Age-inappropriate information in schools?

[ForJesusChrist]

I suspect that you'd choose option A in my hypothetical:

No, I would personally lie to save my mother.

 

[poolerboy0077]

No, I would personally lie to save my mother.

But lying is a sin!

 

[ForJesusChrist]

But lying is a sin!

Indeed it is.

 

[poolerboy0077]

Indeed it is.

So when is it okay to break sins and when is it not? Not just to answer my hypothetical scenario, but as a guiding principle.

 

[ForJesusChrist]

So when is it okay to break sins and when is it not? Not just to answer my hypothetical scenario, but as a guiding principle.

Well, I feel it would be OK, because the person trying to murder is in danger of committing a much more dangerous sin, which is murder.

 

[znr]

White Lies – Lies Approved by God

So when is it okay to break sins and when is it not? Not just to answer my hypothetical scenario, but as a guiding principle.

 

[znr]

Do you believe God looks upon the heart?

Yes and no. She saved many lives, but she also committed the sin of lying.

 

[ForJesusChrist]

Yes I do

 

[znr]

Good!

Yes I do

 

[znr]

Sorry poolerboy0077, don't mean to overwhelm you with scriptures. I know it's going to take a bit to wade through all of that. If by chacne you're looking for references to lying and outcome of lying in the bible, those were some examples.

 

[poolerboy0077]

Well, I feel it would be OK, because the person trying to murder is in danger of committing a much more dangerous sin, which is murder.

Isn't it an even more dangerous sin to reject Jesus as savior per your religion? If a teacher reveals information to young children that other religions, like her own, exist and this gives said children the possibility of questioning their own faith, thereby running the risk of not being saved, should religious liberty and expression be trumped by the endeavor to save children's souls?

 

[znr]

To reverse this. IMO that sounds more like indoctrination either way, not illumination. Since other religions exist, it's probably a good idea for a confident Christian teacher to be up front when children ask questions, let them know other religions exist, and then let God do the convincing. Merely agreeing that other religions exist can't possibly be an objection God can't ultimately overcome. Assuming God exists, of course. ;-)

The reverse is the scenario you mentioned, where another religion is shared by a non Christian teacher, shouldn't be too much of a problem if God exists and as as powerful as He claims to be. Parents should be teaching their kids at home anyway.

Isn't it an even more dangerous sin to reject Jesus as savior per your religion? If a teacher reveals information to young children that other religions, like her own, exist and this gives said children the possibility of questioning their own faith, thereby running the risk of not being saved, should religious liberty and expression be trumped by the endeavor to save children's souls?

 

[poolerboy0077]

To reverse this. IMO that sounds more like indoctrination either way, not illumination. Since other religions exist, it's probably a good idea for a confident Christian teacher to be up front when children ask questions, let them know other religions exist, and then let God do the convincing.

But why is proselytizing seen with such aversion by those who sincerely believe that if one does not accept Jesus they go to hell?

If a Christian teacher is deeply devout and believes that children, let's say around the age of 9, who never accepted Jesus by virtue of being raised in an entirely different faith go to hell, why prioritize school policies, religious diversity and other socially acceptable norms over this central belief of salvation? It is almost as though not coming off "pushy" or violating "man's law" is being placed at a higher importance than saving souls.

 

[znr]

Are these two questions seperate or connected, the one here and the one below? I'm losing your train of thought. Not to make put the blame on you, in fact I have a reading comprehension problem.

My guess is I'd have to conduct a poll. If you were to ask me when I was an athiest / agnostic teenager what I think about proselytizing 9 year old kids in school, I would have chalked it up to, literally, insanity, and then I observed very little compassion from religious people. They were always trying to save my young soul, which appeared more to my young mind as insanity because none of those well meaning people understood how to connect with young people, so to my eyes they seemed pushy and lacked empathy. Like RoboChristian.

The turning point for me was finally connecting with a few Christian's who modeled Christ's love in a way I could finally understand. They used less words, and more actions.

The opposite of having an open dialog on these issues is creating rules that control such discussions in public. My own personal opinion is that parents should raise their kids in the direction they're to go as adults.

If you're asking me what I think about all this talk about school, public prayer and such, I don't personally have a problem with the state of affairs in public school, possibly because I am not a parent. But if I was, it's not the schools job to teach my kids about going to hell, or heaven. It would be my job.

But why is proselytizing seen with such aversion by those who sincerely believe that if one does not accept Jesus they go to hell?

If a Christian teacher is deeply devout and believes that children, let's say around the age of 9, who never accepted Jesus by virtue of being raised in an entirely different faith go to hell, why prioritize school policies, religious diversity and other socially acceptable norms over this central belief of salvation? It is almost as though not coming off "pushy" or violating "man's law" is being placed at a higher importance than saving souls.