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TScott said:The thing of it is, AA for education is extremely important, and fair. If society is not going to properly fund public high schools in low income areas, which are inhabited almost exclusively by minorities, then it seems very unfair to hold these kids to the same standards on entrance exams as kids who have had the benefit of well funded schools.
The federal government has no jurisdiction there. They tried to exert pressure on the school districts in the seventies with the "bussing" fiasco. In some cities it's not even enough to give them the funding, in some inner city areas all the funding in the world is not going to attract teachers when the schools resemble war zones, however when you have students that are obviously college material it is very important to afford them the opportunities. These kids, in many cases, will and have come back with the training needed to turn things around in their old 'hoods.Neverstop said:It seems one good way to off-set the imbalances would be to revamp the status quo concerning property taxes. All public schools in any given state should be given the same funding based on student population.
TScott said:The federal government has no jurisdiction there. They tried to exert pressure on the school districts in the seventies with the "bussing" fiasco. In some cities it's not even enough to give them the funding, in some inner city areas all the funding in the world is not going to attract teachers when the schools resemble war zones, however when you have students that are obviously college material it is very important to afford them the opportunities. These kids, in many cases, will and have come back with the training needed to turn things around in their old 'hoods.
Neverstop said:It is in the best interest of the Fed. gov. to have jurisdiction there.
Neverstop said:It seems one good way to off-set the imbalances would be to revamp the status quo concerning property taxes. All public schools in any given state should be given the same funding based on student population.
Neverstop said:C'mon...isn't that taking what I said to the extreme?
mhatten said:The Texas Supreme Court just struckdown the use of property taxes to fund schools.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aDGoJzcsvOvE
Neverstop said:What branch of government is resonsible for keeping Peace when the State levels fail?
Neverstop said:Define "State"
It's all about the spiral of violence in a society.
Maybe, but it would require an amendment to the constitution, which would be nearly impossible for obvious reasons (States will probably not be keen in relinquishing rights they are given by the tenth Amendment). It may be easier to nationalize the public school system, and that would be very difficult at best.Neverstop said:It is in the best interest of the Fed. gov. to have jurisdiction there.
TScott said:Maybe, but it would require an amendment to the constitution, which would be nearly impossible for obvious reasons (States will probably not be keen in relinquishing rights they are given by the tenth Amendment). It may be easier to nationalize the public school system, and that would be very difficult at best.
The system of AA in college admissions has an excellent record. You could fill a book with the thousands of success stories associated with it. Regardless of the myths you may hear on the internet, the only non-minority students that have been turned away because of AA have been students with marginal GPAs and SAT scores. Most of these students would probably be better off going to a community college for a year or two till they get their act together anyway.
Are there any statisitics or studies to substantiate a claim that the only non-minority students that have been turned away because of AA have been students with marginal GPAs and SAT scores? As I recall, there was a lawsuit by a student who was rejected for admission who claims otherwise.TScott said:Regardless of the myths you may hear on the internet, the only non-minority students that have been turned away because of AA have been students with marginal GPAs and SAT scores. Most of these students would probably be better off going to a community college for a year or two till they get their act together anyway.
I will have to check my post, I believe I said you'd be hard pressed to find a AMerican male Doctor. If I said it as if I have done a study, I appologize.Neverstop said:Is this claim based on any evidence that could be shared w/ the rest of us?
I'm sorry, but Oriental and Arabic covers are large geographic area in which not all countries would be considered 3rd world. Not to be picky or anythingBillnew said:I work with approx 20 Residents, 2-3 are Male white, 2 white females and the rest are minorities(very few African Americans(2maybe?))Oriental, Arabic, and other third world countries.
Could you cite the case? I'm referring to the policies. can there be occasional instances of exceptions? I suppose there could be, but if they are in court, I'm sure they will sort it out. I believe there was such a case a few years ago at Michigan, but it was involving admissions to a graduate school at the University, which would not fall under the auspices of Federal AA statutes.MachZer0 said:Are there any statisitics or studies to substantiate a claim that the only non-minority students that have been turned away because of AA have been students with marginal GPAs and SAT scores? As I recall, there was a lawsuit by a student who was rejected for admission who claims otherwise.
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