Alcohol

[moonkitty]

I have had black outs just from eating those Tiger Milk bars which are loaded with barley malt. One day, I ate a Tiger Milk bar (I was addicted to them), went to the doctor's office, came home, and then called the doctor to apologize for missing my appointment. [Please reread that sentence.] The nurse told me that I had just seen the doctor, asked me to check my purse for the allergy prescription, and then told me to get it filled immediately. To this day, I have no knowledge of what I said or did during that doctor's visit. Thank goodness I was not out on a date or I could have been raped and would have had no knowledge.

It took me three years to overcome that addiction. In fact, I would call AA and ask them to talk me out of eating those protein bars.

Later on, I found out that barley malt caused me to have a form of amnesia and I would space out because of it. That means I cannot even eat donuts and beer because they are both made with barley flour. To this day, I must read labels because barley in soup makes me very sick with flu like symptoms.

And yes, I am Irish and Cherokee. Both have a tendency to experience black outs.

Off topic, but you are the only other person I have met who has this problem with barely--one of my girl scout moms can not eat anything with barely, she can black out, have amnesia, get rashes, and get physically sick. She has to be very careful with what she eats.


I'm Cherokee and welsh, but don't really drink much. More than one drink makes me very sleepy. I may have 2 to 3 glasses of wine a month.

 

[MariaRegina]

Barley is not offtopic because it is a main ingredient in beer.

Barley is also forbidden in those with gluten sensitivities as it contains the highest amount of gluten.

I have a cousin with Celiac and barley sensitivity. He becomes psychotically violent in the presence of barley. His relatives (not related to me) also have this problem with barley, and they are Welsh.

So, one must ask:

If a person were to commit rape under the influence of beer, and then claim it was the barley malt that made him black out, would a judge buy that story? In the case of a PA man, the judge and jury ruled that he was guilty.

 

[BlessEwe]

Some poeple can be allergic to the barley in the beer, and make them crazy I bet.

 

[MariaRegina]

Exactly. And they could have an allergic addiction to the barley in the beer.

Therefore, overcoming that addiction to beer would be very hard, as it was for me to overcome the barley addiction to Tiger Milk bars.

With an addiction to beer, they could drink themselves into a violent stupor, and then rape and commit homicide.

Incidentally, not surprising at all, there is a correlation between drunkedness and homicide.

 

[BlackSabb]

Barley is not offtopic because it is a main ingredient in beer.

And if you drink single malt Scotch as opposed to blended whisky, then it is completely composed of barley.

 

[MariaRegina]

Some vodka is made of barley grain alcohol instead of potato.

 

[IzzyPop]

Vodka is rarely made from potatoes. Grain of some sort is most common.

 

[MariaRegina]

Oh, I got some from Trader Joes, 100 percent potato and made in Russia.
No, I did not drink it. I used it to make an herbal tonic.

Most of the Vodka is made from barley.

 

[MariaRegina]

I just realized something. That new Trader Giotto's Organic Vodka Sauce that is sold at Trader Joe's has potato vodka in it. It was soooo good tasting too. I love it on pasta.

 

[IzzyPop]

Tomatoes have some flavor compounds that are alcohol soluble. Whenever you make a tomato based sauce the flavor is usually enhanced with a splash of wine or vodka.

 

[MariaRegina]

However, the alcohol is cooked out by the time the sauce is reheated and added to the pasta.

Isn't that true?

 

[IzzyPop]

However, the alcohol is cooked out by the time the sauce is reheated and added to the pasta.

Isn't that true?

Doesn't really matter.

Contrary to popular belief, alcohol does not boil out quickly, it takes a couple hours of simmering to achieve total evaporation. (The lighting on fire of a flambe, on the other hand, gets the booze out fast.) But the math saves you.

For a quart of sauce, 1/4 cup of wine or a couple of tablespoons of vodka are enough to get the effect you are looking for. So you are adding 2 ounces oz wine or 1 ounce (less than a shot) of vodka into 32 ounces of sauce. Even if the alcohol does not evaporate, you'd have to consume around a couple of gallons of sauce in a one hour period for the average person to be considered drunk.

 

[Joachim]

If God didn't want us to drink he wouldn't have turned wine into his blood

 

[moonkitty]

If God didn't want us to drink he wouldn't have turned wine into his blood

I like the quote by Benjamin Franklin that says "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

 

[The Nihilist]

If the catholic church can either/or get everyone to use it sensibly to use it wisely or the right processes/laws in place so that it can only be given in such amounts as to be "safe" or processes laws in place so that the cars and intoxication incidents are reduced significantly or better if violence and intoxication incidents are reduced significantly.
Or can figure out a way to create synthehol that has the properties of alcohol sans intoxication. Then sure no ban.

Wouldn't it just be easier for the church to get you to stop being a killjoy? Admittedly, that is not what church is for, but it's worth the effort.

 

[Joachim]

I like the quote by Benjamin Franklin that says "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

Not only that but the radical Islam that Bin Laden preaches rails against alcohol and calls it evil and views our consumption of it in the West as part of our supposed decadence. So as I see it whenever I go out and drink I am doing something patriotic because I am disregarding every belief Bin Laden holds dear. When I drink I'm not doing it for myself. I'm doing it for America.

 

[moonkitty]

Not only that but the radical Islam that Bin Laden preaches rails against alcohol and calls it evil and views our consumption of it in the West as part of our supposed decadence. So as I see it whenever I go out and drink I am doing something patriotic because I am disregarding every belief Bin Laden holds dear. When I drink I'm not doing it for myself. I'm doing it for America.

That's great. I had a glass of wine last night, I can now say that I was doing my patriotic duty.

 

[Blackmarch]

Wouldn't it just be easier for the church to get you to stop being a killjoy? Admittedly, that is not what church is for, but it's worth the effort.

Oh possibly. They'd have to find me first.

 

[SmileAndAHandshake]

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Do you view alcohol as wrong?

I sure don't.

... hmm, easiest topic yet

 

[Nooj]

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I have alcoholism in my family too.

Same here. Living (if it can be called 'living') with an alcoholic for the better part of my life single-handedly keeps me from drinking alcohol, except on rare occasions. I know it's sort of irrational, but inwardly I flinch when I see wine.