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Am I being "led" to celibacy?

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The celibacy thread got me thinking about myself.

I've been "saving myself" all these years for a godly, childfree mate. (Yes, I know it's awesome to be a V at 33, but please hold the applause.) Even throughout my teen years, I was never a skirt-chasing ladies' man like most teenaged boys usually are, but I suspect that was due in large part to the depression and severe lack of self-esteem I experienced at the time. Do you think I'm "destined" for celibacy, or do you think God will provide me with a mate as a reward and as a way to show that He can bless us even when the deck seems to be stacked against us? :confused:
 

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I'm sorta in the same boat. I wanted to wait until marriage for obvious reasons, but didn't think I would still be single at this age. It would be nice to experience that kind of closeness to someone, someday, hopefully...
 
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A simple test.

Do you want to have a loving, fulfilling, godly relationship with a woman?
Within the context of that relationship, do you want to make whoopie?

If you answered "yes" to both of those questions, then the answer to your question is probably no. God does not give people desires for righteous things without intending that they be fulfilled.
 
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I do not believe we are 'rewarded' with a spouse. I do not believe that everyone who has the mindset for marriage gets married, nor do I believe everyone who believes they are destined for a life of celibacy remain celibate. If one makes the active choice to remain celibate, regardless of whether or not they have the urge to procreate, then they have taken on celibacy. If they do not then providing they do not become wrapped up in assuming they are destined for something which, if they perhaps stopped and thought about whether or not it is something they genuinely feel called towards rather than something they're leaning towards due to a lack of love in their life, then there is always the chance that eventually somebody will enter into your life who will be mutually attracted and a relationship will develop.
 
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Life is what you make it. If you don't like your life, go out and change it. No one is forcing you to be a monk, and I doubt God would want you to be unhappy.

Solution: Go to church, pick out a girl (over the age of 18), and marry her. Problem solved.

And a movie quote to end: "You cannot leave everything to Fate, boy. She's got a lot to do. Sometimes you must give her a hand."
 
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The celibacy thread got me thinking about myself.

I've been "saving myself" all these years for a godly, childfree mate. (Yes, I know it's awesome to be a V at 33, but please hold the applause.) Even throughout my teen years, I was never a skirt-chasing ladies' man like most teenaged boys usually are, but I suspect that was due in large part to the depression and severe lack of self-esteem I experienced at the time. Do you think I'm "destined" for celibacy, or do you think God will provide me with a mate as a reward and as a way to show that He can bless us even when the deck seems to be stacked against us? :confused:

I'm in the same boat... opposite end.

Here's my perspective-

I don't think God's called anyone to celibacy that didn't already have a desire to be celibate. That's really cruel. He placed the first man- void of depression and self esteem issues- with a wife because he knew it would help him. I don't imagine he'd do any less for you. In fact, I think this is one of those areas Satan would like to talk many people out of because he knows what a blessing it is to have- relationships, fellowships, in a deep and intimate way.

Unfortunately, our Puritanical culture puts a high demand on sex, and having or not having it. Satan would like to make you think God's withholding sex from you; but he's not. Or make you believe you've sacrificed something and therefore God owes you! Sex is freely available, but He asks you administer it in the way He knows will work out for the best and yield the best results- and I'm not talking about sex for the sake of having children, even though that is a fruit of the sexual relationship. He doesn't want to see you get hurt, just for the sake of "getting some."

Another thing, God doesn't "reward" some with mates, and others celibacy. Joining with the person God destined you for, is not a reward. It is a free gift that He gladly gives His children. But that relationship is intended to be a three-way relationship. Therefore, you could say finding the mate God intended you to have can only be found through His leading, and not your carnal sense- i.e. "Does she have kids?"

But I will add, that God is not dense when it comes to who you are in the natural. When you delight yourself in Him, He will bring you someone that you will find attractive, and top notch. Don't expect God to bring you a wife with a face you find grotesque, in the hopes that you will "grow to love her". God is the giver of good gifts, and He's not looking to humble you by bringing you something you wouldn't like. That doesn't mean you're getting Brook Shields. But as the saying goes, "You show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you the guy who's tired of *sleeping* with her."


But if faith doesn't rise up and begin to take hold of you, what God wills, and what God's intended can be thwarted. I know people don't like hearing this, because they would like to believe that God controls everything in this life. But God is not going to violate your free will, or force you to take a mate. So you either believe and receive, or doubt and go without. It just so happens, he won't set you, or anyone else, up for rejection. Remember you're not asking God to find you a mate, but bring you to the one He already selected since the foundation of the earth.

But I empathize, because self esteem is such a high priority in today's dating world, and culture; and when you're a bit of a misfit in one way or another, it's hard to imagine where this mate is going to come from. Will they see you if you're hiding in the back of the audience because you're shy? Will they be disappointed they didn't get Brad Pitt- the confident stud, who's had tons of experience, and knows how to treat a lady!? If you're seeking a mate in the carnal realm, that's a possibility. If you're seeking a mate out of your own ability, and merits, it can be devastating.

Remember, "it's the goodness of God that leads men to repentance." Not the wrath. God's not going to withhold someone until you get it together. If you could, you wouldn't need Him.

