After Sabbath

[Sophia7]

you mentioned the word "we" by now you shouls know I hate generalizations like that. I Live the Sabbath by the Bible standerds. I know there are people that take it to far and if so, better to take it to far, then not far enough!

Those parents that don't let their kids play outside are trying to teach them about "resting on the Sabbath"

These examples you have given aren't really restrictions, they are opinions of people and their views on the Sabbath. Like I said better to take it too far then not far enough.

I disagree. It's just as bad to take it too far as it is to not take it far enough--maybe even worse. We shouldn't become Pharisees in our Sabbath restrictions (as many Adventists are). If parents make the Sabbath such a burden that their kids can't have any fun, then not only are they taking it too far, but also they are driving their kids away from the church and giving them a false understanding of what God wants from them. Legalism is no better than licentiousness. Both distort God's character and deny His grace.

 

[Dasdream]

so you feel that it is ok to play a game in the streets of basketball with people cursing and smoking all around you on the Sabbath? ou saying that I should go to work, watch TV and play Grand Theft Auto on the Sabbath instead of turning it off and reading the bible?

 

[Sophia7]

so you feel that it is ok to play a game in the streets of basketball with people cursing and smoking all around you on the Sabbath? ou saying that I should go to work, watch TV and play Grand Theft Auto on the Sabbath instead of turning it off and reading the bible?

I was referring to the comment that Adventtruth made about letting kids play in the back yard on Sabbath. I wouldn't let my kids go out and play with kids who are cursing and smoking and playing Grand Theft Auto anytime, including on Sabbath.

 

[Dasdream]

well welcome to my life Sophia, that's what the kids do around here.

do i seem aggrevatted? lol

do I need spellcheck?

 

[Sophia7]

well welcome to my life Sophia, that's what the kids do around here.

do i seem aggrevatted? lol

do I need spellcheck?

Kids do those things everywhere. That's a different thread, though.

 

[Dasdream]

but yeah, my parents didn't let me play anything that would get me angry on sabbath, which makes sence. I would toss the footba or baseball around with my dad, but we would never do things that would anger us. because anger kind of ruins the day. Which is what most parents should be....flexable

 

[Dathen]

My parents let me do what I want, and give me free choice. Seen it we're not the normal SDA family. My parents didn't raise me and teach me, me and my sister taught my parents........So being an older family it works well, me being the youngest. So it works because we all to choose to serve God. It's not forced like it is to most young children in church. I choose to be there. Most children would probably prefer to be playing something, then being there. So seen they're forced there of course they're going to act and dress inapproprately!!!

 

[Dasdream]

My parents let me do what I want, and give me free choice. Seen it we're not the normal SDA family. My parents didn't raise me and teach me, me and my sister taught my parents........So being an older family it works well, me being the youngest. So it works because we all to choose to serve God. It's not forced like it is to most young children in church. I choose to be there. Most children would probably prefer to be playing something, then being there. So seen they're forced there of course they're going to act and dress inapproprately!!!

are you sure about that? I was forced

let me tell you I was the only kid 'forced" in my church, the other parents let their kids do whatever and suprise suprise. I'm the only one still in church.

it's not being forced that kept me in, it's the way my parents lived that helped me alot. Since the first day i started school, my mother would read me parts of the Bible or one of those Bible bedtime stories, before I went to school. She did the same before I went to bed. We all ate together at the table and always had a prayer. So, it was the other things they did that made me what i am today. When i say they forced me I don't mean they tied me in a chair and stuff. .........well my parents also taught me at a very young age to obey my mom and dad. There were sogs, verses and stories, that taught me to obey my parents. By the time I turned 13 I realized, that I don't have to agree with my parents, but i had to obey them. All parents raise their kids differently and not everything works. being strict may work or may not work. your kids may become Christians or rebels...but that's the chance you take when you have kids

 

[Dathen]

As it comes to religion, I can make my own choices. If I don't want to go to church I don't have to. I've done it before. I choose to be at church because I enjoy it!!! My parents do'nt force me. As a matter of fact, I forced my parents to come. I had to persuade them to take me, because no-one else wanted to go!!!! But they all came and loved it!!! Now there lives are changing for Christ!!

