Adam is explicitly a metaphorical reference, the word "adam" means "man" in Hebrew

[SkyWriting]

As the rib from the side is curved....LOL....who knows? Whichever one, God used it to "make woman / womb-man." Was it DNA as they were one person or was it a regenerative bone?

Other passages state that the woman is a complete compliment to the man.
This says she was made from "Adam stuff" and not Created from scratch.
Adam was still sinless and immortal at this point so its not valid to think
of this as we mortals might be concerned about this field surgery.

 

[YeShallTread]

Adam and Eve, being two, are enough to qualify as the "them" in "he made them in his image".

Allow me to rephrase that. As God said, "Let us make man in our image" and that the "sons of God shouted for joy" upon the foundation of the earth then...."our image" means more than in one image. Sons of God and men...plural.

No, I don't readily see. That the entire earth was repopulated by only eight people is seen in Gen 9:18-19 and 1 Pet 3:20.

Genesis 9:18-19 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan. These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.

The earth was overspread/scattered/dispersed with this family. They didn't father all people of all nations but God sent forth this family for they were His chosen...and would become Israel.
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1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Eight souls were saved by water. Did the flood waters "save" anyone? No, people were killed by literal water, not saved. The saving was done "while the ark was a preparing," not when the flooding began. The water that saved eight souls was spiritual water flowing from God because these eight believed and listened and prepared. Noah walked with God....
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Genesis 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
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Eight souls were saved during the preparation but more humans were saved during the flood...as written.

We were all dead in our sins before being made alive in Christ Jesus.

Indeed we are.

I have to say that the more you type, the more unorthodox your views appear. Is this idea held by your church?

Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in My name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

 

[YeShallTread]

Ye:>>The first chapter of Genesis pertains to the creation of mankind. The second chapter is about the man Adam...the beginning of the line leading to Jesus Christ.

God is Spirit...does that mean He is invisible?

Dear Ye, Yes. Jesus is the Image of the invisible Spirit of God. Here is the supporting Scripture:

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Jesus is God incarnate or in the physical. He tells us if you have seen Him you have seen the Father. In Jesus dweeleth ALL of the fulness of the Godhead Bodily. Jesus is LORD God of the Old Testament, and the only God you will ever see. No one has ever seen the Father, Jesus told us of Him. John 1:18

In Love,
Aman

Thank you Aman....I stand corrected.

I would ask though...is He invisible in the spiritual world? As we have "seen the Father" in the physical world through the Son then what of the spiritual realm? As Father and Son are One would not we see Him in the next life too?

Genesis 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
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[Aman777]

Ye:>>I would ask though...is He invisible in the spiritual world?

Dear Ye, I don't know, but what does Love look like? I think God looks like Jesus:

2Cr 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to [give] the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Ye:>>As we have "seen the Father" in the physical world through the Son then what of the spiritual realm? As Father and Son are One would not we see Him in the next life too?

Jesus said, Jhn 14:7 If ye had known Me, ye should have known My Father also: and from henceforth ye know Him, and have seen Him.

Genesis 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

Many men saw LORD God in the Old Testament. It was YHWH or Jesus, they saw. No man saw God (Elohim) since the Trinity is an invisible Spirit.

In Love,
Aman
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[ChetSinger]

Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in My name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Are you saying these beliefs come from personal revelation?

 

[YeShallTread]

Are you saying these beliefs come from personal revelation?

They come from His Word, for it is written, and from revelation. As we study or "search out a matter," He guides us to see/understand "whatsoever I have said unto you." All He has said unto us is written. There are no new things but there is greater understanding each day as we mature. The same passage we read last week can suddenly have deeper meaning. Fascinating process, this "living Word"...isn't it?

 

[ChetSinger]

They come from His Word, for it is written, and from revelation. As we study or "search out a matter," He guides us to see/understand "whatsoever I have said unto you." All He has said unto us is written. There are no new things but there is greater understanding each day as we mature. The same passage we read last week can suddenly have deeper meaning. Fascinating process, this "living Word"...isn't it?

Yes. But on this subject I'm sticking with the traditional reading.

 

[YeShallTread]

Yes. But on this subject I'm sticking with the traditional reading.

Many good folks do.

 

[mog144]

People think adam is a name, but it is not. It is just the Hebrew word for mankind.

All of the rebuttals are futile without having the right stuff to begin with. Some say that 'Adam' was not this or that but what was it, really? If we begin on the wrong foot we end up on the wrong foot, meaning that we end up with a wrong conclusion of our current condition for our lack of knowledge.

