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indonesianpalmtree

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I haven't touched a sig since the day of that post. I've prayed about it, and that is more powerful than mind-over-matter.

Also, I'm getting the impression you guys think I was without faith all my life. I grew up Protestant. I considered myself Christian, but I wasn't a full Christian because I gave in to persecution. Highschool can do that to you..

I've done a lot of research concerning denomination during the last few weeks. So far, I'm still a bit sceptical, but I'm starting to manage quite nicely..

I've also decided to stop drinking, although I'm not a strong drinker anymore since my conversion, I've decided to stop completely. Have to pray about that, still. It is a big factor in my life cause virtually all my friends drink on the weekends.

God bless
 
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I've often found it useful to spend less time considering (thinking about) my own piety or sinfullness and more time reading, studying and praying over the Bible and what God is revealing of Himself through the Word. It is in this manner that solutions to our concerns or doubts are found. Only God's Spirit and Truth empower us to step free of our past sinful nature. When we devote ourselves to Him in this manner, we soon find that all that is written indeed applies and works for us, just as it has for others over the last 6000 years of recorded Bible history.
 
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indonesianpalmtree

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PatientFaith said:
I've often found it useful to spend less time considering (thinking about) my own piety or sinfullness and more time reading, studying and praying over the Bible and what God is revealing of Himself through the Word. It is in this manner that solutions to our concerns or doubts are found. Only God's Spirit and Truth empower us to step free of our past sinful nature. When we devote ourselves to Him in this manner, we soon find that all that is written indeed applies and works for us, just as it has for others over the last 6000 years of recorded Bible history.
That is some good advice...:)

God bless
 
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If it makes you feel any better, you don't have to believe everything within a particular denomination (that is, if you are Protestant). I personally hold many Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox beliefs but attend a Protestant church. I'd highly doubt that ANY denomination gets everything perfectly correct--the point is to know which parts of your faith observance are the most important (like belief in a triune God, the need for baptism and the Eucharist, emphasis upon prayer and charity, etc.). You might want to try a Lutheran church--I've been leaning very much in this direction, or, if you wanted to leave Protestantism altogether, there is always the Orthodox church. Best of luck, dear brother. :)
 
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Dear Indonesian Palmtree[/
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The moment that I finished reading your letter, I knew that I had to respond to you. I can relate to so many of the issues that you have brought up. It is my hope and prayer that some of my experiences or words of encouragement will bless you or restore a measure of peace to your troubled heart. I pray and ask this in Jesus' blessed name.
You brought up many different issues in your letter and I am going to try to address them one by one. The first thing you brought was a sense of confusion over which denomination to affiliate yourself with. I had this very same problem about 15 years ago. I was so torn up about which direction to move in that I lost a great deal of tranquility of spirit. It took me months of bible study to finally resolve the issue but years to see things clearly the way that I do today. Do you love Jesus, Indonesian Palmtree? I know that you do. The sentiments that you have expressed in your letter clearly show that you do. Do you want to walk with him? Again, I know that you do. Don't permit yourself to become wrapped up in denominational debates over doctrine. Too many of our brothers and sisters out there are more interested in promoting division of Christian ranks than fullfilling the greatest of all Christ's commandments - to love one another.
Make a "once in for all" decision that you will not be persauded or prodded or cajoled by anyone else over what church you will attend. Instead approach the Lord in prayer and leave the entire issue in his hands. After doing this, get a little adventourous. Visit different churches! At the end of the service, ask yourself questions like "did I feel comfortable?", "did I sense God's presence?", "did any of the members demonstrate a spirit of kindness, and warmth, and hospitableness?" Believe me, if you follow these guidelines and trust God, the Lord will establish you at the exact place that you need to be. You can trust him.

The second thing that you expressed in your letter was a fear of temptations and sin. On the topic of sin, thank God for the feelings that you have! Do you realize how many children of God there are out there displeasing him with there sinful lives because they don't have that kind of fear and revulsion for sinful and selfish practices? The fact that you have this fear of sin in your life makes it perfectly clear to me that the Spirit of God has made his residence in your heart. He loves you and will jealously guard over you to keep you united to him. You will never be the same person now that Jesus has come and made his residence in you. Don't be afraid at the changes that he is making in your life. You also mentioned that you find yourself getting more disgusted with your old routines (parties,etc). You have again made it perfectly clear that the Spirit of God is operating in your life. Glorify God for these changes. Some Christians have this false notion that when we recieve Jesus into our lives, we are instantly changed. Nothing could be further from the truth and our everyday experiences in life testify to this very clearly. The work of God's indwelling Spirit is a progressive one. That means, that for the rest of your life, he will continue to reside and work within you making you a little bit more like Jesus everyday.