 

[Sophia7]

As it comes to religion, I can make my own choices. If I don't want to go to church I don't have to. I've done it before. I choose to be at church because I enjoy it!!! My parents do'nt force me. As a matter of fact, I forced my parents to come. I had to persuade them to take me, because no-one else wanted to go!!!! But they all came and loved it!!! Now there lives are changing for Christ!!

I'm so glad that you have been able to be a positive example of Christianity to your parents.

 

[Dasdream]

As it comes to religion, I can make my own choices. If I don't want to go to church I don't have to. I've done it before. I choose to be at church because I enjoy it!!! My parents do'nt force me. As a matter of fact, I forced my parents to come. I had to persuade them to take me, because no-one else wanted to go!!!! But they all came and loved it!!! Now there lives are changing for Christ!!

don't you think this is going against the commendment, which states to honor thy mother and thy father? Like I said twice now, not everything works for everybody. You are one of very few kids that aren't forced and go to church voluntarily, but that's not the case for the majority. Trust me if my parents didn't force me to go, I would be on the news right now causing lots of problems. Let me tell you I didn't care about God at all till around age 18, because that was the age that my faith was tested the most, that was the age that i realized that everything I had heard the previous years was true. if my arents didn't take me to church I would'nt have never learned these things. I would be drawing or oloring or writing, something to have fun in church. that didn't vother my mother, she told me something that is very true "We listen with our ears not our eyes" which means eventhough I was doing something esle I could still hear the message. Messeges that became clear to me as I got older. I wouldn't have learned that if I did not go to church. They also belived that God could return at any minute, they wanted their son and daughter to be saved. Again that worked for my parents, but may not work for others

 

[Dathen]

Thank you Sophia!!

Dasdream. I don't see how that is breaking the fifthe commandment. I honor my parents!! They obviously think me mature enough to make my own decisions in that way. They could force me to go to church, but what good is that when you grow, up, you'll just turn away. You need to be interested. I don't see where the fifthe commandment really fits in there.

For example, if your parents arn't religious, you will obviously love and respect them, honor as the commandment says. But you will not obey them, because they will guide you from religion!!!!!

 

[Dasdream]

They could force me to go to church, but what good is that when you grow, up, you'll just turn away.

Appearently you haven't read my posts.

 

[Dathen]

Incorrect. I've read them all, though they pose wrong fatcs relating to me and my family!!

 

[Dasdream]

Well your replies state otherwise. Let me clearify the "not honoring your parents" comment. Some interpretations and some people will say that honoring is obeying. Now, you say no to your parents on going to church. is this or isn't this disobeying your parents?and if you read my posts like you say you did then you wouldn't be making comments like these:

They could force me to go to church, but what good is that when you grow, up, you'll just turn away.

 

[Dathen]

You're missing the point that parents don't always tell the truth, they're humans, everything they tell you to do may not be correct. The Bible says and I'm paraphrasing, obey your parents only if it complies with the Lord. Seen you're missing the point, consider my point made......... End of Convo.

 

[Dasdream]

You're missing the point that parents don't always tell the truth, they're humans, everything they tell you to do may not be correct. The Bible says and I'm paraphrasing, obey your parents only if it complies with the Lord. Seen you're missing the point, consider my point made......... End of Convo.

Yes master. Haha no. I have absoultuly no clue what the heck you just said in that post!

My point is you parents didn't force you, yet you keep saying that forcing people will lead to them getting out of church. Did you read the part where I said that i was forced?

Trust me if my parents didn't force me to go, I would be on the news right now causing lots of problems.

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I was the only kid 'forced" in my church, the other parents let their kids do whatever and suprise suprise. I'm the only one still in church.

Did you read that part of my posts? Appearently not! I also said this.....

All parents raise their kids differently and not everything works. being strict may work or may not work

Your comments like this one

They could force me to go to church, but what good is that when you grow, up, you'll just turn away.

You make it seem like it's a fact, but I my life proves that it is not a fact! Just the luck of a draw. I don't see why you keep arguing with me over this.