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A writer ones had the idea that all religion are the same thing

Buddism, Hinduism, etc are the same thing as Christainity and other religions. What I mean is, these religions, belong to the same god, which is God.
Except these religions represent different paths towards God.

Although Christianity seems to be the only path towards God, it is actually one of many paths. When a peson takes a step towards any religion, he seeks to express his suffering, and seeks for understanding. It is because people are failures and often do not leave to their expectations that they begin to seek a religion for relief and forgiveness. This quality then is same for all religions, because it is rooted in the same God. Only God suffers with people and give understanding to all.

Hindus do not care if there are gods or God, they only care if there is some great force out there who accepts, love and understands. Why then do we bother with the understanding of gods or God?

God is not just a powerful king, but a loving mother who loves all. If we recall, when Jesus came down to earth, he lived with outcasts, people who are remotely devoid of christianity, while he scorned the priests, who put the Rules of Christainity above all.

Look beyond the rules, the gods and God, look to what is really in God's will and the living faith of Christianity. Rules change from time to time. The rules set down by MOses certainly are not same for Christains now. There was only a relationship between God and men, and no such thing as religions. But because of human imperfection, the spread of the name of God became altered through out generations. Hence there came gods, and reincarnation. If Jesus was here today, he would help the Hindus and Buddishts, etc.
 
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Yes. If we ignore the obvious contradictions and differences between the religions, then they all are the same.

xxSuPeRMaNxx007 said:
God is not just a powerful king, but a loving mother who loves all. If we recall, when Jesus came down to earth, he lived with outcasts, people who are remotely devoid of christianity, while he scorned the priests, who put the Rules of Christainity above all.

1) He didn't scorn the priests of Israel.
2) Christianity didn't even exist.
 
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Well, of course he didnt scorn theme, just called them "hypocrites". also, I know Christianity didnt, but they were priests who knew all the rules of that God set down.

But Jesus didnt care about the rules. If the rules do not do the foundation of God's will, then they are not useful.

Don't let Christianity the theology constrain Christianity the living faith. The living faith is forever, but a theology change and is used to aid the living faith.
 
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xxSuPeRMaNxx007 said:
Well, of course he didnt scorn theme, just called them "hypocrites". also, I know Christianity didnt, but they were priests who knew all the rules of that God set down.

But Jesus didnt care about the rules. If the rules do not do the foundation of God's will, then they are not useful.

Don't let Christianity the theology constrain Christianity the living faith. The living faith is forever, but a theology change and is used to aid the living faith.

The ancient law of the Hebrews had been severely perverted by the Pharisees and Sadducees, whom were the ruling class of Israel. These were the equivalent of what Priests are today, but much more, too. In Israel, these were the people with all the money, and they wrote their own laws, and then exempted themselves from them. It would be as if The United States Congress passed laws, and then said they themselves weren't bound by them, but everyone else was. And what's more, if you don't follow the law, you are kicked out of the country.

In Israel, the Pharisees and Saducees justified themselves doing whatever they felt like doing, which allowed them to become very wealthy, and then condemning other people when they tried to do the exact same thing.

That is why Jesus condemned them. He called them an accursed brood of vipers, because they justified their own sin, while condemning the sin of others, and they weren't even aware of what they were doing.

Jesus makes it clear, if you justify yourself while condemning others, but you are aware you do this, there is hope for you. If you are not even aware that you do this, then there is no hope for you. Jesus came to bring hope and salvation to the meek and humble of heart. In fact, there is a prayer, "Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like your heart".

:amen:
 
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xxSuPeRMaNxx007 said:
Well, of course he didnt scorn theme, just called them "hypocrites". also, I know Christianity didnt, but they were priests who knew all the rules of that God set down.

But Jesus didnt care about the rules. If the rules do not do the foundation of God's will, then they are not useful.

Don't let Christianity the theology constrain Christianity the living faith. The living faith is forever, but a theology change and is used to aid the living faith.

