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whitebeaches

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you certainly are entitled to your opinion chinchillin but when tragedy strikes theres no telling how your brain is going to be able to handle the trauma. some really good people both christian and non christian who have seen tragedy have a hrd time dealing with it and the trauma is too much to handle that some lose their minds and need thereapy to help them and some may bounce back while others never do. and some may end their lives while others do not. these actions do not in any way reflect ones beliefs. A faithful christian can have such terrible circumstances happen that can throw a speed bump in their walk . it can leave them deeply wounded and feeling like they are alone and god has forsaken them. and when things go from worse to worst it is the hardest thing to get back on track. and sometimes unfortunately u just cant. but god understands and still loves us and even when we are hurting he is there and even when we nake the wrong decisions he still loves us and he loves this family and he understands that the situation was too big for them to handle and he still loved them and i am thankful that he is merciful and that his love and mnercy endures forever.
 
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some do have a sound mind and know how to handle what has been thrown at them. some cant. its so sad. one can honestly have jesus in their heart and make a choice that isnt right. Until we walk in someones shoes we have no idea what theyve gone through.
 
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It's hard to want to say something and not have the words, but really, I doubt anything you could say would stop the pain and grief they feel. However, you certainly could counter the false and hurtful things being said to the family.

False: Suicide is unforgiveable. Truth: No sin is unforgiveable. Jesus' blood covers ALL sin.

False: The child is in hell. Truth: The child is with Jesus. Jesus is the Judge. He decides what to do with that child. And what do you think the One who said, "Let the little children come to me" would do?

False: God is eager to punish sin. Truth: God is eager to forgive sin and extend mercy.

False: God is harsh and mean. Truth: God is gentle, loving, and compassionate. Although His holiness demands justice, His wrath against sin was poured out on Jesus on the cross. He LONGS to be in fellowship with us. He yearns over us like the father of the prodigal son who RAN to meet his returning son.

False: God is impatient with weak people. Truth: God constantly, in both the Old and New Testaments, talks about the importance of encouraging and supporting and helping the weak, not condemning them.


You're right. I'm not sure why I all the sudden felt so strongly about this. I guess because my wife and I went out there last weekend for a benefit they were putting on for the family. It was the first time I've seen any of them since my buddy died, and it was pretty emotional for me. I've been in Afghanistan the majority of the last 2 years and I didn't find out about any of the stuff that happened to his family until just recently when I returned home. If you knew them you'd know why I care so much. They were people you don't forget because they touched so many lives and helped so many people. It's natural to want to help people when they're down, but that urge is even stronger when you're talking about people like this. And for the record, they were not weak or unable to cope or anything like that. Matter of fact they were strongest people I ever met, and you all don't even know the half of what drove them to their "end". And chinchilla, you don't know anything about my buddy. He could've done anything. He had all different kinds of opportunities, but he chose to be a Marine because he wanted to make a difference in the world. And he did. He made a huge difference in the world. You just don't know it. Somebody showed me a couple letters he wrote to his kids during his last deployment, and I wish I could find them to post here because then maybe you'd see. He was a human being with real feelings and emotions. He was a good guy, his wife was a great christian woman, and I'm sure they and their kids are in heaven now and not worried about all this crap down here. I'm at the lowest point in my life as far as faith goes, but I have to believe that. I know that nothing I say or do can make their family feel better. I don't know why that crazy thought even entered my mind. I guess just after seeing them last weekend, I felt so helpless. I know there are people who torment them with this kind of talk, and I just wanted to be able to reassure them that everything's going to be ok. I don't know for sure that it is, but I want to believe it.
 
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Hey Dannyboy.

Knowing what I know about this family and their story, I feel there is NO WAY that little fellow is not sitting in the glory of God. I wish I was some Bible scholar and could give you specifics to back it up on, but I'm not so I hope you'll just take my word for it.

The Lord is merciful and faithful to those who are faithful to Him, and nothing leads me to believe this family was anything but good and faithful.

There are always going to be people who disrespect our troops, being a Vietnam Vet I know that well. They turn their hate for war (who doesn't hate war?) into a hate for the men who are chosen to carry it out. It's not right, but I guess in a way it's understandable. It took me years, but I've finally come to terms with it.

Your buddy was not an evil man for what he did. He was a brave man doing a very necessary job that most could never even fathom. Most civilians (and non-combat troops for that matter) will never see the necessity for the battles we fight because brave men stand on the front lines and keep the clear and present danger out of the public view. I guarantee you that if there was ever an invasion on our own soil that these very people who dishonor and disrespect our troops would be singing a much different tune, and they would very soon come to realize that these are the boys who keep us safe.

Don't lose your faith brother. You know your buddy wouldn't want that on account of him or any of this nonsense. That little fella is up there with his family. I don't have any doubts about that.

If you find those letters, please do post them. It's good for people to see the human side of war sometimes.

God bless you brother.
 
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