ROFL..... that was kinda ironic huh, you bash me for telling him to grow up, then proceed to tell me to grow up ROFL.... then the low blow with the HS remark.... smooth dawg smooth. What name did I call him
So then by all means Sp0ck tell me what IS the issue then, cause not all men feel like that its a personal thing, with your firend "attacking" the issue means adressing your friend AS A PERSON....how is that not utterly apparent?? *shrug* (this might help me grow

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My turn..... No YOU grow up. AAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
hisblood I WAS married I loved when my wife gained weight.... she hated when i said that but it was OOOOoooo so true. I find women attractive in all shapes and sizes, her body comes second to the content, and if she gave birth to my child, i dont think I would be anymore turned on. Yes I find women "overweight" and "skinny" women attractive, there is just something about the female body with some meat on it that riles me up.

I cant help it.
I know hes your friend so its easy to get defensive. For that I apologize.
I guess overall I cant see how someone would pose this question and then not expect the responses that have been given I went ahead and read the rest of the thread. Its like this: I can sugar coat an answer for you to swallow when a man isnt being a man it needs it to be pointed out. If I was his close friend I would be the one to tell him. Him: "I dont find my wife attractive now that she has given birth".... Dude would have either had to give me a few miniutes to cool down or I would have gave him a tounge lashing he wont soon forget. Thats what friends do, we give it straight up, no beating around the bush, no coating it so he can take it better, if he is failing in his duty( or one duty) as a husband, and IMO this falls in if not very very close to that realm, then he needs to be approached, confrontred and set on the right path, ( man why didnt someone do that to me earlier in my marriage) he will have to do the rest. Someone said its time for him to mature.....i.e. "grow up" i cant see where the difference lays from that and what I echoed from a few others. This isnt a selfrighous thing, its just the way it is. When i was going through the hardest time in my life it was one guy that hammered me that made me see the what it was I did and needed to do. If he would have been nice and cheery about it, it would have had the opposite affect, and I have seen it here to many times, a firm hand is the best hand.
This wouldnt fly with me, I wouldnt try to purposly trash my friendship by being brutually honest, but if you are holding your tounge are you really being a friend??? I dont doubt that you have good intentions and are trying to approach this with tact...... i dont see this as being a time to do so. My bestfriend flat out told me not to get married, FLAT OUT, as my friend it was his job to tell me the "truth", he was still 100% behind my decision, THATS a friend, somewhere in this you hold some responsiblity Sp0ck, he confided in you about this, if you tell him straight up how it is, you are good. If he gets mad at you it means you struck a nerve and he will dwell on it, and in time the TRUTH will surface and you will have been the core of that. In sitautions like this God speaks....and its usually through our friends. Thank God for friends. Your friend should thank God he has you.
Warrior Poet