Alex Jones: Christian Defending Constitution

[Nazaroo]

Every Christian may not agree with Jones about every point he makes, but Americans need to consider the issues he raises in his public speeches.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=969028729334963658&q=alex+jones&pl=true

 

[imind]

Every Christian may not agree with Jones about every point he makes, but Americans need to consider the issues he raises in his public speeches.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=969028729334963658&q=alex+jones&pl=true

the video won't play on my browser. what points should we consider?

 

[Nazaroo]

Some points worth considering are:

That the Patriot Act and other newer proposed legislation is rapidly eroding the rights of Americans under the Constitution of the USA.

If these exaggerated 'police powers' aren't brought back down to sensible levels, a point will be reached where Americans *won't* even be able to restore the American Republic to a free and democratic society.

 

[Your Neighbor]

Where does Alex Jones "go to Church"? Does anyone know?

 

[applepowerpc]

Alex Jones: today's lunatic, tomorrow's leader. That pretty much describes him. He's not the first.

 

[billwald]

alex jones can be researched on

www.coasttocoastam.com

He generally makes good sense.

 

[imind]

That the Patriot Act and other newer proposed legislation is rapidly eroding the rights of Americans under the Constitution of the USA.

much agreed, and i'll be looking for a player to view this.

thanks for linky.

 

[applepowerpc]

Not just the legislation--all three branches are eroding rights! Judicial in particular.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

Alex Jones is a true patriot, in my opinion.

He's right. Everything going on in the world today is designed by the beast. Bush is promoting this NEW WORLD ORDER.

Bush's derilect of duty to seal the border is about allowing millions of people, hostile and unable to assimilate, so as to dilute the culture, our will, so that it will be ripe for future global government. To lessen the resistance and the resolve of the majority of America's people.

Bush is promoting "free trade" policies to gut the American middle class.

Bush is promoting the FTAA (Free Trade Area of the Americas), an anti-American, American destroying pact with all the nations in the Americas.

Bush is promoting a North American Union, a merger of the United States, Canada, and Mexico, whereby our economies and travel between countries will be merged. The death of America.

Bush is a GLOBALIST, One Worlder. He is not for America.

Other opinions I have:

1) 911 was orchestrated by the Globalist to get into place the impetus that will get people behind the "War on Terror", which will allow the Globalists, making use of the American Military, to take out rogue nations resistant to a coming one world order.

 

[applepowerpc]

My wife is listening to Alex Jones every day. He doesn't put this on the web site--otherwise the censorists would come along--but I understand yesterday he was saying how a slim majority of members of his administration are in fact Israeli dual citizens. This caught me by surprise. It's no surprise that SOME high-ranking administration members are Israeli dual citizens (Joe Lieberman is, for example), and it's no secret that neoconservatives dominate the administration. Neoconservatives are not conservative at all. They're marxist. But--Israeli dual citizens??? Where do our government's loyalties lie? I don't think dual citizenship of ANY country should be allowed among any federal elected officials. We wouldn't have allowed Russian dual citizens during the Cold War (if the public knew about it, at least). Why now?

 

[gts]

Alex Jones puts forth many truthful concerns about the world in which we live in. However, he is a Hollywood insider. He associates himself with likes of Joe Rogan and Charlie Sheen.

Take the time to go to ‘sacred cow dot com’. Sacred Cow productions is the name his film company. I don’t know too many Christians who think cows are sacred. View some videos there and you’ll see an interesting side of Alex Jones..

Also, he is an Honorary Member of the RSICC. If you go to RSICC dot org, scroll down and click on the link entitled “role of Jesus Christ’, you’ll find that this “scripture” is used as a reference at the top of the page:

Behold, this is a choice land, and whatsoever nation shall possess it shall be free from bondage, and from captivity, and from all other nations under heaven, if they will but serve the God of the land, who is Jesus Christ. – Ether 2:12

This is from the Book of Mormon. If you know anything about Mormonism then you probably understand my concern.

Type these words into google, "Alex Jones Honorary Member."

After reading the “Role of Jesus Christ”, take a look at the “16 Principals of the RSICC.”

Also, I have been a member of prisonplanet and have a copy of every film he has made. In one called, “Wake up or Waco,” he makes comment about being self-righteous. Christians are not self-righteous, but rather righteous through Jesus.

I think that Alex is a disinformation pawn. He has a useful website that a lot of truth can be obtained; however his tactics do not fall in line with that of a practicing believers in Christ. Alex is not gentle or compassionate, bur rather aggressive. He is useful for the enemies of God because he makes people who believe along the lines of a conspiracy against God look like “conspiracy theorist nutcases.”