Don't allow yourself to shrink back with fear because of the changes he is performing in your life. Make up your mind once in for all that you will continue walking with him without looking back over your shoulders. When you make this kind of stand within your heart, you'll grow in strength. Not instantly, but with time. I had many friends and lived like a party animal before my conversion many years ago. Within 6 months after my conversion, however, many of my friends stopped coming around. I too felt hurt in the beginning but I made better friends. Friends that cared about me for who I was. Friends that shared a common thread with me much like we are here. That common thread was a mutual faith and devotion to the Holy One. When you honestly think about, where there is little in common between people-friendships will dissolve.

The final thing I would like to say Indonesian Palmtree is this. Learn to trust the still inner voice of God's indwelling Spirit in your life. You can trust him to comfort you when your down, strengthen you when your feeling self-conscious or afraid, convict you when you move into territory that is outside of his will for your life, and guide you when you need direction. And please, don't get too hard on yourself when you fall short of his grace. We ALL make mistakes and sin. That's why Jesus had to come in this world in the first place.


GOD BLESS YOU
Claude J Robichaud
 
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indonesianpalmtree

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Those that know me know that I am a person who doesn't want to settle with half-truths and questions. I get angry sometimes when someone is smarter than me. Call it jealousy, call it arrogance - but I think it has really helped me in this struggle between denominations. As I've said before in another thread, I came to CF to find fulfillment in the denomination I already had. I didn't come to change my denomination.

Everything went fine - I recieved great replies to the questions I asked (since I came from a very athiestic and cynical forum in an attempt to spread the gospel) and I was slowly starting to strengthen my faith. That was what I had wanted more than anything - to believe in God more than the shreds I had then. If you'll read my testimony, you'll see that I was jerked rather suddenly into my faith. I had no other decision but to believe in God, because He showed Himself to me with such PHYSICAL evidence.

After a month and a half, I was beginning to rationalize. What if I made it up? What if I was under the influence of hypnosis, or the placebo-effect? What if God truly did not exist, and we are all just mindless sheep, following some invisible hoax?

But the one thing that kept me grasped to my belief was something I only mentioned briefly in my testimony: A vision of heaven. During my exorcism, I was exhausted and confused, but at one point, at one holy moment, when three men were standing around me, singing, praising the Lord, banishing a vile entity from my sacred soul, I closed my eyes. Time stopped. I sat there, and as I wanted to open my eyes, just before that action, I saw a great white flash. To describe it would be like watching a detailed frame of a film, flashing by, but what I saw, I still carry in my thoughts today. What I saw was a mind-captured split second of a majestic and paramount realm.

Now, this is hard to explain in words, but I saw everything in contrasts of black and white. Imagine one of those wide pictures they make by combining a number of photos to make a huge scenario. I watched and I saw a huge, and I mean, a great flying creature. My thoughts scramble when I try to remember what it looked like. All I can remember is that it was brightly illuminated against the background, and was slowly flapping its colossal wings with the grace of some heavenly creature. All this I captured and cherish in one brief moment of this perception of time that we have.

Every time I doubted the existence of my most loving Jesus, the Great FATHER, CREATOR, and MENTOR, and the blessed and mysterious Heavenly Spirit, I remembered this great testimony of my thoughts. How do I see this, if my eyes were closed? Because I believe this vision was a feast for my soul's eyes.

This conviction that I am tightly bonded to has brought me to the decision to wield every ounce of energy I carry in my fragile human state in search of the Truth of my God. I will not rest before I find this truth, and upon finding it, I will cherish it above the life of everything I can imagine to hold dear in my life on earth.

I believe that now some of you may understand my fear of sin, my fear of causing sorrow for my most Blessed Father when I tread on unholy soil. I believe now some of you understand why I am so eager to find the Truth that lies in His Grace - and that truth will lead me closer to Him. My conversion has left a void that I am trying to fill with my conviction, and it is slowly getting to the point where it will flood over the sides, and when I may be ready to preach the Good News once more - armed with the Power granted by the Blessed Grace of Jesus Christ, Almighty.

That is my aim.

God bless
 
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indonesianpalmtree

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Hey folks!

I just wanted to open this thread to say that I'm going to leave CF for forty days.

You may reply if you want, but I doubt I'll be checking any replies. I cannot say the reason, because I'll change my mind again, so I wish you all my love and blessings to continue the great work that you are on CF.

Cheerio, see you in forty...;)

Lovingly,

Pieter

God bless! God bless!
 
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(In case you missed the other thread)...
Pieter,
Let me guess,...? Forty days, and forty nights? :p

May the LORD bless you, and keep you:
May the LORD make his face shine upon you, and be gracious unto you:
May the LORD lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace. :pray:

Be safe, take best care, and I'll "talk" to you soon.
Keep the faith, brother, and let the Lord continue to guide you. :hug:
God bless
Lisa
 
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