Absurdities of so called science

[Nathan Poe]

I can't take the credit for your choices, as we both know.

Then don't.

I think they were made before I ever posted here.

Knowledge over ignorance, reason over superstition, thought over blather -- I will give you credit, dad, for helping me confirm I made the right choices.

My beliefs are anything but alone.

Even the most obvious loon can attract a following of the truly desperate.

People, I would think read threads for content, and an actual exchange of ideas.

Then present an idea beyond self-glorification.

Is it any wonder when you spam more in a thread, and are unable to honestly debate any ideas, or defend any cohesive case, I see no one else posting? Work on that.

Work on what? I cannot use reason against someone who demands magic.

Of course, it's not as though your magic accomplishes anything -- even it can't make you as important as you wish you were.

 

[Nathan Poe]

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Not really -- I'd thought you left.

 

[dad]

Knowledge over ignorance, reason over superstition, thought over blather -- I will give you credit, dad, for helping me confirm I made the right choices.

Thanks. Glad you are happy.

Even the most obvious loon can attract a following of the truly desperate.

So, that is how you characterize millions that disagree with you. OK.

Then present an idea beyond self-glorification.

The absurdities of science do not glorify me. They make me ashamed that I am part of the race! To actually think that mankind could become so debased, and deluded, and fallen, and believing the enemy of God, and our souls, as man is now. To actually believe, and teach kids that we are mere beasts, and relatives to vermin, and four footed beasts, in a meaningless universe that sailed out of an imaginary speck! Unbelieveable. To have a sytem of so called knowledge and so called science that leaves out God, and the spiritual by design, and religiously, and by force of law!! To have embraced so wholeheartedly the harmful homosexual ways of Sodom! To have leaders of nations that unrestrictedly, and gleefully destroy unborn men, or use them as ingredients!!! Etc.

No, looking at the basis of science is a worthwhile exercise. So, no need to patronize.

Work on what? I cannot use reason against someone who demands magic.

You cannot limit the magic of God, to the drool realities that physical only present science is able to play with, as a toddler, stacking blocks. All science can do is stand back, and beg forgivness for such extreme ignorance. In that light, in their proper little place, they are fine.

Of course, it's not as though your magic accomplishes anything -- even it can't make you as important as you wish you were.

We never knew we were important till the Almighty God came down here, and died for us. He also promised we would live forever with Him, and made a place for us to rule forever with Him! We are the joint heirs with God. If you think I want to trade this for some depraved and debased delusion that men are as worms, and beasts, with no purpose, or life, or spirit, or hope, you really better look somewhere else.

How goes the teaching these days? Retired yet?

 

[Nathan Poe]

So, that is how you characterize millions that disagree with you. OK.

There are not millions of people who don't agree with my assessment of you, dad -- there are not even millions of people who know you.

Why do you persist in using religious faith for self-glorification?

The absurdities of science do not glorify me.

No, the absurdities of your own words do that.

They make me ashamed that I am part of the race!

The feeling is mutual.

To actually think that mankind could become so debased, and deluded, and fallen, and believing the enemy of God, and our souls, as man is now.

Which enemy is that, dad?

To actually believe, and teach kids that we are mere beasts, and relatives to vermin, and four footed beasts, in a meaningless universe that sailed out of an imaginary speck! Unbelieveable.

Mais tout a fait.

To think, instead, that this infinite universe with mysteries just waiting to be uncovered was cobbled together by an archetypical father figure just to be handed over to the likes of you! Preposterous.

To have a sytem of so called knowledge and so called science that leaves out God, and the spiritual by design, and religiously, and by force of law!!

Design, religion, and law have asked you to provide something useful -- you've never succeeded.

To have embraced so wholeheartedly the harmful homosexual ways of Sodom!

I wasn't aware that science embraced homosexuality -- I also wasn't aware that you were so ignorant of your Bible to think that Sodom's primary sin was homosexuality.

To have leaders of nations that unrestrictedly, and gleefully destroy unborn men, or use them as ingredients!!! Etc.

I wasn't aware that such actions were either "unrestricted" or "gleeful." probably because they are not.

Have I meantioned how much I enjoy my descision to embrace rationality over hysterics?

No, looking at the basis of science is a worthwhile exercise. So, no need to patronize.

And would you say that the basis of science -- the basis which you will undoubtedly say is flawed -- is that it refuses to operate under the same presuppositions as you yourself do?