I would suggest using discernment when studying the material he presents. Also, use the information to reinforce the Christian belief that the enemies of our Lord have been working diligently for generations to built the antichrist kingdom. Just realize guys like Alex are allowed to reach the pinnacle they do by using enough truth to make good lies.

 

[NHB_MMA]

alex jones can be researched on

www.coasttocoastam.com

He generally makes good sense.

Yes, although I work late and often listen to Coast To Coast and, let me tell ya, that show is loaded with nutjobs.

 

[NHB_MMA]

Alex Jones is a true patriot, in my opinion.

I agree 100%. I don't agree with everything Alex Jones has ever said, but he really digs to put forth the interesting questions and the amount of documentation he puts forth to tell you where he gets his info is amazing. Just asking the hard questions does us all a service.

Other opinions I have:

1) 911 was orchestrated by the Globalist to get into place the impetus that will get people behind the "War on Terror", which will allow the Globalists, making use of the American Military, to take out rogue nations resistant to a coming one world order.

My own personal idea I haven't heard anyone else say is I believe that Y2K was government disinformation, so the empty suits could say "Look how wrong those right-wing nuts were before" and discredit those that question.

 

[NHB_MMA]

Alex Jones puts forth many truthful concerns about the world in which we live in. However, he is a Hollywood insider. He associates himself with likes of Joe Rogan and Charlie Sheen.

There is something to be said here. I was listening to Rogan during a UFC and on some other show and he has some outrageous viewpoints on some things. And Sheen is somewhat of a suspect character too.

I think that Alex is a disinformation pawn.

I don't really think he is a disinformation pawn. He certainly has been wrong on some things and he may be looking for his moment in the spotlight, but he provides some good info and I don't think he is being played by anything larger.

 

[NHB_MMA]

Neoconservatives are not conservative at all. They're marxist.

AMEN!!! Even the USSR had its elitists and it's amazing to me how they're trying to take the American Dream away from us.

 

[applepowerpc]

He has a useful website that a lot of truth can be obtained; however his tactics do not fall in line with that of a practicing believers in Christ. Alex is not gentle or compassionate, bur rather aggressive.

There is nothing wrong with being aggressive in God's kingdom. We are all different parts of the body. Some are aggressive in character, and they use it for His glory. Paul was one such guy.

 

[gts]

There is nothing wrong with being aggressive in God's kingdom. We are all different parts of the body. Some are aggressive in character, and they use it for His glory. Paul was one such guy.

I disagree, as christians we are to approach all issues in this life with gentleness and love. Paul used this approach. He was considered a man of tremendius zeal and many have labled him a radical. However, when considering what the New Testament reveals about Paul, and then comparing it to the behavioral approach that Alex uses regularly, I have difficulty associating them in the same context.

 

[Nazaroo]

Well, here's another good question that the fellow on RENSE poses:

Text and picture taken from: http://www.rense.com/general70/southt.htm

I want to see an explanation from the US Government how this column got cut
(thermite cutter charge) - and they claim the burning jet fuel delivered by the wily
Arabs in a 767 did the deed.

That is not evidence of a structural sheer or cutting torch. There are very few things
that will melt steel like that. I am referring to the column right above the fireman's
head.
Yes, it is time for a Grand Jury.
Best regards,
Karl

what are they talking about? This:

As for the point Elisha and I were making: no steel-framed building in history has ever collapsed because of fire-sustained damages. This happened three times on 9/11. The official reason for the collapse of the the three buildings in NY that day was that fire, combined with the fuel from the airplanes melted the steel framework of the building, causing it to collapse.

Sounds reasonable enough. However, a growing number of knowledgeable people like Stephen Jones, a physics professor at BYU, have pointed out that that the buildings could not possibly have collapsed as described in the 9/11 commission report. Burning diesel can't produce enough heat to melt steel, so it certainly can't evaporate it, but thermite can.

Molten steel was found “three, four, and five weeks later, when the rubble was being removed [from WTCs 1 & 2],” Loizeaux said. He said molten steel was also found at 7 WTC, which collapsed mysteriously in the late afternoon. [American Free Press]

Molten steel is a by-product of a thermite reaction.

Wired New York reported "steel members in the debris pile that appear to have been partly evaporated in extraordinarily high temperatures".

"It looks like thermite with sulfur added, which really is a very clever idea," according to Steven Jones. The government requires standard explosives to contain tag elements enabling them to be traced back to their manufacturers. But no tags are required in aluminum and iron oxide, the materials used to make thermite, he said. Nor, he said, are tags required in sulfur." (more on thermite here)

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I found a nice, thirteen minute video by MIT engineer and research scientist, Jeff King. He details how the official government story violates the laws of physics and chemistry. He goes on to explain how the subsequent government investigations were designed NOT to uncover what happened. He also provides insight into what most likely happened that day.