Only Levites were priests, and not all Pharisees were Levites. And if you knew Christianity didn't exist, then you shouldn't have mentioned it. You should have mentioned what did exist. It makes it look as though you don't know what you're talking about.
 
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It is only in Christianity that one prophet declares that he is God. It is on Christ's claim that Christianity is founded.
Personally, I think that Christianity-the formal structure of the religion-is just the outer shell of the essence of Christianity-relationship with God through/because of/ the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. This 'relationship' is the 'true religion
 
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jasperbound said:
Only Levites were priests, and not all Pharisees were Levites. And if you knew Christianity didn't exist, then you shouldn't have mentioned it. You should have mentioned what did exist. It makes it look as though you don't know what you're talking about.

Nope, by Jesus time, mostly the Saducees were the priests, the levites being minor priests in the Temple.
 
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xxSuPeRMaNxx007 said:
A writer ones had the idea that all religion are the same thing

Buddism, Hinduism, etc are the same thing as Christainity and other religions. What I mean is, these religions, belong to the same god, which is God.
Except these religions represent different paths towards God.

Although Christianity seems to be the only path towards God, it is actually one of many paths. When a peson takes a step towards any religion, he seeks to express his suffering, and seeks for understanding. It is because people are failures and often do not leave to their expectations that they begin to seek a religion for relief and forgiveness. This quality then is same for all religions, because it is rooted in the same God. Only God suffers with people and give understanding to all.

Hindus do not care if there are gods or God, they only care if there is some great force out there who accepts, love and understands. Why then do we bother with the understanding of gods or God?

God is not just a powerful king, but a loving mother who loves all. If we recall, when Jesus came down to earth, he lived with outcasts, people who are remotely devoid of christianity, while he scorned the priests, who put the Rules of Christainity above all.

Look beyond the rules, the gods and God, look to what is really in God's will and the living faith of Christianity. Rules change from time to time. The rules set down by MOses certainly are not same for Christains now. There was only a relationship between God and men, and no such thing as religions. But because of human imperfection, the spread of the name of God became altered through out generations. Hence there came gods, and reincarnation. If Jesus was here today, he would help the Hindus and Buddishts, etc.

Christianity has the unique feature that it allows sin to actually leave the world, and go to Jesus, thereby allowing healing to take place. Jesus died for our sins. That means what other do to sin against us can't hurt us. We can reflect back love and forgiveness, denying the instincts of the flesh to strike back, while still protecting ourselves with Jesus Love.

There is a neurotransmitter called dopamine. When dopamine enters nerve synapses, or junctions, feelings of reward are the result. Feelings of reward are love, peace, joy, sense of well being, and sense of accomplishment. Emotional pain interferes with reward feelings because it causes a chemical, which destroys dopamine to be created in the body. The only way to get rid of this chemical, called a neuropeptidase enzyme, is to really, truly forgive.

All other methods cause a short burst of dopamine release, causing a feeling of reward, followed by a plunge in dopamine levels, causing what we call guilt. This is because everything which triggers dopamine release, except Jesus, is a sin. Some of the things which cause temporary increases in dopamine levels are as follows: Ingestion of chemicals such as opiate narcotics, amphetamine, ethyl, or beverage alcohol, and every other addictive substance; psychopathic violence such as the notion of equating all religions (the amount of carnage that belief would cause is incalculable), gratification of lust, stealing, gambling, etc. All of these things will temporarily raise dopamine levels, with an ensuing plunge shortly afterwards.

Whether it is by sin, or Jesus that you get dopamine, it is addictive. People are constantly, from little kids on, falling either into patterns of sin, or belief in Jesus. Those are the two choices. There is even Christianity which causes an artificial high, followed by a plunge in dopamine levels. This is extremely effective for controlling people. These people are only high on dopamine when they are doing something involved with church.