You cannot limit the magic of God, to the drool realities that physical only present science is able to play with, as a toddler, stacking blocks.

And you cannot diminish "physical only present science" by comparing it to something which only exists in mythology.

All science can do is stand back, and beg forgivness for such extreme ignorance. In that light, in their proper little place, they are fine.

Beg forgiveness from whom? Certainly not God -- as He has not asked for any, and certainly not you, as you don't merit any.

We never knew we were important till the Almighty God came down here, and died for us.

And yet, you're still unimportant. Funny that, dad.

He also promised we would live forever with Him, and made a place for us to rule forever with Him! We are the joint heirs with God.

Nice promise, isn't it? makes you feel all sorts of important.

If you think I want to trade this for some depraved and debased delusion that men are as worms, and beasts, with no purpose, or life, or spirit, or hope, you really better look somewhere else.

I wouldn't expect you to -- only one "delusion" serves to glorify you.

How goes the teaching these days? Retired yet?

Not even close. Busy as ever, teaching new generations where our myths come from.

 

[dad]

Which enemy is that, dad?

The one you said was so interesting.

To think, instead, that this infinite universe with mysteries just waiting to be uncovered was cobbled together by an archetypical father figure just to be handed over to the likes of you! Preposterous.

It isn't opinion that matters! It is up to people posing as science teachers, to admit that just about everything is a mystery. Then, there would be no problem. Because to science it will be a mystery. They haven't the wherewithal to solve it!!

Design, religion, and law have asked you to provide something useful -- you've never succeeded.

Have they!!?? Where did they do this!? On a street, with a tin hat, and a loudspeaker?? Law, 'design' and religion ask me squat FYI!! Science however, is asked to support it's claims.

I wasn't aware that science embraced homosexuality -- I also wasn't aware that you were so ignorant of your Bible to think that Sodom's primary sin was homosexuality.

Education does! Science helps all it can, by giving us abortion pills, sex change operations, and all sorts of things I shudder to mention.

Have I meantioned how much I enjoy my descision to embrace rationality over hysterics?

How does one do that, exactly, by becoming a poe?

And would you say that the basis of science -- the basis which you will undoubtedly say is flawed -- is that it refuses to operate under the same presuppositions as you yourself do?

No. It is tied to a peg, and walks in a rut, not too far from the peg!

And you cannot diminish "physical only present science" by comparing it to something which only exists in mythology.

I don't pick on little guys, I am not a bully. It is already debased to hell, and diminished, in being exposed as a runt, and insignificant in the big spiritual also picture. I have no intention to hit it, --unless it tries to get up again

Beg forgiveness from whom? Certainly not God -- as He has not asked for any, and certainly not you, as you don't merit any.

The fable meisters that masqueraded as science big shots, ought to beg forgiveness of all that have been tortured by their lies.

And yet, you're still unimportant. Funny that, dad.

Not in God's eyes, and that is all that counts.

Not even close. Busy as ever, teaching new generations where our myths come from.

I see. OK. I wish your kids could read one of these threads. Or your employers.

 

[Nathan Poe]

The one you said was so interesting.

I've been addressing you, dad -- you know how little your statement narrows it down?

It isn't opinion that matters! It is up to people posing as science teachers, to admit that just about everything is a mystery. Then, there would be no problem. Because to science it will be a mystery. They haven't the wherewithal to solve it!!

They've solved quite a bit so far -- and they freely admit there's more to do.

What have you accomplished besides mooching off their achievements?

Have they!!?? Where did they do this!? On a street, with a tin hat, and a loudspeaker?? Law, 'design' and religion ask me squat FYI!!

And you deliver it -- in abundance.

Science however, is asked to support it's claims.

And so it does -- which is why it succeeds and you fail.

Education does! Science helps all it can, by giving us abortion pills, sex change operations, and all sorts of things I shudder to mention.

Shudder all you want, dad -- nobody cares.

How does one do that, exactly, by becoming a poe?

Nope, it's actually quite simple -- once you give up the quest for self-glorification, that is.

No. It is tied to a peg, and walks in a rut, not too far from the peg!

Whereas you personally are unfettered by such things, and are free to worship whatever you can imagine.

