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Adventist: pre-Advent Judgment out of "books" - Dan 7 and Dan 8

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The judgment seat of Christ has nothing to do with JUDGMENT at all.

It is ONLY for born again believers! It is also called the "Bema Seat"!

You correctly posted Romans 14:10–12 which says, ...
“For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. . . . So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God”.

Also Second Corinthians 5:10 tells us as you posted .....
, “We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.”

When taken in In context, it is clear that both passages refer to Christians, not unbelievers. The judgment seat of Christ, therefore, involves believers giving an account of their lives to Christ.

The judgment seat of Christ does not determine salvation; that was determined by Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf and our faith in Him. All of our sins are forgiven, and we will never be condemned for them which is recorded in Romans 8..

YOU should not look at the judgment seat of Christ as God judging our sins, but rather as God rewarding us for our lives. Yes, as the Bible says, we will have to give an account of ourselves. Part of this is answering for the sins we committed. However, that is not going to be the primary focus of the judgment seat of Christ.

At the judgment seat of Christ, believers are rewarded based on how faithfully they served Christ (1 Corinthians 9:4-27; 2 Timothy 2:5).
 
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As a faithfull 7 Dat advantist I am sure that you want to believe that. However, real time recorded history does not support your opinions as it is easy to find from your OWN web sites that...........

"It was in February, 1845, on her “first journey East” that “the precious light in regard to the heavenly sanctuary” was opened to Ellen White (Letter 2, 1874). On February 15, 1846, she wrote Enoch Jacobs: IJWEGW 2.1

“God showed me the following, one year ago this month: I saw a throne and on it sat the Father and His Son Jesus Christ.... I saw the Father rise from the throne and in a flaming chariot go into the Holy of Holies within the veil, and did sit.... And I saw a cloudy chariot with wheels like flaming fire. Angels were all about the chariot as it came where Jesus was. He stepped into it and was borne to the Holiest where the Father sat.”—The Day-Star, March 14, 1846, p. 7. (See also Early Writings, 55.)

In her earliest account of the great controversy between Christ and Satan, published in 1858, she explained why Christ had entered the holy of holies in the heavenly sanctuary: IJWEGW 2.2

“As the priests in the earthly sanctuary entered the most holy once a year to cleanse the sanctuary, Jesus entered the most holy of the heavenly, at the end of the 2300 days of Daniel 8, in 1844, to make a final atonement for all who could be benefited by His mediation, and to cleanse the sanctuary....

“I saw that every case was then decided for life or death. Jesus had blotted out the sins of His people.... While Jesus had been ministering in the sanctuary, the judgment had been going on for the righteous dead, and then for the righteous living.”—1 SG 162, 197, 198.

Ellen White later adopted the phrase “investigative judgment” for this particular aspect of Christ’s ministry (The Spirit of Prophecy 4:266, etc.), though others appear to have used the term before she did (e.g., see James White, The Review and Herald, January 29, 1857, p. 100).

Source: The Investigative Judgment in the Writings of Ellen G. White — Ellen G. White Writings (egwwritings.org)
 
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I leave it to the objective unbiased readers to see for themselves if I am the only one posting on this thread or if its having 670 views means "I am the only one viewing"

On the Specific thread I posted on was only post from YOU and 1 more person.

Now Bob....you knew that so why the deceptive post??????
 
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I leave it to the objective unbiased readers to see for themselves if I am the only one posting on this thread or if its having 670 views means "I am the only one viewing"

On the Specific thread I posted on was only post from YOU and 1 more person.

Now Bob....you knew that so why the deceptive post??????

My post just states irrefutable facts. Do you find facts "deceptive"??
 
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In response to those Bible texts we can sometimes get this response

If you are suggesting Ellen Whites "Investigative Judgment" then you are in error as it is NOT BIBLICAL

Your false accusation could only work if someone thought those texts above were all written by Ellen White - (someone you are inserting into the post - because she is never quoted in it other than your attempt to insert)

I assume you can see this detail as easily as I can.

As a faithfull 7 Day adventist I am sure that you want to believe that.

It is entirely possible you can't see it I suppose. Do you have a point for those Bible texts above?

However, real time recorded history does not support your opinions as it is easy to find from your OWN web sites that...........

My post is not "all the websites of the world" -- rather it is the actual OP here.

care to respond??

"It was in February, 1845, on her “first journey East” that “the precious light in regard to the heavenly sanctuary” was opened to Ellen White

Will you be responding "Ellen White... Ellen White" to every Bible text posted???

You seem to be looking for an "all Ellen White thread" -- try reading the content of the OP and responding to those texts.

If you are waiting for me to object to the fact that Ellen White wrote statements in line with the texts in the OP --- you may be waiting a while.
 
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