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1 King 17:1 Now Elijah the Tishbite, from Tishbe in Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the Lord, the God of Israel, lives, whom I serve, there will be neither dew nor rain in the next few years except at my word.”

What is Tishbite? Is Elijah a Jews? From which tribe?
 

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1 King 17:1 Now Elijah the Tishbite, from Tishbe in Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the Lord, the God of Israel, lives, whom I serve, there will be neither dew nor rain in the next few years except at my word.”

What is Tishbite? Is Elijah a Jews? From which tribe?
Tishbite [H]

Elijah the prophet was thus named ( 1 Kings 17:1 ; 1 Kings 21:17 1 Kings 21:28 , etc.). In 1 Kings 17:1 the word rendered "inhabitants" is in the original the same as that rendered "Tishbite," hence that verse may be read as in the LXX., "Elijah the Tishbite of Tishbi in Gilead." Some interpret this word as meaning "stranger," and read the verse, "Elijah the stranger from among the strangers in Gilead." This designation is probably given to the prophet as denoting that his birthplace was Tishbi, a place in Upper Galilee (mentioned in the apocryphal book of Tobit), from which for some reason he migrated into Gilead. Josephus, the Jewish historian (Ant 1 Kings 8:13 1 Kings 8:2 ), however, supposes that Tishbi was some place in the land of Gilead. It has been identified by some with el-Ishtib, a some place 22 miles due south of the Sea of Galilee, among the mountains of Gilead.
Tishbite Definition and Meaning - Bible Dictionary
 
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1 King 17:1 Now Elijah the Tishbite, from Tishbe in Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the Lord, the God of Israel, lives, whom I serve, there will be neither dew nor rain in the next few years except at my word.”

What is Tishbite? Is Elijah a Jews? From which tribe?

In Judaism there is a song sung about EliYahu:

EliYahu ha Navi,
EliYahu ha Tishvi,
EliYahu, EliYahu, EliYahu ha Giladi
Bimherah beyameinu, yavo eleinu
Em Moshiakh ben David, Em Moshiakh ben David

Elijah the prophet,
Elijah the Tishbite,
Elijah, Elijah, Elijah the Gileadite
Come soon in our day,
with the Messiah the son of David, with the Messiah the son of David.
 
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1 King: 13:18 The old prophet answered, “I too am a prophet, as you are. And an angel said to me by the word of the Lord: ‘Bring him back with you to your house so that he may eat bread and drink water.’” (But he was lying to him.)
24 As he went on his way, a lion met him on the road and killed him, and his body was left lying on the road, with both the donkey and the lion standing beside it.
30 Then he laid the body in his own tomb, and they mourned over him and said, “Alas, my brother!”
31 After burying him, he said to his sons, “When I die, bury me in the grave where the man of God is buried; lay my bones beside his bones.

I am confused.
The old prophet seemed to be a bad guy and a hypocrite, he cheated the man of God.
Why the man of God had to be punished?
The old prophet mourned over him? He caused him to sin and cried later?
This is a crazy story.
Who can explain the moral of this story?
 
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1 King: 13:18 The old prophet answered, “I too am a prophet, as you are. And an angel said to me by the word of the Lord: ‘Bring him back with you to your house so that he may eat bread and drink water.’” (But he was lying to him.)
24 As he went on his way, a lion met him on the road and killed him, and his body was left lying on the road, with both the donkey and the lion standing beside it.
30 Then he laid the body in his own tomb, and they mourned over him and said, “Alas, my brother!”
31 After burying him, he said to his sons, “When I die, bury me in the grave where the man of God is buried; lay my bones beside his bones.

I am confused.
The old prophet seemed to be a bad guy and a hypocrite, he cheated the man of God.
Why the man of God had to be punished?
The old prophet mourned over him? He caused him to sin and cried later?
This is a crazy story.
Who can explain the moral of this story?
I think this could help you understand.
Commentary on 1 Kings 13 by Matthew Henry
 
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1 King 17:1 Now Elijah the Tishbite, from Tishbe in Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the Lord, the God of Israel, lives, whom I serve, there will be neither dew nor rain in the next few years except at my word.”

What is Tishbite? Is Elijah a Jews? From which tribe?
Perhaps this is the rain being mentioned. Zec:14 is about the 1,000 year reign:
Zec:14:17-19:
And it shall be,
that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King,
the LORD of hosts,
even upon them shall be no rain.
And if the family of Egypt go not up,
and come not,
that have no rain;
there shall be the plague,
wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
This shall be the punishment of Egypt,
and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Mal:4:5-6:
Behold,
I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children,
and the heart of the children to their fathers,
lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Elijah would qualify as 1 of the 24 Elders in the Re:4 Temple and they will have thrones on earth by the end of the same day the two witnesses are resurrected. Before them will stand the whole House of Israel, the Eze:37 group that is resurrected from the grave as the last event of the day the two witnesses, the ones that survive the first 6 trumps join them and the Church stops by once a year for a yearly feast of the tabernacles from Zec:14. The lessons being taught to the recently gathered by Jesus and the 24 Elders would be how Temple service goes in a world without sin. The 10 Commandments cover a world in sin, that is why Abel’s offering was accepted, the 1,000 years is when Cain’s offering will be accepted and it will remain that way in the new earth era. The law from Re:21 is the law that covers immortals. What people learn during the 1,000 years (no marriages so the population is a static population) means they remain alive when God sends all sinful immortals, like Satan and the remaining fallen angels, to the fiery lake.
Ezekiel:38 and the Gog war. Ezekiel:38 is for the 1,000 year reign and the 'battle' that comes when Satan and all remaining fallen angels in the Pit are released and joined by the ones whose bones are buried in a graveyard in Israel in Ezekiel:39.

