Alcohol...

[jukesk9]

I have a question that I would like answered from a Baptist point of view. I do not understand why drinking alcohol is considered a sin. I have no problem accepting the fact and agreeing with you that DRUNKENESS is a sin. However, Jesus and his disciples drank wine. They weren't described as drunk. Drinking alcohol in moderation doesn't produce drunkeness. So, why is drinking alcohol sinful? Thanks.

 

[DivineFiliation]

good question jukesk.

 

[CrystalBrooke]

I have a question that I would like answered from a Baptist point of view. I do not understand why drinking alcohol is considered a sin. I have no problem accepting the fact and agreeing with you that DRUNKENESS is a sin. However, Jesus and his disciples drank wine. They weren't described as drunk. Drinking alcohol in moderation doesn't produce drunkeness. So, why is drinking alcohol sinful? Thanks.

i agree, im still trying to find out why most Baptists think that drinking is a sin, i definatly agree that getting drunk is a sin, as im sure Jesus never did that. but thats a good question.

 

[Oblio]

However, Jesus and his disciples drank wine.

I know that many Baptists (I usta be one ) believe that the 'wine' that they drank was unfermented. I know of at least one 'parish' that forbade their members to drink as a condition of membership.

 

[jenptcfan]

Not all of us believe that drinking is sin.

 

[jcright]

I have a question that I would like answered from a Baptist point of view. I do not understand why drinking alcohol is considered a sin. I have no problem accepting the fact and agreeing with you that DRUNKENESS is a sin. However, Jesus and his disciples drank wine. They weren't described as drunk. Drinking alcohol in moderation doesn't produce drunkeness. So, why is drinking alcohol sinful? Thanks.

I didn't know that Baptist considered it a sin. One of my favorite pastors gave the talk on this a couple of years back...wish I had the notes. He proved, at least as far as I am concerned, that the bible doesn't speak for or against drinking (except in the case of being drunk). However, I know that Baptist stay away from drinking because although we must live in this world, we are to live apart from the world...this means not partaking in drinking because it can lead to sin.

Not the best answer, I wish I could provide you with the correct scripture verse, but I have to go! If no one provide the scripture by Monday then I'll edit my post

John

 

[lucypevensie]

Drinking alcohol is not a sin, but drunkenness and gluttony are. Our baptist church was one of those churches that forbade drinking in order to be a member. I say was because recently we voted to have that clause removed from our church constitution. The point was made that Jesus Himself could not be a member at our church with that clause in there

 

[jukesk9]

I didn't know that Baptist considered it a sin.

I ask this because I live in an area that has one of the top ten largest Southern Baptist congregations in the U.S. (at least that's what I've been told). Anyway, I work with several Southern Baptists. I had a dear friend who was a member of this congregation who recently passed away. We had a lot of talks and he was adamant that drinking was sinful. But he could never tell me why.

 

[SumTinWong]

I have a question that I would like answered from a Baptist point of view. I do not understand why drinking alcohol is considered a sin. I have no problem accepting the fact and agreeing with you that DRUNKENESS is a sin. However, Jesus and his disciples drank wine. They weren't described as drunk. Drinking alcohol in moderation doesn't produce drunkeness. So, why is drinking alcohol sinful? Thanks.

I am not sure that it is. I think doing all things in moderation is the thing to do.

 

[GreenEyedLady]

I am against drinking.
I think that it will lead to nothing but trouble. Some say moderation, however when do you concider yourself drunk? How many glasses? It would take me one glass to "feel" a buzz. One can hardley remain in the spirit when you got a buzz going on.
There are several verses that teach us to be sober and to pay attention to what is going on. Some of these mean sober minded, not to let anything intoxicate it, but you can just as well apply this to alchol.
I have seen so many married couple and familes be destoryed from drinking.
I live in the #1 drinking capitol in the USA. The home of AB!
GEL
Ps, I think its funny how people use the moderation verse for drinking. Does do everything in moderation mean anything? Think about it

 

[Oblio]

Does do everything in moderation mean anything?