Real, true Christianity has no such limitation because the doctrine is true. Trying to grasp all that the Bible means, and then putting God into a little Bible shaped box is only an attempt to make God in our own image. The Bible cannot contain God any more than your house could contain the sun. Scripture is a path to God, but few, if any, find God through it.

There are inumerable pitfalls along the way, which are open graves people put in the path for you to fall into. Then you get stuck. An incomplete, incoherent, misguided, sinister, or oppressed doctrine will result in falling short of the narrow door. When you finally do get to the narrow door, you really have to bang on it hard for God to let you in. These are post apocalyptic times we live in, and Jesus might not come back until after the year 3000.

You either get your dopamine from Jesus, or the devil. But, the devil bites back, whereas Jesus is perfect. The devil waits until you are well deceived before allowing any consequences to fall on you. Satan will give you everything you need to keep sinning, until it is time to collect your soul. Then you can't get the dopamine, even with sin. You fail to get any feelings of reward for the sins which once seemed like the right thing to do. But, the deception you had to throw over yourself to get away from the guilt now holds you prisoner.

You can call out to Jesus, and He will hear you, but your heart will be hardened by sin and you won't be able to receive His Love. That is why sinners need to listen to Christians. A hardened sinner can't fully feel Jesus right away. It takes some time and care for Jesus to break through. Jesus doesn't want to hurt people, and with severely deceived people, shining the light on all that deceit could cause the person to go into shock and die. It has to be done slowly. That is why you see a lot of people defending sin. They need their dopamine fix, so they have to defend how they get it to stop guilt.

Sodomites are among the most adept at this. Sodomy causes a huge rush of dopamine, followed by a huge plunge. This causes nagging feelings of guilt. Sodomites believe if everyone thinks sodomy is ok, then they won't feel guilty anymore. They currently use the government, which forces children of holy unions to attend public schools, to pass on the sodomite culture. This is actually the whole purpose of public schools. They are for cultures of death to pass on their sin to children, because people who belong to cultures of death have no children to pass that on to.

So, there is science to theology after all. I have about 300 research papers as references. I can't post them all here, because I wouldn't have enough space. But, if you have an education in chemistry and biology, and would like a list of these references to do your own research, I can put the reference list in a file and email it.

:amen:
 
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graysparrow said:
Nope, by Jesus time, mostly the Saducees were the priests, the levites being minor priests in the Temple.

Can you show me something where it shows that the Saduccees were the priests and that these priests were also not Levites?
 
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There are of course seeds of the Word in many religions. God reveals Himself to all mankind (Rom 1:20-22) and certainly there are aspects of Christianity in almost any religion you can think of - making dialogue possible, see:Nostra Aetate - .

There are of course, many ways to the Mistery, many ways to discover there is the BIG MISTERIC ONE beyond this world and yet indwelt in this world, there are many ways to trascendence. A cave, the beauty of a sunrise (Heavens proclaims...), the eyes of the poor (Confer: Levinas and Mathew 25:40), the proximity of death... They all can bring you close to God, in my opinion - however - is the meeting with people who suffer that can bring you closer.

Yet, then, you are alone, as a little child who is just discovering the world. It is not surprising that people, 'smalled' wholly by the Mistery, feel horrified, and hence worship terrible god/s that they have to appease - and this happens even in Christianity (Ecclesia Semper Reformanda) - or feel so abrumated by the Mistery they forget everything else...

The prefered method for God to reveal have been through a community: the people of Israel and, in the later times, through the Church universal (ie all the believers) who transmit the Word of God which He inscribed in the hearts of the holy writers who, in turn, inspired by the Holy Spirit and moved by him, as well as they could, limited by their own culture and knowledge (and powered by it in the same way, we in the XXI century are not the best) wrote the Bible.

Moreover, God Himself, humbled Himself to be one of us in everything but sin, preached to us directly and patentienly and brought us the message that God is Love. Then he submitted Himself to our sins - he let us to insult him, judge him and crucify him - taking our sins to the cross, bearing our faults, He made the only sacrifice that could be meaningful and opened the ultimate way to the Father.

