Age of Accountability

[ebia]

2 Samuel 12: 23 But now that he is dead, why should I go on fasting? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.”

I see that the above passage would definitely suggest that babies go to heaven because David said he would go to the baby. Therefore, David, a man after God's own heart, obviously went to heaven with Abraham. So therefore, we can see that babies must go to heaven.

Back projecting modern Christian notions onto the text I'm afraid. In David's time (and the author of Samuel's) the only notion after death was sheol. All David means is "we will end up in the grave together".

 

[Standing Up]

Back projecting modern Christian notions onto the text I'm afraid. In David's time (and the author of Samuel's) the only notion after death was sheol. All David means is "we will end up in the grave together".

Job had no notions of after life then, eh?

 

[ebia]

Job had no notions of after life then, eh?

Well, Job is a fictional character, but which text did you have in mind?

 

[Standing Up]

Well, Job is a fictional character, but which text did you have in mind?

Can't talk unless we have a common ground. Nonetheless, against better judgment-

Job 19:25-26
For I know [that] my redeemer liveth, and [that] he shall stand at the latter [day] upon the earth:And [though] after my skin [worms] destroy this [body], yet in my flesh shall I see God:

 

[ebia]

Can't talk unless we have a common ground. Nonetheless, against better judgment-

Job 19:25-26
For I know [that] my redeemer liveth, and [that] he shall stand at the latter [day] upon the earth:And [though] after my skin [worms] destroy this [body], yet in my flesh shall I see God:

Compare chapter 14, which unlike this particular phrase is clear. No, part of the point of the book of job is that need for judgement here and now.

John Goldingay:
"As he speaks of his restorer standing "on the dirt" to give his testimony on Job's behalf, it looks as if Job imagines the meeting of the assembly happening on earth. Job himself will be dead and long done; his flesh will have long ago disappeared. He will be in Sheol, but the Old Testament occasionally implies that in some sense people in Sheol can be aware of things, so even though Job's body has perished he may be able to "see God.""