Link to Google Video.

How about a lecture by BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones, who founded the group, Scholars for 9/11 Truth. I'm sure he knows nothing about physics.

Or a lecture by MIT engineer and research scientist, Jeff King. I'm sure he knows nothing about structural engineering.

Or the engineer who designed and built the world trade centers.

Here are a few other people who reject the "official" version of what happened on 9/11:
- Judy Wood (FM) Mechanical Engineering, Clemson University
- Robert M. Bowman (FM) Former Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" Space Defense Program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, and a former Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat missions
- Ted Elden (FM) Architect
- Jeffrey Farrer (FM) Physics/ Materials Science, BYU
- Derrick P. Grimmer (FM) Physics, Alternative energy
- Andrew Johnson (FM) Physics, Computer Science, Software Engineering
- Jean-Pierre Petit (FM) Aeronautics, astrophysics, engineering
- Victoria Ashley (AM) Architecture and physiological psychology, 911research.wtc7.net
- Frank Carmen (AM) Physics Ph.D., BYU
- Dominic Dudzik (AM) Physics simulations, Electrical engineering
etc..

These are professionals in their respective fields who have no doubt that 9/11 couldn't have happened the way we are continually told it happened.

List of scientists studying 9/11 who have observed molten steel:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/...1521846767-1618

None of the official reports tackles this mystery. Yet this is evidently a significant clue to what caused the Towers and WTC 7 to collapse.

Image of molten steel

Comparison of Thermite Reaction - Demonstration to Video Footage of Material Dropping from WTC 2 Just Prior to Collapse on Sept 11th 2001

Moreover, as hypothesized below, thermite reactions may have resulted in substantial quantities (observed in pools) of molten iron at very high temperatures – initially above 2,000 °C (3,632 °F). At these temperatures, aluminum materials from the buildings should continue to undergo exothermic oxidation reactions with materials also entrained in the molten metal pools including metal oxides, which will then keep the pools molten and even growing for weeks despite radiative and conductive losses.

I maintain that these observations are consistent with the use of high-temperature cutter-charges such as thermite, HMX or RDX or some combination thereof, routinely used to melt/cut/demolish steel. Thermite is a mixture of iron oxide and aluminum powder. The end products of the thermite reaction are aluminum oxide and molten iron. So the thermite reaction generates molten iron directly, and is hot enough to melt and even evaporate steel which it contacts while reacting. Here is the thermite-reaction equation for a typical mixture of aluminum powder iron oxide powder:

2Al + Fe2O3 = Al2O3 + 2Fe (molten iron), DH = - 853.5 kJ/mole.

Thermite contains its own supply of oxygen and so the reaction cannot be smothered, even with water. Use of sulfur in conjunction with the thermite, for example in thermate, will accelerate the destructive effect on steel, and sulfidation of structural steel was indeed observed in some of the few recovered members from the WTC rubble, as reported in Appendix C of the FEMA report. (FEMA, 2002; see also, [1].) On the other hand, falling buildings (absent incendiaries such as thermite) have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal.

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And what has to be the absolute kicker:

Edit: I knew I spoke too soon, I just found the smoking gun!

Strange, two Aussies in lab coat were the culprits, nonetheless.. Watch the short clip of these guys using thermite, then compare it to this video of the south tower. Notice the by-product, especially when they test the thermite on the car, of the dripping, red, molten metal.

1. Thermite test
2. South Tower (approx. 10 seconds in camera zooms closer)

quotations from:
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27276&page=15&pp=15

 

[applepowerpc]

We've got two separate issues: what do you think of Alex Jones, and what do you think of 9/11.

For example, I used to believe in government complicity in 9/1 (still do), but thought Alex Jones a bit over the edge. I don't anymore, though. Alex Jones is a man who doesn't care if people THINK of him as extreme. But the reality is, he has the evidence to prove what he says.

 

[gts]

We've got two separate issues: what do you think of Alex Jones, and what do you think of 9/11.

For example, I used to believe in government complicity in 9/1 (still do), but thought Alex Jones a bit over the edge. I don't anymore, though. Alex Jones is a man who doesn't care if people THINK of him as extreme. But the reality is, he has the evidence to prove what he says.

What about those christians, or non-christians for that matter, that will get the wrong impression about the truth because the messenger behaves in an unstable manner, or has hipocritical characteristics. This makes the truth less believable. As witnessing Christians we know the effect our approach, presentation, and fruit have on the non-believer. This is the heart of my concern with Alex Jones.