The road to God starts in the Cross, pass through the empty tomb and goes up to heaven. That road is Christ, resurrected and yet still present in the poor and the little ones (again see Mathew 25) and ends in the Father. In that road we are not alone, our brothers and sisters in Christ walk with us, guided by the Holy Spirit who Jesus sent to us as the ultimate comforter.

Now religion comes from link: ie the link between man and the Mistery. What takes Christianity out from any other religion in the world is that, that link is no sacrifice, book (even the Bible!), tradition, rite or whatever but Christ Himself.

:amen:
 
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jasperbound said:
Can you show me something where it shows that the Saduccees were the priests and that these priests were also not Levites?

The levites were indeed priests, but of minor rank. There are some parts of Israel history missing in the Bible: from the Maccabean revolt to the conquest of Israel by Rome. (and in you don't recognise the deuterocannonical not even the Maccabean revolt). We have some extra biblical sources, though

http://www.livius.org/saa-san/sadducees/sadducees.html
 
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I suppose if they were all the same, the Apostle Paul would have skipped trying to get the Judeans to believe and change to Christianity.

And in Corinth, if those who were "of Apollos" were the same as the other Christians, Paul would not have cared to have them switch to focusing on what he was teaching.
 
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xxSuPeRMaNxx007 said:
Buddism, Hinduism, etc are the same thing as Christainity and other religions. What I mean is, these religions, belong to the same god, which is God.

Hmm...Hinduism advocates a plurality of gods. It is polytheistic. Christianity asserts a monotheistic faith...that there is only ONE God.

A contradition cannot exist one and the same time.

How can the "Christian" God be the same "god" as the Hindus...?

The Christian dogma teaches the singularity of God, and that only through Christ can we find our Creator. NONE ELSE.
 
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graysparrow said:
The levites were indeed priests, but of minor rank. There are some parts of Israel history missing in the Bible: from the Maccabean revolt to the conquest of Israel by Rome. (and in you don't recognise the deuterocannonical not even the Maccabean revolt). We have some extra biblical sources, though

http://www.livius.org/saa-san/sadducees/sadducees.html

It still seems that the Sadducees were Levites though, because Zadok was a Levite, and they claim to be descendants of him.
 
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Although Christianity seems to be the only path towards God, it is actually one of many paths. When a person takes a step towards any religion, he seeks to express his suffering, and seeks for understanding. It is because people are failures and often do not leave to their expectations that they begin to seek a religion for relief and forgiveness. This quality then is same for all religions, because it is rooted in the same God. Only God suffers with people and give understanding to all.

I know of no one that came to Christ simply because they felt inadequate.



Hindus do not care if there are gods or God, they only care if there is some great force out there who accepts, love and understands. Why then do we bother with the understanding of gods or God?

Hindus make claims that they cannot produce evidence of. The claims of the ancient Hebrews are backed by evidence.




God is not just a powerful king, but a loving mother who loves all. If we recall, when Jesus came down to earth, he lived with outcasts, people who are remotely devoid of christianity, while he scorned the priests, who put the Rules of Christainity above all.

We Christians believe that everyone's soul is at stake, so please produce the evidence that proves that God is not just a powerful king, but also is a loving mother.



Look beyond the rules, the gods and God, look to what is really in God's will and the living faith of Christianity. Rules change from time to time. The rules set down by MOses certainly are not same for Christains now. There was only a relationship between God and men, and no such thing as religions. But because of human imperfection, the spread of the name of God became altered through out generations. Hence there came gods, and reincarnation. If Jesus was here today, he would help the Hindus and Buddishts, etc.

Please produce the evidence to back your claim that there was only relationship between God and men. Also, the evidence that humans are 'imperfect' and that at one time there existed only a relationship between some human/s and God.
 
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