Next time you're feeling lonely, begin to praise God for His mercy, and the fact that a loving God intended for you to "know your wife" and experience a loving and tender relationship. Tell Him, you have the worst self esteem of any man, but that you esteem Christ on the inside of you more than anything.

Last thing- I know alot of people who, before they found the one God intended for them, took a vow towards celibacy. It was a desire they felt was hindering their relationship with the Lord, and they just couldn't release the pain, and desperation because they had that loneliness on the inside of them. I do believe this is apart of resting in the Lord's plan, but it doesn't have to be that way for everyone. It just so happens, some of us have had our eyes out looking, and it's caused alot of bitterness, and resentfulness towards God, and it's thrown some into self pity- "I'm getting old." But it can't be something you do in order to prove something to God, it's got to be a desire to let go of the heartbreak.

God bless.
 
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I don't think that wanting something equals out to having it later on.

People change and maybe in time your want for a wife will change. Hard to really say - but not being "smooth" with women will not specifically mean the deck is against you when it comes to meeting someone.
There are quite a few women who are not interested in guys who are full of hot air. :)
 
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I'm in the same boat... opposite end.

Here's my perspective-

I don't think God's called anyone to celibacy that didn't already have a desire to be celibate. That's really cruel. He placed the first man- void of depression and self esteem issues- with a wife because he knew it would help him. I don't imagine he'd do any less for you. In fact, I think this is one of those areas Satan would like to talk many people out of because he knows what a blessing it is to have- relationships, fellowships, in a deep and intimate way.

Unfortunately, our Puritanical culture puts a high demand on sex, and having or not having it. Satan would like to make you think God's withholding sex from you; but he's not. Or make you believe you've sacrificed something and therefore God owes you! Sex is freely available, but He asks you administer it in the way He knows will work out for the best and yield the best results- and I'm not talking about sex for the sake of having children, even though that is a fruit of the sexual relationship. He doesn't want to see you get hurt, just for the sake of "getting some."

Another thing, God doesn't "reward" some with mates, and others celibacy. Joining with the person God destined you for, is not a reward. It is a free gift that He gladly gives His children. But that relationship is intended to be a three-way relationship. Therefore, you could say finding the mate God intended you to have can only be found through His leading, and not your carnal sense- i.e. "Does she have kids?"

But I will add, that God is not dense when it comes to who you are in the natural. When you delight yourself in Him, He will bring you someone that you will find attractive, and top notch. Don't expect God to bring you a wife with a face you find grotesque, in the hopes that you will "grow to love her". God is the giver of good gifts, and He's not looking to humble you by bringing you something you wouldn't like. That doesn't mean you're getting Brook Shields. But as the saying goes, "You show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you the guy who's tired of *sleeping* with her."


But if faith doesn't rise up and begin to take hold of you, what God wills, and what God's intended can be thwarted. I know people don't like hearing this, because they would like to believe that God controls everything in this life. But God is not going to violate your free will, or force you to take a mate. So you either believe and receive, or doubt and go without. It just so happens, he won't set you, or anyone else, up for rejection. Remember you're not asking God to find you a mate, but bring you to the one He already selected since the foundation of the earth.

But I empathize, because self esteem is such a high priority in today's dating world, and culture; and when you're a bit of a misfit in one way or another, it's hard to imagine where this mate is going to come from. Will they see you if you're hiding in the back of the audience because you're shy? Will they be disappointed they didn't get Brad Pitt- the confident stud, who's had tons of experience, and knows how to treat a lady!? If you're seeking a mate in the carnal realm, that's a possibility. If you're seeking a mate out of your own ability, and merits, it can be devastating.

Remember, "it's the goodness of God that leads men to repentance." Not the wrath. God's not going to withhold someone until you get it together. If you could, you wouldn't need Him.

Next time you're feeling lonely, begin to praise God for His mercy, and the fact that a loving God intended for you to "know your wife" and experience a loving and tender relationship. Tell Him, you have the worst self esteem of any man, but that you esteem Christ on the inside of you more than anything.

Last thing- I know alot of people who, before they found the one God intended for them, took a vow towards celibacy. It was a desire they felt was hindering their relationship with the Lord, and they just couldn't release the pain, and desperation because they had that loneliness on the inside of them. I do believe this is apart of resting in the Lord's plan, but it doesn't have to be that way for everyone. It just so happens, some of us have had our eyes out looking, and it's caused alot of bitterness, and resentfulness towards God, and it's thrown some into self pity- "I'm getting old." But it can't be something you do in order to prove something to God, it's got to be a desire to let go of the heartbreak.

God bless.

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Quick comment on this thread, because I couldn't resist. I just wanted to say that I like what you've said here. I personally struggle with this very often, but it's an encouragement to think of it in this way :)
 
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Just because you're 33-years-old does not mean you're called to a life of celibacy. PLENTY of people, Christian and non-Christian, don't find their lifelong significant other until they're older. And guess what? That's OKAY. Also, plenty of people who lack in self-esteem or are dreadfully shy find spouses too.

