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<blockquote data-quote="com7fy8" data-source="post: 77592281" data-attributes="member: 331347"><p>God can use it. But a live minister can get to know people in a group and minister what they need while also receiving ministry from them. This is included in our Father's family way of sharing with one another. And we grow with each other, discovering how we are maturing with each other. This would take quite some technological development for an AI device to have prayerful feedback from God about what to preach, and feedback from the members of the group, and sharing in mutual prayer and teachings and warning one another > Colossians 3:17 > and the AI device duplicating observing our maturing while it shows maturing in Jesus.</p><p></p><p>I don't think so; plus why pay for it? The development could cost millions of dollars, and maybe just one device and app could cost . . . enough to close our churches, financially.</p><p></p><p></p><p>"And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment." (Philippians 1:9)</p><p></p><p>From this scripture, I would say discernment includes how God gives us sense for knowing what is good, while we are living in His love and guiding. In His love we discern what is the good way to love each person, how to see each person the way love has us seeing. </p><p></p><p>This comes with growing in Jesus, not only knowing the Bible, though knowledge of the scriptures certainly is used by God. </p><p></p><p>In His love we have "senses" . . . not only knowledge > </p><p></p><p>"But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil." (Hebrews 5:14)</p><p></p><p>So, yes with God we can discern what is good and not good, all the time . . . as we submit to Him and are personally guided, all the time . . . more and better as we grow in Jesus and how He in us shares with us how is submissive to our Father. </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'georgia'"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">"Test all things; hold fast what is good."</span></span></span> (1 Thessalonians 5:21)</p><p></p><p>I see how this scripture confirms that at all times we need to be submissive to God, so that we can test "all" the things what come our way and all our decisions, and all our thoughts and feelings and emotions. As we grow in His love, we discover God doing this with us > </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)"><span style="font-family: 'georgia'">"for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure."</span></span></span> (Philippians 2:13) </p><p></p><p>So . . . applying this to the AI question . . . do you think a human can produce AI which has us discerning "all things" . . . including within us? I do not think a device will come out which can tell what we are thinking and which emotions to accept, and which to put away from us. </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'georgia'"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: rgb(251, 160, 38)">"Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice."</span></span></span> (Ephesians 4:31)</p><p></p><p>In order to produce an AI device app which tells you to do this and has us doing this, there would need to be producers who believe in this and who would develop this into the AI device and app. And there are people claiming the Bible who do not counsel and minister for us to put away wrong feelings and emotions . . . the way God does this with us, of course . . . as is possible with God, and commanded. God is committed to this, but a variety of people either deny this or leave this out or try to do some sort of substitute way of healing.</p><p></p><p>Discernment, then, includes how God's love in us takes care of us.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'georgia'"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: rgb(251, 160, 38)">"There is no fear in love; </span><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">but perfect love casts out fear,</span><span style="color: rgb(251, 160, 38)"> because fear involves torment."</span></span></span> (in 1 John 4:18)</p><p></p><p>Love discerns fear and casts it out. Likewise, this goes for unforgiveness and other anti-love things in us. And God in us has us more and more sensing these things and not accepting them and casting them out.</p><p></p><p>And our discernment has us sensing God Himself so we are always submitting to how He rules us in His peace ></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'georgia'"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">"And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." </span></span></span>(Colossians 3:15)</p><p></p><p>We grow together in this, which is a process deeper than words alone, in personal sharing with God in us and with each other as family > <span style="font-family: 'georgia'"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">"in one body".</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="com7fy8, post: 77592281, member: 331347"] God can use it. But a live minister can get to know people in a group and minister what they need while also receiving ministry from them. This is included in our Father's family way of sharing with one another. And we grow with each other, discovering how we are maturing with each other. This would take quite some technological development for an AI device to have prayerful feedback from God about what to preach, and feedback from the members of the group, and sharing in mutual prayer and teachings and warning one another > Colossians 3:17 > and the AI device duplicating observing our maturing while it shows maturing in Jesus. I don't think so; plus why pay for it? The development could cost millions of dollars, and maybe just one device and app could cost . . . enough to close our churches, financially. "And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment." (Philippians 1:9) From this scripture, I would say discernment includes how God gives us sense for knowing what is good, while we are living in His love and guiding. In His love we discern what is the good way to love each person, how to see each person the way love has us seeing. This comes with growing in Jesus, not only knowing the Bible, though knowledge of the scriptures certainly is used by God. In His love we have "senses" . . . not only knowledge > "But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil." (Hebrews 5:14) So, yes with God we can discern what is good and not good, all the time . . . as we submit to Him and are personally guided, all the time . . . more and better as we grow in Jesus and how He in us shares with us how is submissive to our Father. [FONT=georgia][SIZE=5][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]"Test all things; hold fast what is good."[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] (1 Thessalonians 5:21) I see how this scripture confirms that at all times we need to be submissive to God, so that we can test "all" the things what come our way and all our decisions, and all our thoughts and feelings and emotions. As we grow in His love, we discover God doing this with us > [SIZE=5][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)][FONT=georgia]"for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure."[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] (Philippians 2:13) So . . . applying this to the AI question . . . do you think a human can produce AI which has us discerning "all things" . . . including within us? I do not think a device will come out which can tell what we are thinking and which emotions to accept, and which to put away from us. [FONT=georgia][SIZE=5][COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]"Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice."[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] (Ephesians 4:31) In order to produce an AI device app which tells you to do this and has us doing this, there would need to be producers who believe in this and who would develop this into the AI device and app. And there are people claiming the Bible who do not counsel and minister for us to put away wrong feelings and emotions . . . the way God does this with us, of course . . . as is possible with God, and commanded. God is committed to this, but a variety of people either deny this or leave this out or try to do some sort of substitute way of healing. Discernment, then, includes how God's love in us takes care of us. [FONT=georgia][SIZE=5][COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]"There is no fear in love; [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]but perfect love casts out fear,[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)] because fear involves torment."[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] (in 1 John 4:18) Love discerns fear and casts it out. Likewise, this goes for unforgiveness and other anti-love things in us. And God in us has us more and more sensing these things and not accepting them and casting them out. And our discernment has us sensing God Himself so we are always submitting to how He rules us in His peace > [FONT=georgia][SIZE=5][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]"And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT](Colossians 3:15) We grow together in this, which is a process deeper than words alone, in personal sharing with God in us and with each other as family >[COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)] [/COLOR][FONT=georgia][SIZE=5][COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]"in one body".[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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