Aliens, creation and evolution

[dad]

All things that were made, including any aliens were made by Christ. No evolution involved.

In this universe, there are no aliens that evolved or exist that do not know Jesus. The culture of aliens that has grown up over the years is at least partially disinformation, and also ignorance and fear of the unknown I would think.

Add to that Satan will fall to earth with his folks and some explanation will be needed other than the truth for where they came from and why. It seems the prime directive of the dark side is to keep Christ out of the picture at any cost.

I met a man years ago who claimed he knew what aliens really were. He couldn't tell me he claimed, because he was under some kind of orders not to talk about it, at threat of death apparently. Maybe he was just a crackpot, but he looked and seemed quite serious.

Anyhow, the fable that aliens exist in our universe independently because of some separate evolution over time is an outright lie.


Relax.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

All things that were made, including any aliens were made by Christ. No evolution involved.

In this universe, there are no aliens that evolved or exist that do not know Jesus. The culture of aliens that has grown up over the years is at least partially disinformation, and also ignorance and fear of the unknown I would think.

Add to that Satan will fall to earth with his folks and some explanation will be needed other than the truth for where they came from and why. It seems the prime directive of the dark side is to keep Christ out of the picture at any cost.

I met a man years ago who claimed he knew what aliens really were. He couldn't tell me he claimed, because he was under some kind of orders not to talk about it, at threat of death apparently. Maybe he was just a crackpot, but he looked and seemed quite serious.

Anyhow, the fable that aliens exist in our universe independently because of some separate evolution over time is an outright lie.


Relax.

Apparently they're (aliens) not that good at solving our mathematical and scientific riddles.
Apparently said deity and co. haven't been that much good at it either -- though I believe the Genesis story might have intuited some details of our biological beginnings.

I'd ask the Oracle, but Neo's in there now.

 

[Oafman]

Hang on dad, we haven't even found them yet! It feels like you are trying to get your excuses in early.

So, if they're out there, and if one day we do make some sort of contact, and we ask them if they 'know Jesus', and they answer that they do not, can we expect a major climb down on your part? Not holding my breathe.

Closer to home, we could ask recently-contacted Amazonian tribes if they 'know Jesus'. If they don't, then why would the aliens? (by the way, we have already asked them, and they don't!).

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Hang on dad, we haven't even found them yet! It feels like you are trying to get your excuses in early.

So, if they're out there, and if one day we do make some sort of contact, and we ask them if they 'know Jesus', and they answer that they do not, can we expect a major climb down on your part? Not holding my breathe.

Closer to home, we could ask recently-contacted Amazonian tribes if they 'know Jesus'. If they don't, then why would the aliens? (by the way, we have already asked them, and they don't!).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK2u4y7J58I