God knows your personality, your strengths and weaknesses, afterall, He's the one who created you. So don't you think He knows to bring you together with the right person who will love you for who you are?

There isn't much I can say to help or comfort any 'loneliness' you may be feeling over having not find a spouse yet, but I can assure you...just because you've reached the age you're at and haven't married, that doesn't mean you're cut out for celibacy. Don't sweat it, dude.
 
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A simple test.

Do you want to have a loving, fulfilling, godly relationship with a woman?
Within the context of that relationship, do you want to make whoopie?

If you answered "yes" to both of those questions, then the answer to your question is probably no. God does not give people desires for righteous things without intending that they be fulfilled.

So you're saying that every single person that has ever lived with those "godly" desires has received what they wanted?
 
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The celibacy thread got me thinking about myself.

I've been "saving myself" all these years for a godly, childfree mate. (Yes, I know it's awesome to be a V at 33, but please hold the applause.) Even throughout my teen years, I was never a skirt-chasing ladies' man like most teenaged boys usually are, but I suspect that was due in large part to the depression and severe lack of self-esteem I experienced at the time. Do you think I'm "destined" for celibacy, or do you think God will provide me with a mate as a reward and as a way to show that He can bless us even when the deck seems to be stacked against us? :confused:

The fact that you have an air of dread towards celibacy in the way you are talking is probably enough proof that you are and Adam in need of an Eve. Pray that God will prepare you for your future wife and that he will grow and mature you so that you are ready for marriage.

A lot of times God keeps people from getting married because of immaturity, He's all knowing and he sees that if we were to get married in our current state we would probably cause damage and get a divorce... so he protects us from it until we are ready. We need to pray that we will become ready faster! lol :thumbsup:
 
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Another thing--

Some people teach that they have to clean up their lives and get perfect before they receive their mate. That has an element of truth to it, but not from Gods point, but ours. It's fine to want to learn how to take care of your finances, and get your relationship with God straight; but if you're doing things to earn a mate, it's going to leave a wide door open to Satan to condemn you in a lot of areas. Bitterness, envy, and criticism will take root inside you.

For instance, a person who looking for God to supply their mate but can't truly rejoice when other people find love and give respect to that because they don't believe others have measured up... A person starving for that fellowship will have difficulty receiving from God. It sounds contradictory, but it's not God who stops giving, it will be you who can't receive because you won't want receive when you're in your mess.

Gods kind of love is not based according to what you deserve. It's about getting what you don't deserve- grace.

Many people have spent their lives single because they were waiting to become someone else. They never did measure up to their own standard and therefore nobody else did either. Receive a mate because of who God is and what Jesus has done. Not because you deserve one.

I wish a lot of couples knew that, and maybe they wouldn't be so hard on their single friends, but this is something you have to get into peace about on your own. You can't take this advice from the world.
 
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Another thing--

Some people teach that they have to clean up their lives and get perfect before they receive their mate. That has an element of truth to it, but not from Gods point, but ours. It's fine to want to learn how to take care of your finances, and get your relationship with God straight; but if you're doing things to earn a mate, it's going to leave a wide door open to Satan to condemn you in a lot of areas. Bitterness, envy, and criticism will take root inside you.

For instance, a person who looking for God to supply their mate but can't truly rejoice when other people find love and give respect to that because they don't believe others have measured up... A person starving for that fellowship will have difficulty receiving from God. It sounds contradictory, but it's not God who stops giving, it will be you who can't receive because you won't want receive when you're in your mess.

Gods kind of love is not based according to what you deserve. It's about getting what you don't deserve- grace.

Many people have spent their lives single because they were waiting to become someone else. They never did measure up to their own standard and therefore nobody else did either. Receive a mate because of who God is and what Jesus has done. Not because you deserve one.

I wish a lot of couples knew that, and maybe they wouldn't be so hard on their single friends, but this is something you have to get into peace about on your own. You can't take this advice from the world.

I do like what you've said here. It can be SO HARD sometimes to feel joy for someone else's relationship success when you are feeling so utterly alone. Do you have any suggestions/tips for how to do this?
 
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I do like what you've said here. It can be SO HARD sometimes to feel joy for someone else's relationship success when you are feeling so utterly alone. Do you have any suggestions/tips for how to do this?
I don't think this is something that you wave your hand over and are instantly delivered. You never completely put away your flesh, you just learn to not go by what's in your flesh, and keep in tuned with who you are in the spirit.

Secondly, not every couple we come across, came together in God's kind of love, and are really the thing we're seeking after. I love romantic dramas, and romantic comedies. I can watch them all the time, but there are very few- if any- that really showcase God's kind of love. That doesn't mean they don't have elements of love, but many are counterfeits and cheap imitations of what God has provided for His children. Sometimes the relationships we're coveting are nothing more than a fraud- a deception of what God's kind of love is for a relationship.

One last truth- Some people believe that once they get into a relationship, once their situation has changed- they won't be lonely, depressed, etc. That's not true. Loneliness exists even within a relationship with someone. In fact it cane be very despairing to know that no one will ever fill that void. You can feel just as lost, forgotten, and ignored dating someone; and anyone who's ever been married or in a serious relationship can tell you that.
 
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