Certainly not.
St. Paul instructs his spiritual son, Timothy, to drink a little wine in moderation though

 

[GreenEyedLady]

1 Timothy 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

Actually, this may not really be the wine we in the USA drink today.
I have been studing fasting and for thy stomachs sake, I have drunk some grape juice so that I can futher crucify my flesh unto the Lord.

GEL

 

[CrystalBrooke]

I am against drinking.
I think that it will lead to nothing but trouble. Some say moderation, however when do you concider yourself drunk? How many glasses? It would take me one glass to "feel" a buzz. One can hardley remain in the spirit when you got a buzz going on.
There are several verses that teach us to be sober and to pay attention to what is going on. Some of these mean sober minded, not to let anything intoxicate it, but you can just as well apply this to alchol.
I have seen so many married couple and familes be destoryed from drinking.
I live in the #1 drinking capitol in the USA. The home of AB!
GEL
Ps, I think its funny how people use the moderation verse for drinking. Does do everything in moderation mean anything? Think about it

Jesus even drank wine, as did his deciples. Catholics even drink it with Eucharist, or at least mix it in(if im not mistaken). do you think that they are wrong in doing this?

 

[Oblio]

Catholics even drink it with Eucharist, or at least mix it in(if im not mistaken).

Orthodox Christians mix wine, hot water, and leavened bread together in the Chalice. The bread soaked with wine and water is served by a spoon.

 

[GreenEyedLady]

Jesus even drank wine, as did his deciples. Catholics even drink it with Eucharist, or at least mix it in(if im not mistaken). do you think that they are wrong in doing this?

Crystal, the wine back then in the day was not the same percent that we have now. It might have been fermented a little, but not to the extreame that it is in our day and age.
GEL

 

[RED that's ME]

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[TexasCatholic]

Drinking was always frowned upon in my Baptist churches, but I don't see anything written down that says "drinking is a sin". For that matter, you won't find any such writings in the SBC's Faith & Message.

I don't think you can go wrong by not drinking. But you can CERTAINLY go wrong by drinking too much.

I personally drink in moderation in social settings. I do not get drunk. This would be sinful, not to mention irresponsible, IMO.

-James

 

[jukesk9]

I don't think you can go wrong by not drinking. But you can CERTAINLY go wrong by drinking too much.

I totally agree with you. I was hoping a Baptist could provide me with some Scripture that prohibited drinking.

 

[jukesk9]

I am against drinking.
I think that it will lead to nothing but trouble. Some say moderation, however when do you concider yourself drunk? How many glasses? It would take me one glass to "feel" a buzz. One can hardley remain in the spirit when you got a buzz going on.
There are several verses that teach us to be sober and to pay attention to what is going on. Some of these mean sober minded, not to let anything intoxicate it, but you can just as well apply this to alchol.
I have seen so many married couple and familes be destoryed from drinking.
I live in the #1 drinking capitol in the USA. The home of AB!
GEL
Ps, I think its funny how people use the moderation verse for drinking. Does do everything in moderation mean anything? Think about it

I appreciate your response. I am sincerely asking so I hope not to violate any rules. I guess your response is one of a personal opinion and not from Scripture? I think doing everything in moderation does mean something. Eating in moderation is Scriptural for gluttony is a sin. Moderation is healthy for us and our bodies are Temples for the Holy Spirit.

 

[GreenEyedLady]

I totally agree with you. I was hoping a Baptist could provide me with some Scripture that prohibited drinking. I guess there isn't any.

Here is PLENTY of scripture to back it up!
Now, I can provide more if you would like about drunkenss but you said you did not want scripture with drunkenss.
God makes is clear in His word.
GEL

Leviticus 10:9 Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:
Numbers 6:3 He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.
Judges 13:4 Now therefore beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink, and eat not any unclean thing:
Proverbs 20:1 ¶Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
Proverbs 31:4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:
Proverbs 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
Isaiah 5:11 Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!
Isaiah 5:22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
Isaiah 24:9 They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it.
Isaiah 28:7 But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.
Isaiah 29:9 ¶Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.
Luke 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.(John the Baptist)