Knowing Jesus isn't as easy as knowing some sort of nature spirit/s -- the little light that shines in the fire place at Frankenstein's place is aboot all you'd get -- unless there had been a sizable revelation on St. Pat's Day.*

~~~
* Biography of St Patrick, Bishop

 

[Ophiolite]

All things that were made, including any aliens were made by Christ. No evolution involved.

In this universe, there are no aliens that evolved or exist that do not know Jesus. The culture of aliens that has grown up over the years is at least partially disinformation, and also ignorance and fear of the unknown I would think.

Add to that Satan will fall to earth with his folks and some explanation will be needed other than the truth for where they came from and why. It seems the prime directive of the dark side is to keep Christ out of the picture at any cost.

I met a man years ago who claimed he knew what aliens really were. He couldn't tell me he claimed, because he was under some kind of orders not to talk about it, at threat of death apparently. Maybe he was just a crackpot, but he looked and seemed quite serious.

Anyhow, the fable that aliens exist in our universe independently because of some separate evolution over time is an outright lie.


Relax.

I do wonder how it must feel to have ones entire belief system based upon myth and imagination and wholly devoid of verifiable fact. It especially amazes me to see that present in someone, like yourself, who does not appear to completely lacking reasoning capacity. Have you ever thought of using it?

 

[Split Rock]

All things that were made, including any aliens were made by Christ. No evolution involved.

So, you already "know" (ha,ha) that aliens we haven't even discovered yet, were made by your god, and didn't evolve. Wow. You are good, dad.

In this universe, there are no aliens that evolved or exist that do not know Jesus. The culture of aliens that has grown up over the years is at least partially disinformation, and also ignorance and fear of the unknown I would think.

How many of these aliens do you know, dad? This is even more bizarre a statement for you to make considering there are many humans on earth who do not know Jesus as you claim.

Add to that Satan will fall to earth with his folks and some explanation will be needed other than the truth for where they came from and why. It seems the prime directive of the dark side is to keep Christ out of the picture at any cost.

So, now you are advocating the existence of The Force?

I met a man years ago who claimed he knew what aliens really were. He couldn't tell me he claimed, because he was under some kind of orders not to talk about it, at threat of death apparently. Maybe he was just a crackpot, but he looked and seemed quite serious.

Yeah dad... he was just a crackpot. I'm surprised you didn't recognize him as such.

Anyhow, the fable that aliens exist in our universe independently because of some separate evolution over time is an outright lie.

There is speculation on this, but nothing more.

 

[Split Rock]

I do wonder how it must feel to have ones entire belief system based upon myth and imagination and wholly devoid of verifiable fact. It especially amazes me to see that present in someone, like yourself, who does not appear to completely lacking reasoning capacity. Have you ever thought of using it?

He uses his reasoning to convince himself that the Bible supports all his own weird notions. Thus dad's ideas are "what the Bible tells us."

 

[AV1611VET]

Maybe he was just a crackpot, but he looked and seemed quite serious.

Probably been listening to Art Bell too long.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Wouldn't aliens not have original sin? All the bible mentions is humans needing salvation, last time I checked, Jesus didn't die on the cross for chimpanzees, dolphins, or any other creature with a degree of sentience. Why would he be relevant to aliens?

 

[dad]

Apparently they're (aliens) not that good at solving our mathematical and scientific riddles.

How would you know? You asked one?

Apparently said deity and co. haven't been that much good at it either --

Is that your way of not saying Jesus?

 

[dad]

Hang on dad, we haven't even found them yet! It feels like you are trying to get your excuses in early.

Consider it like a vaccine. Build up your immunity to the coming lies.

So, if they're out there, and if one day we do make some sort of contact, and we ask them if they 'know Jesus', and they answer that they do not, can we expect a major climb down on your part? Not holding my breathe.

If they exist they know Him. He created them. I suspect any 'aliens would not be from our universe, because this universe is going bye bye soon. God would not create aliens to destroy their universe.

Closer to home, we could ask recently-contacted Amazonian tribes if they 'know Jesus'. If they don't, then why would the aliens? (by the way, we have already asked them, and they don't!).

Jesus gave us a job to preach the gospel, so that means it was not known here. That moots your point. Even the angels will get in on preaching before the end. The word is going to get around.

 

[dad]

I do wonder how it must feel to have ones entire belief system based upon myth and imagination and wholly devoid of verifiable fact.

Me too. I look at evolutionists and that is the thing that inevitably comes to mind.

Thankfully history is full of proofs for Scripture. The evos should come over to the well grounded, and sane side.

It especially amazes me to see that present in someone, like yourself, who does not appear to completely lacking reasoning capacity. Have you ever thought of using it?

Yes. I want to use it against lies.

 

[dad]

Probably been listening to Art Bell too long.

Could be. But this was before Art Bell! Besides when you meet someone you can tell things about them. This guy if I recall seemed genuinely scared to talk. There was no way to pry it out of him.

The NSA and other folks make people swear secrecy under threat of serious jail time if I heard correctly. Look at Snowden. The military also has rules about important secrets no doubt.

The guy I met wanted me to guess. He said he couldn't tell me, but if I guessed it he would sort of let me know if I was right or at least warm sort of thing. I tried a few guesses..I can't recall what they were. Probably the UFO were angels or military craft etc...he said no.

 

[dad]

So, you already "know" (ha,ha) that aliens we haven't even discovered yet, were made by your god, and didn't evolve. Wow. You are good, dad.

Right, if there were any they were created by God. I suspect they may be fallen angels myself. They were created by God of course. Don't think they would tell you that though!

How many of these aliens do you know, dad?

None.

This is even more bizarre a statement for you to make considering there are many humans on earth who do not know Jesus as you claim.

Other humans know they were created even if some men supposedly don't. In the case of any aliens, if they did exist they would be created by God of course also.

So, now you are advocating the existence of The Force?

If you mean the dark side...that is the fallen spirits loyal to Satan.

Yeah dad... he was just a crackpot. I'm surprised you didn't recognize him as such.

I am not so quick to judge apparently. Especially when a person seems intelligent, and well heeled, and genuine. Normally at that time anyone who mentioned aliens I would have been inclined to think they were nuts. This guy had me guessing and not knowing.

There is speculation on this, but nothing more.

I would say that it is more. I see it in movie after movie and we even see science folks claiming we will discover alien intelligence and whatnot. Heck, Hawking wants to bail out of planet earth if I recall..no?



" World renowned scientist Stephen Hawking believes extraterrestrial life almost certainly exists -- and humans should be extremely cautious about interacting with it."To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational," Hawking says in a new Discovery Channel series called Stephen Hawking's Universe. "The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/25/stephen-hawking-aliens_n_551035.html

 

[Ophiolite]

Me too. I look at evolutionists and that is the thing that inevitably comes to mind.

Thankfully history is full of proofs for Scripture. The evos should come over to the well grounded, and sane side.

You have no facts, only fantasy. It would be amusing if it were not so sad. Why don't you offer just one of your facts for analysis?

 

[dad]

Wouldn't aliens not have original sin?

No. Not if they are fallen angels.

All the bible mentions is humans needing salvation, last time I checked, Jesus didn't die on the cross for chimpanzees, dolphins, or any other creature with a degree of sentience. Why would he be relevant to aliens?

It would be relevant because Jesus is the creator of all things. Not that demons can be saved as man can.

 

[dad]

You have no facts, only fantasy. It would be amusing if it were not so sad. Why don't you offer just one of your facts for analysis?

The facts of Scripture are already analyzed-- done deal. It is just a matter of belief or unbelief now.

 

[SLP]

All things that were made, including any aliens were made by Christ. No evolution involved.

Question begging and unsupported assertions.

Strike one.

In this universe, there are no aliens that evolved or exist that do not know Jesus.

More question begging plus and unknowable claim. strike two.

The culture of aliens that has grown up over the years is at least partially disinformation, and also ignorance and fear of the unknown I would think.

Which is how religion started and thrives to this day.

Add to that Satan will fall to earth with his folks and some explanation will be needed other than the truth for where they came from and why.

Question begging. strike three.

Nothing to see here, folks.

 

[bhsmte]

The facts of Scripture are already analyzed-- done deal. It is just a matter of belief or unbelief now.

Ok, I don't believe scripture is credible. Now what?

 

[SLP]

The facts of Scripture are already analyzed-- done deal. It is just a matter of belief or unbelief now.

Really? So what did the analysis of Leviticus 19:19 turn up? Is it factual?