that kept me from God

Well it wasn't. It was me thinking I was a hypocrite not being able to beat it. I needed Him to help me do it. Misunderstanding Hebrews made me think I had blown it.

I repented 21 months ago and now trust Him and not my own wisdom.

God bless you

Nathan Arnold · Mar 1, 2018

you should have tortured yourself not to take the nicotine and asked god to get rid of the attraction to it

Sam91 · Mar 1, 2018

Nathan Arnold said:
you should have tortured yourself not to take the nicotine and asked god to get rid of the attraction to it

Oh I did. I was spending full days reading his word. Screwing up, not being perfect. Each time after about three weeks and still not feeling forgiven I would give up defeated.

God even healed me miraculously one time when I testified about Him. I believed in Him all that time. Loved Him but felt unworthy.

.I had faith, but no understanding. Had some understanding and could quote so much scripture but I didn't understand that I couldn't earn salvation. That Jesus did it all. I knew it but didn't understand. I thought picking up my ceoss meant striving to be perfect. In focussing on striving, worrying etc I had my eyes off God and on myself.

I now understand that picking up my cross means coming to Him. Trusting in Him. Walking His ways, obediently through His power. Not by my efforts but through reliance on Him. He gives immense peace and joy even through the worst of times. He has taught this constantly to me over the last couple of years. With Him you can face anything and life has no real fear anymore. God is Perfect!

faroukfarouk · Mar 2, 2018

Sam91 said:
It was nicotine addiction that kept me from God

Well it wasn't. It was me thinking I was a hypocrite not being able to beat it. I needed Him to help me do it. Misunderstanding Hebrews made me think I had blown it.

I repented 21 months ago and now trust Him and not my own wisdom.

God bless you

I think you managed to quit, right?

Some ppl manage to smoke in moderation.

But in any case, it's best for ppl to get knotted up about smoking, but rather concentrate on God's Word.

Dave G. · Mar 2, 2018

Often when we give it over to Jesus, what ever "it" might be, the Holy Spirit then convicts us of that thing and we no longer want it in our lives. It was like that for me with alcohol and I didn't even drink very much.

Vicomte13 · Mar 2, 2018

Nathan Arnold said:
Am I Doomed?

Yes.

We all are.

That's the way it is, and none of us has any control over it.

The good news is that we get to wake up after your execution, and we DO have a choice in what happens next after that.

aiki · Mar 2, 2018

Nathan Arnold said:
I dont wanna be damned I trembled so much while reading the measurements of sin

And well you should. If you don't repent of your sins and receive the gift of salvation offered to you in the Saviour, Jesus Christ, you stand in jeopardy of eternal hell.

Nathan Arnold said:
I trembled so much while reading the measurements of sin and the unpardonable sin and I keep thinking in my thoughts about committing it

Your sins are terrible indeed - just as are the sins of every person - but none of your sins surprise God or exceed His depthless love and grace. "Where sin abounded, God's grace super-abounded." (Romans 5:20)

Fear often gives rise to obsessive-compulsive thinking. Instead of letting your mind settle in an obsessive-compulsive track about the unpardonable sin, why don't you fix your mind on the Person of Christ and his vast and matchless love for you? There is no greater remedy for fear than his pure, holy, and endless love. "Perfect love casts out fear," the Bible says. "He who fears has not been made perfect (or completed, or matured) in love." (1 John 4:18)

Nathan Arnold said:
is god just trying to kill me

No, He's wanting to save you (John 3:16). The Good News is that He has made a way through Jesus for you to be saved from the eternal penalty of your sin. Here's how:

1.) Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour and God. (Romans 10:9-11)
2.) Confess to him the wickedness of your life lived apart from him. (1 John 1:8-9)
3.) Repent of your former life and determine, by God's enabling grace, to live a life centered upon, and submitted to, His will and way. (Isaiah 55:7; Acts 3:19)

