Abortion

[bipn_406]

Are Christians obligated to adopt or care for children that are suffering in the world?
A point I hear many say is that Christians only care when the baby is in the womb and that they wouldn't care for the kids suffering in the world around them.

I want to hear some opinions on this.

 

[HTacianas]

Are Christians obligated to adopt or care for children that are suffering in the world?
A point I hear many say is that Christians only care when the baby is in the womb and that they wouldn't care for the kids suffering in the world around them.

I want to hear some opinions on this.

Christians have since the earliest times taken in unwanted children. During Roman times abortion was common and also the practice of "exposure". Exposure meant to leave a newborn outside to die. Sometimes unwanted children were abandoned in the forest to be killed by wolves. It's where we get the expression "babe in the woods" from.

But to suggest that anyone who is against abortion is obligated to adopt an unwanted child then no. It simply doesn't work that way. We can be against abandoning unwanted children in shopping malls but that does not obligate anyone to take the children in.

 

[friend of]

I would be great of the adoption process was made easier and quicker.

 

[Fantine]

I think that pro-life and pro-choice people care about the already born, but pro-choice progressives have much more effective, concrete proposals to do so.
Most pro-lifers believe charity should be administered through churches. While grossly inadequate, with more children in need being born it will become catastrophically inadequate.
Much larger numbers of people are religiously unaffiliated. Most believers don't tithe, and even if they did, the amount is too small.
I'm a Christian. I believe in charitable giving. But I am no purist. If there is widespread poverty and government can help, I say bring it on. I support laws and programs to end child poverty, such as Biden's expanded tax care cut.
If my being a purist means children go without adequate food, healthcare, shelter I want no part of it.
Saying "giving has to come from churches" is a poor excuse for turning one's back on the suffering.
I like government to work with charities--but government funding means they call the shots. No adoption discrimination, for example.
Our beloved dog died last year. We wanted to adopt at a shelter, but we are seniors. We wanted a little breed we could care for even into our 80's. We wanted a gentle breed. After looking at loads of pit bull mixes, bringing one home and seeing it attack my daughter, we bought a shihtzu from a breeder. We knew what we could handle as septugenarians.
And that is the problem with adoption numbers. People want healthy white infants.
We had wonderful shelter dogs when we were younger, but we're not.
Some adoptive parents may not have the resources to adopt hard-to-adopt children.

 

[3 Resurrections]

A point I hear many say is that Christians only care when the baby is in the womb and that they wouldn't care for the kids suffering in the world around them.

That point is completely inconsistent. Children in the process of being aborted ARE suffering. It's absolute hypocrisy for someone to say they want to alleviate the suffering of those children who have already been born into the world, but to then ignore the suffering of those helpless infants whose lives are being snuffed out by one tortuous method or another. Someone who truly wants to eradicate the suffering of children should not be discriminating as to the age that child happens to be, whether in the womb or out of it.

 

[SkyWriting]

Are Christians obligated to adopt or care for children that are suffering in the world?

Absolutely.

27 Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

 

[The Narrow Way]

I believe more Christians adopt than non-Christians ~Christians More Than Twice As Likely to Adopt a Child

 

[Fantine]

Perhaps because of discrimination against gay couples or singles wanting to adopt.
Where the need is great, perhaps people who meet all other criteria but are not in heterosexual marriages should be considered.

 

[SkyWriting]

Gay men are the largest category of adoption parents.

 

[The Narrow Way]

Gay men are the largest category of adoption parents.

Where is your support for that?

 

[The Narrow Way]

Gay men are the largest category of adoption parents.

Do you deny the fact that a certain percentage of homosexual men are into pedophilia?

Assuming that that is true, isn't it inevitable that a certain percentage of them who are inclined to pedophilia will use adoption as a means of getting children to live out their perverted desires?

 

[Yarddog]

Are Christians obligated to adopt or care for children that are suffering in the world?
A point I hear many say is that Christians only care when the baby is in the womb and that they wouldn't care for the kids suffering in the world around them.

I want to hear some opinions on this.

If we want to end abortion then we have a share of the responsibility to provide care for those children.

 

[Landon Caeli]

If we want to end abortion then we have a share of the responsibility to provide care for those children.

Of course, many mothers will choose to provide for their babies. The only real change is that a bad choice has been removed- where otherwise the children would have been dead... But now they will be alive.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Do you deny the fact that a certain percentage of homosexual men are into pedophilia?

Assuming that that is true, isn't it inevitable that a certain percentage of them who are inclined to pedophilia will use adoption as a means of getting children to live out their perverted desires?

You can't be serious... "a certain percentage"..? What does that even mean?

Better yet, let's not pursue this any further.

 

[Yarddog]

Of course, many mothers will choose to provide for their babies. The only real change is that a bad choice has been removed- where otherwise the children would have been dead... But now they will be alive.

Yes, and we need to be prepared to help those mothers to provide for their children.

 

[SkyWriting]

Do you deny the fact that a certain percentage of homosexual men are into pedophilia?

Assuming that that is true, isn't it inevitable that a certain percentage of them who are inclined to pedophilia will use adoption as a means of getting children to live out their perverted desires?

Since four times as many female children are molested, this indicates the pedophilia problem is not gay men. Strait persons are the problem.

One in 9 girls and 1 in 53 boys under the age of 18 experience sexual abuse or assault at the hands of an adult. 82% of all victims under 18 are female.

Child Sexual Abuse Statistics

 

[SkyWriting]

Do you deny the fact that a certain percentage of homosexual men are into pedophilia?

Assuming that that is true, isn't it inevitable that a certain percentage of them who are inclined to pedophilia will use adoption as a means of getting children to live out their perverted desires?

Gay men would be the much safer bet.
Scope of the Problem: Statistics | RAINN

There should be gay bathrooms so children could use them for safety.

 

[trophy33]

You can't be serious... "a certain percentage"..? What does that even mean?

Better yet, let's not pursue this any further.

After a bit of googling:
The proportions of heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles among sex offenders against children: an exploratory study - PubMed

This is also interesting:
Does sexual abuse in childhood cause pedophilia: an exploratory study - PubMed

Or this:
Children of homosexuals and transsexuals more apt to be homosexual - PubMed

Its also a common trait that when you have one abnormality, it frequently leads to other abnormalities. For example, if somebody is an alcoholic, he is also more prone to be a smoker or a drug addict.

 

[Fantine]

All adoptive parents should be rigorously screened, but perhaps screening out a large category of potential parents when the need is so great is wrong.

 

[SkyWriting]

Do you deny the fact that a certain percentage of homosexual men are into pedophilia?

Assuming that that is true, isn't it inevitable that a certain percentage of them who are inclined to pedophilia will use adoption as a means of getting children to live out their perverted desires?

Given that " the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1" it is ten times more likely for a heterosexual to be a pedophile, this tells me that the people whom you trust for information.....cannot be trusted. They are lying to you.

The proportions of heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles among sex offenders against children: an exploratory study - PubMed