People debate over a 'man' that changed from spirit to flesh. The man 'Adam' was first 'Created' as Spirit on day-6 and that ONE man was both Male and Female. It was not the same life form as it was after the Creation account closed. The commandment was given to ONE man on day-6 so that both the male and female would BOTH receive the law in their hearts and minds, because they were first spirits before made flesh.

God then separated the woman from the man and made them individual gender in flesh and this flesh was a result of their transgression. Has anybody read the ancient books of Adam and Eve and compared with the (shallow) 3 chapters in the Biblical Genesis? You will find that our present Biblical book of Genesis says so little because it really says so much.

There's a hidden agenda to push scholars away from the truth of Genesis so that satan may deceive the entire world in the last-day so that we misidentify the true coming Messiah. Where ever there's an emphasis and a push you will find a hidden agenda, ALWAYS!

There's a great deal of details missing from the stripped version of our present-day Protestant perspective of Genesis and the reason is there's been a serious attack on the truth of our origin.

We were created but not intended to be or remain in this fallen flesh, so what are we comparing to? We are bringing God down from heaven and equating Him with us, we trodden the Godhead. We have evolved but not from slime, rather we have evolved from the 'slime-satan' who designed us as we are.

The endeavor to push our thoughts away from Evolution is to push us away from exposing the serpent and his offspring of human-apes. We have become the amalgamation of man and beast by a spiritual manifestation that developed through evolution.

Don't expect the truth from either Creationists or Evolutionists because they both have their stories wrong. The serpent is sitting back and laughing at the world as they argue over his lies, while he skates by undetected.

The ancient books of Adam and Eve are more credible than man's present-day Protestant theology.

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[ChetSinger]

...God then separated the woman from the man and made them individual gender in flesh and this flesh was a result of their transgression. Has anybody read the ancient books of Adam and Eve and compared with the (shallow) 3 chapters in the Biblical Genesis? You will find that our present Biblical book of Genesis says so little because it really says so much.

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The ancient books of Adam and Eve are more credible than man's present-day Protestant theology...

Paul distinguished Jewish scripture from Jewish myths, and warned us to stay away from the latter.

 

[Calminian]

....People debate over a 'man' that changed from spirit to flesh. The man 'Adam' was first 'Created' as Spirit on day-6 and that ONE man was both Male and Female. It was not the same life form as it was after the Creation account closed. The commandment was given to ONE man on day-6 so that both the male and female would BOTH receive the law in their hearts and minds, because they were first spirits before made flesh.

What is your source for this?

God then separated the woman from the man and made them individual gender in flesh and this flesh was a result of their transgression. Has anybody read the ancient books of Adam and Eve and compared with the (shallow) 3 chapters in the Biblical Genesis? You will find that our present Biblical book of Genesis says so little because it really says so much.

There are some extra-biblical sources that speak about antediluvian times, such as the book of Jasher which is referenced in the Bible in several places. But there's some problems in taking these as perfectly reliable. It's not that they can't contribute to our understanding of history, but only the accounts of Genesis have been inspired and preserved. Jasher may or may not be perfectly preserved.

You also need to understand there's a reason why we know so little about the antediluvian world. God wanted to erase that culture from human memory. It was so vial that He wanted to blot out everything about it for our sake. He didn't want us remembering and emulating their customs and practices. Therefore it's unlikely Noah would have brought a library with him.

I do believe we have glimpses of that world though mythologies and legends, and there may even been some truth to the writings preserved in the book of Jasher and other sources that Josephus had access to. But the preserved inspired writings in Genesis contain all we need to know for faith and practice. God didn't short change us.

There's a great deal of details missing from the stripped version of our present-day Protestant perspective of Genesis and the reason is there's been a serious attack on the truth of our origin.

What has been stripped? Genesis contains very good intact accounts. The flood account in impeccable. In all of the legends we have of the flood around the world, there's nothing like it. It is a clean refined masterpiece, probably penned by Noah's sons who were eyewitnesses to all the events recorded.

We were created but not intended to be or remain in this fallen flesh, so what are we comparing to? We are bringing God down from heaven and equating Him with us, we trodden the Godhead. We have evolved but not from slime, rather we have evolved from the 'slime-satan' who designed us as we are.

This sounds a lot like the gnostic heresy which claims that flesh is intrinsically bad. John the apostle specifically refuted them emphasizing that Jesus was raised in the flesh.

The original very good creation was physical and material, and Adam was made of flesh before he fell, as was Eve. Jesus today is of flesh and bone, as we will be forever.

The serpent is sitting back and laughing at the world as they argue over his lies, while he skates by undetected.

He's laughing because he knows how easy it is to get people to doubt the Bible and believe uninspired books. It's a very old and effective tactic he's been implementing for several millennia.