Iris15 · Mar 2, 2018

Nathan Arnold said:
Listen in my childhood you can see my story basically I hated god for luck for 10 months atleast and I was basically a reprobate and everytime something bad would happen to me I'd blame god and I didnt think I could ever go TOO far because in the back of my head I knew I could be forgiven when I was about to die but now thats different am I doomed for doing those evil deeds expecting to be forgiven in the sight of god because all I did was sin I was a friend of the world had no enemies I once dabbled in christianity in the church only to learn a bit and I watched the movie son of god and I heard about hell it was scary I felt like I had a soul that it wasnt dead as it is now I JUST FEEL A BODY LITERALLY I feel nothing in my emotions I dont wanna be damned I trembled so much while reading the measurements of sin and the unpardonable sin and I keep thinking in my thoughts about committing it its in my tongue like I'm slightly tempted to but Im not going to ever not even until death how do I STOP THINKING ABOUT COMMITTING IT its on my tongue 24/7 is god just trying to kill me I know SO MUCH about the bible compared to then

Iris15 · Mar 2, 2018

Nathan Arnold said:
Listen in my childhood you can see my story basically I hated god for luck for 10 months atleast and I was basically a reprobate and everytime something bad would happen to me I'd blame god and I didnt think I could ever go TOO far because in the back of my head I knew I could be forgiven when I was about to die but now thats different am I doomed for doing those evil deeds expecting to be forgiven in the sight of god because all I did was sin I was a friend of the world had no enemies I once dabbled in christianity in the church only to learn a bit and I watched the movie son of god and I heard about hell it was scary I felt like I had a soul that it wasnt dead as it is now I JUST FEEL A BODY LITERALLY I feel nothing in my emotions I dont wanna be damned I trembled so much while reading the measurements of sin and the unpardonable sin and I keep thinking in my thoughts about committing it its in my tongue like I'm slightly tempted to but Im not going to ever not even until death how do I STOP THINKING ABOUT COMMITTING IT its on my tongue 24/7 is god just trying to kill me I know SO MUCH about the bible compared to then

This sounds like an OCD problem. If you see a psychologist, ask them about cognitive behavioral therapy to help you cope with the unwanted thoughts. Otherwise, memorize a song and just think about that song over and over until your mind is thinking about something good. Or imagine a giant stop sign that signals the thinking to stop. God bless you and I hope this advice helps you a bit..

1am3laine · Mar 17, 2018

Nathan Arnold said:
Please tell me how to stop thinking about the unpardonable sin I keep thinking about it as if I say something bad then Im damned I feel like my fate is in my tongue and I feel tempted to say it how do I get rid of that temptation in totality trust me I wont commit it but please how to stop thinking about it it will literally not leave my mind

Many people start hearing blasphemous thoughts against the Holy Spirit or the unpardonable sin won't stop popping up in the mind. You actually have to PRAY it away. Plus they also call it OCD Scrupulosity.
They talk about it a lot on here under forums/recovery/mental health/OCD.

Actually MANY people have blasphemed the Holy Spirit by doing the "Blasphemy Challenge" via the rational response squad on youtube.

If your hearing blasphemous thoughts the link below can help.
The Secrets of The Gospel: How to overcome fear of Matt 12:31-32!

discipler7 · Mar 18, 2018

Nathan Arnold said:
how do I STOP THINKING ABOUT COMMITTING IT

Through knowledge.
.
Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is when someone accuses Jesus Christ of performing miracles, signs and wonders through the power of evil spirits, eg Beelzebub. JC is no longer physically present on earth performing such. So, it is no longer possible for anyone to commit this unpardonable sin.

OTOH, while suffering for their sins/evil-deeds, those who curse God/Jesus/Spirit and die will not be saved from hell, eg JOB.2:9.

When people commit sins/evil-deeds/law-breaking, bad things will happen to them on earth, as per DEUT.28:15 and 1JOHN.5:16.

When people do not believe in Jesus the Christ/Messiah, they will not be saved from hell when they leave this earth or die.(JOHN.3:16)

Ideally, people should shun evil by keeping God's Law and believe in Jesus Christ.
....... Bear in mind the Gentile Christians only have to keep the laws of Moses which are not a burden, especially morality laws, eg the Ten Commandments(EXODUS.20), DEUT.18:9-14, etc, as per ACTS.15:24-29.

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