I don't pick on little guys, I am not a bully. It is already debased to hell, and diminished, in being exposed as a runt, and insignificant in the big spiritual also picture. I have no intention to hit it, --unless it tries to get up again

Alas, it's up and running -- and it's long since revealed you to be the insignificant one.

You are a little man in a big universe, dad -- might as well accept it.

The fable meisters that masqueraded as science big shots, ought to beg forgiveness of all that have been tortured by their lies.

No such fable meisters exist -- you're thinking of those unfortunate enough to take fables literally when that was never the purpose.

Physician, heal thyself.

Not in God's eyes, and that is all that counts.

You mean your own eyes, dad -- you're the one who thinks God has a use for you.

I see. OK. I wish your kids could read one of these threads. Or your employers.

What makes you think they haven't?

 

[dad]

I've been addressing you, dad -- you know how little your statement narrows it down?

Try addressing the debate Don't worry about me.

They've solved quite a bit so far -- and they freely admit there's more to do.

I wish they would do less, we might live longer. They will never begin to solve the problems of man anyhow.

And so it does -- which is why it succeeds and you fail.

They have failed. I don't need to succed, the bible and God do that for me. I just enjoy the ride.

You are a little man in a big universe, dad -- might as well accept it.

Little heirs of all things matter. Really. Our Dad owns it all.

No such fable meisters exist -- you're thinking of those unfortunate enough to take fables literally when that was never the purpose.

Nope. They exist. The fables are here, and called science, falsely. They speak of a dark place, that never saw the light of day. One they made up!

Physician, heal thyself.

I am good to go..to eternity. No more death, sickness, or pain. I am healed bigtime. Any dying of the body is of no more concern than growing a new leaf on a tree!

You mean your own eyes, dad -- you're the one who thinks God has a use for you.
[/quote[ He has a use for everyone, even the devil. Cheer up.

What makes you think they haven't?

If they did, you would be retired, I suspect?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Try addressing the debate Don't worry about me.

This "debate" doesn't need professional help -- I care about my fellow man.

I wish they would do less, we might live longer. They will never begin to solve the problems of man anyhow.

They've already solved some of them -- but since they won't solve them all, shall you worship a God of futility?

They have failed. I don't need to succed, the bible and God do that for me. I just enjoy the ride.

So you're mooching off everyone's achievments -- Science's and God's?

Is it my understanding that you're just going to sit there and wait for your God to hand you the universe?

Little heirs of all things matter. Really. Our Dad owns it all.

Ah, that's right -- you're the son of God.

Nope. They exist. The fables are here, and called science, falsely. They speak of a dark place, that never saw the light of day. One they made up!

Says the little man who believes in other peoples' fables without bothering to learn about them.

I am good to go..to eternity. No more death, sickness, or pain. I am healed bigtime. Any dying of the body is of no more concern than growing a new leaf on a tree!

And yet for all your big talk, I'll bet you still look both ways before you cross the street.

He has a use for everyone, even the devil. Cheer up.

mythical characters usually have use for other mythical characters -- this is one time, dad, that living in the real world is a disadvantage.

No wonder you resent it so much.

If they did, you would be retired, I suspect?

Wrong again, dad -- but then again, your "suspicions" have never matched up with reality.

 

[dad]

mythical characters usually have use for other mythical characters -- this is one time, dad, that living in the real world is a disadvantage.
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I couln't care less about your opinion of what is mythical, you have no clue, or way of declaring ancient records of man anything at all. My so called myth sets the time on your computer, and calandar at your school, and the Christmas, and Easter holidays.

As for reality, we all live here and see how it works. If you want to waft so called science scenarios into the far future or past, you need to back it up in a real way, and put evidence on the table. We know you can't, so maybe let that be the last word, stay down.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I couln't care less about your opinion of what is mythical, you have no clue, or way of declaring ancient records of man anything at all.

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My so called myth sets the time on your computer, and calandar at your school, and the Christmas, and Easter holidays.

Ah, but it was other, better myths which set the days of the week and the months of the year. And considering that the Christmas and Easter holidays have at least as much pagan myth behind them as Christian, <staff edit>

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As for reality, we all live here and see how it works. If you want to waft so called science scenarios into the far future or past, you need to back it up in a real way, and put evidence on the table. We know you can't, so maybe let that be the last word, stay down.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Got any? <staff edit>

 

[dad]

Ah, but it was other, better myths which set the days of the week and the months of the year. And considering that the Christmas and Easter holidays have at least as much pagan myth behind them as Christian,<stff edit>

No, actually, it was Christ. AD. Look it up.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Got any? <staff edit>

The claims of godless so called science that the universe will burn out one day, and that it popped out of mommy speck o soup are extraordinary. The passing gas of the fables invented by present state religious so called science will pass. The air will be clear one day.

