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[Desk trauma]

Now I agree there shouldn't be violence against them.

Unless the state is doing the violence of course.

 

[Gene2memE]

'I support Russia because I endorse the same kind of bigotry' really isn't the sort of flex you think it is.

 

[variant]

I didn't say I agreed with how certain things are done: I agreed with the laws.
However, we all know you can't really legislate morality.

The laws are part of an attempt to enforce a state morality on homosexuals.

I also don't believe homosexuality is a"western disease" as that article states. It is a SIN, and is world wide. However, I do understand the Russians point of view when they see the blatant abuses in America, and this page with a rainbow flag on the US Department of States own website?
Now I agree there shouldn't be violence against them. But when they speak of advancing rights, that also includes the agenda, of which there is.

Freedom of speech is a basic human right. You think disagreeing with you should be against the law by divine right and instead favor state sponsored bigotry and oppression.

You can't have it both ways. If the state is going to use violence to keep people from disagreeing with you and you support it, then you are in favor of state violence against homosexuals.

The further resulting social violence against homosexuals that happens beyond that is a bit too far for you eh?

 

[Laodicean60]

You were praising Putin's treatment of the LGBTQ community. So, yes you value being mean to gay people. I am putting their treatment as a group in Russia diplomatically.

Personally I would take the wests comparatively lower levels of corruption as a moral barometer rather than fawning over state sponsored bigotry.

The problem with the world is that the West has a holier-than-thou attitude and wants the rest of the world to conform to our beliefs. We live in a big world and different countries have different beliefs and cultures, I think this is one of the main reasons China, Russia, and many others want to separate from the West's ideology and control. It is sad the way some people are treated in other countries but it should be up to those people to change their government.

 

[variant]

The problem with the world is that the West has a holier-than-thou attitude and wants the rest of the world to conform to our beliefs. We live in a big world and different countries have different beliefs and cultures, I think this is one of the main reasons China, Russia, and many others want to separate from the West's ideology and control. It is sad the way some people are treated in other countries but it should be up to those people to change their government.

A holier-than-thou attitude seems more appropriate for those praising the politics of Vladimir Putin because of his ill treatment of gay people for religious reasons.

Or, we could reference Putin's view of the world as a literal holier-than-thou attitude on the subject exclaiming the wests moral degeneracy and their superiority.

Or, we could notice that the current difficulty with Russia isn't their treatment of gay people but invading their neighbors.

 

[Laodicean60]

A holier-than-thou attitude seems more appropriate for those praising the politics of Vladimir Putin because of his ill treatment of gay people for religious reasons.

What makes it our business how they treat their people when we have plenty of problems at home. The Russian people will work it out on their own including China. Our culture and beliefs aren't their beliefs so why force it on them? If you think we should impose our beliefs, that is arrogant.

Or, we could notice that the current difficulty with Russia isn't their treatment of gay people but invading their neighbors.

Cause and effect. Search for the cause and you'll know the effect because everything is not what they tell us.

 

[variant]

What makes it our business how they treat their people when we have plenty of problems at home. The Russian people will work it out on their own including China. Our culture and beliefs aren't their beliefs so why force it on them? If you think we should impose our beliefs, that is arrogant.

Cause and effect. Search for the cause and you'll know the effect because everything is not what they tell us.

You're a bit off topic. My admonishment was in response to someone directly praising Putin's policies toward Gays. The US has had no policy to change that or "force" that on them.

So, what you're talking about is a bit out there. I am specifically allowed to state my distaste for such policies when someone praises them as an ideal of theirs and that is what I have done.

Forcing ones ideals on others is a lot more like what Russia is doing to Ukraine, forcefully taking it's territory to directly rule them through force.