The people that are there at the end of the chapter are the ones at the start of the chapter that complete the 7 year clean-up and the 7 months of gathering some bones and burying them in a special graveyard that has the name Gog attached to it. The bones belong to the 4 fallen angels that manifest into the 200M horsemen and it is by these being that the 12 Tribes are brought down to being just the 144,000. By the evening of the day Jesus returns and kills all sinners the whole House of Israel will be alive and standing in Israel.

If Gog does not exist until 7 years into the 1,000 year reign then they cannot be in a war at the start because part of the vials is the river of blood and that is the death of those angelic horsemen. There are a few clues in Eze:38 that it is the 1,000 years such as Jerusalem is an unwalled city during that time and it is only during that time that the people are living in safety for the first time. An earlier reference to Damascus being part of prophecy that you believe is happening either means you are working off materials somebody has handed you or you missed more than a passage or two of Scripture. The bones of men that dies as part of the return do not have their bones gathered and placed in the City of Gog.

Damascus is 1 Gentile city mentioned when all Gentile cities are also flattened. Jerusalem is the first one and it is hit with the same fire that God used on Sodom.
 
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Elijah did not die, right?
He was take to heaven, is it the same process of Rapture that Paul talked about?

Paul says that at Christ's return and when the dead are raised those alive will participate in the resurrection along with those who have died. So he says in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52, "See, I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed." He says the same thing in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17. Some in the modern day call this "the rapture", but that term is rather loaded with lots of unbiblical assumptions. We aren't taken into heaven when Jesus returns, when Jesus returns He is coming down, we only go up to meet Him as He is coming down here. We will be with the Lord forever not up in some place called heaven, but in renewal of creation in the Age to Come (Revelation 21:1-5, Isaiah 65:17-25).

So, to answer your question, no it's not the same thing. Elijah was taken up into heaven. When Jesus returns He comes as Judge of the living and the dead, the dead shall be raised, and God will make all things new: world everlasting, without end.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Elijah did not die, right?
He was take to heaven, is it the same process of Rapture that Paul talked about?
The same is said of Enoch. God said nobody would live past 120 years. When those two died they ascended to the Re:5 Temple to become part of the 24 Elders. The rest of them arrived the same morning Jesus was resurrected. Jesus showed up in that same Temple 40 days later.

M't:27:52:
And the graves were opened;
and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
1Co:15:20:
But now is Christ risen from the dead,
and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
Re:12:1:
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven;
a woman clothed with the sun,
and the moon under her feet,
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

When you take the 12 stars to be 12 Prophets from the OT that are now in that Re:4 Temple learning about Temple service in a sinless place. The Re:4 Temple would be the same one in Job:1.
Since marriages do not survive the transition the 12 men are counted and so are their 12 wives. Rather than Adam speaking for Eve, she uses her own voice when talking. By the end of the Bible her crown has 1 star for every male child which means the number of people the number represents is 2x.
Re:12:2:
And she being with child cried,
travailing in birth,
and pained to be delivered.
Re:5:8-10:
And when he had taken the book,
the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb,
having every one of them harps,
and golden vials full of odours,
which are the prayers of saints.
And they sung a new song,
saying,
Thou art worthy to take the book,
and to open the seals thereof:
for thou wast slain,
and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred,
and tongue,
and people,
and nation;
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests:
and we shall reign on the earth.
Mal:4:5-6:
Behold,
I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children,
and the heart of the children to their fathers,
lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

The 3 1/2 years leading up to the return of Jesus are the worst mankind has experienced since the flood. The reason is a few beings from Ge:6 make a return.
When Jesus return He sends a few fallen angels to the fiery lake, burns up all the green grass, etc. He melts 1 city with the fire used on Sodom. The people that dies are resurrected back to life at the GWT event.
When God uses the fire, sinful immortals are sent to the fiery lake, the whole earth is melted. The people that are witnesses to that event, if God does not view them as being sinless, they would also be sent to the same fiery lake sinful angels are sent to. Since none do, it is clear they are all viewed as being sinless, thanks to what they learned from the 24 Elders as they repeat what they are being taught for the last 2,000 years.
 
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Elijah did not die, right?
He was take to heaven, is it the same process of Rapture that Paul talked about?
The rapture is also at the same time, end of the 1,000 year reign. People are made immortal at the beginning of 1,000 years by Jesus leading them to the Eze:47 version of the living water ans food from the tree of life. They are sinless when they are taken to New Jerusalem, all the other children of Adam and Eve are about to appear at the GWT event.
Isa:51:6:
Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
and look upon the earth beneath:
for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke,
and the earth shall wax old like a garment,
and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:
but my salvation shall be for ever,
and my righteousness shall not be abolished.
Heb:12:22-23:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant,
and to the blood of sprinkling,
that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
See that ye refuse not him that speaketh.
For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth,
much more shall not we escape,
if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
Whose voice then shook the earth:
but now he hath promised,
saying,
Yet once more I shake not the earth only,
but also heaven.
 
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