Those that invent imaginary worlds, based on assuming what they can't prove, have lost the ability to pretend to speak from any standpoint of knowledge ..i.e. science.

 

[Danyc]

Did dad just try to quote himself?

 

[Philothei]

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[Parogar]

No, actually, it was Christ. AD. Look it up.



The claims of godless so called science that the universe will burn out one day, and that it popped out of mommy speck o soup are extraordinary. The passing gas of the fables invented by present state religious so called science will pass. The air will be clear one day.

I agree with Dad. It is so much more logical, and reasonable to just agree with everything one particular book says. After all, someone wrote it down, so it MUST be true!.

I find it hard to believe that someone like Dad is using words like
Fables,
invented,
clear.

Don't you ever stop and say to yourself Dad, WOW every single thing that I believe in life, is based off of ONE book. ONE single book, that ANYONE could have written. Not to mention that this book has been in the care of political leaders, over and over again, and we ALL know we can trust them right? I mean, if a KING has the bible, such as King James, we all know that political figures are so trustworthy and honest, and there's no way he could have shoved his own agenda in there....

 

[dad]

I agree with Dad. It is so much more logical, and reasonable to just agree with everything one particular book says. After all, someone wrote it down, so it MUST be true!.

I find it hard to believe that someone like Dad is using words like
Fables,
invented,
clear.

Don't you ever stop and say to yourself Dad, WOW every single thing that I believe in life, is based off of ONE book. ONE single book, that ANYONE could have written. Not to mention that this book has been in the care of political leaders, over and over again, and we ALL know we can trust them right? I mean, if a KING has the bible, such as King James, we all know that political figures are so trustworthy and honest, and there's no way he could have shoved his own agenda in there....

Every single thing anyone believes is based on something, or should be. The problem with so called science, is that they have simply made stuff up, based on nothing but imagination. That is actually what the scientific method is, when it is taken out of the known and observed area where it applies, and is observed.

If God allowed any agenda anywhere, He could have used a weakness or fault of man, that is true. He used David for a lot of things, yet David was in some ways a real weak sinner. God uses the devil, and Judas, and will use the Anti Christ as well. He even uses so called science, and fables of man.

He uses so called science in the same way He uses delusion, for some, if the reject the truth, best I can figure.

Kids, watch out, don't let the devil fool you, with the insane stories of some alternate creation, that can never have any basis in fact.

 

[Jester4kicks]

Every single thing anyone believes is based on something, or should be. The problem with so called science, is that they have simply made stuff up, based on nothing but imagination. That is actually what the scientific method is, when it is taken out of the known and observed area where it applies, and is observed.

The irony is absolutely overwhelming.

 

[Hespera]

Irony isnt it. Try "projection". People who do it should read up on it. It is embarrassing to watch.

 

[dad]

The irony is absolutely overwhelming.

That has to be the way it is, when the lie, and the truth are opposites! If man has thought a certain belief based set of origin explanations, (like the same past based science models, that have led to absurd conclusions) and finds out that the truth is diametrically opposed to that, it is bound to be a shock to the system.

I truly believe that any intelligent human being ought to cringe at least a little when they see the absurd conclusions of so called science. I would really hate to be so educated, that I became dead to caring about the absurdities.

No one can contest that the dream scenarios of so called science are all based on a present model! And no one can prove that present laws apply in either the far past or future.

They have, therefore no right to throw stones at other belief based models. Especially when they are nased on actual observations and records of real men of the past.

The victory over the foundational lie of so called science that I have enjoyed for years now, is only confirmed no matter what evidences I look at.

 

[Jester4kicks]

No one can contest that the dream scenarios of so called science are all based on a present model! And no one can prove that present laws apply in either the far past or future..

Sure they can. The fact that you can't accept any explanation that doesn't incorporate your little fairy tale simply prevents you from understanding anything outside of that fairy tale.

 

[MoonLancer]

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i mean no disrespect but this 'topic' was created as flame bait.

it should have been trashed at the first post.