abortion

[MarieAnn]

How do protestants feel aboiut abortion? Do you agree with catholics that it is evil and murder?

I don't want to start a fight like last time i really want to know.

thanks!

 

[JeffreyLloyd]

You sneaking around CF when I'm outside, lol

 

[Lotar]

It is generally agreed that it is murder. A few non-evangelical denominations might disagree.

 

[TCapp]

It's evil.

 

[II Paradox II]

How do protestants feel aboiut abortion? Do you agree with catholics that it is evil and murder?

I don't want to start a fight like last time i really want to know.

Most evangelicals/protestants are pro-life. You will get more exceptions to this as you talk to more liberal church members though (the same with the catholics as well)

ken

 

[Terri]

There are pro-abortion non-catholics and pro-abortion catholics.

There are anti-abortion non-catholics and anti-abortion catholics.

I think that covers it!

 

[msjones21]

I think the act in and of itself is evil. I don't think that women who have abortions are evil. I do not agree with it but I'm not a rabid pro-life activist either. I don't protest outside of clinics and scream "baby murderer" at women.

 

[jbarcher]

*shrug*

Let's see....according to scientific fact, a fetus is a human being. Anyway, I am anti-murder, so you can arrive at a logical conclusion and say I'm a "pro-lifer".

 

[EdmundBlackadderTheThird]

One of my best friends is a member of a really strange church that teaches life is not life until God "breathes" life into it. They go to great lengths even mistranslating the original Greek to show that the soul is imparted at birth abd therefore there is nothing wrong with abortion becasue it is not life. The pastor even comes up with something totally off the wall that he calls a "format soul" that is what a fetus has and not a "real soul". It is totally crazy stuff and the lengths they go to prove it are pretty out there. I have debated this many times with him and even gone to the original languages to show him the folly of that teaching but wouldn't you know it his pastor knows more about Greek than anyone that has lived the past 2000 years. The guy actually says this! But the church does teach grace and grace alone so they qualify as Christian, they are however a couple of minor doctrinal shifts and few assauly weapons away from having their own little compound in Waco. They are some scary folks. So yes there are pro-choice Christians who think they can justify their position by using scripture. I, however, am not one of those. Abortion is murder and nothing less as far as I am concerned. It sickens me that as a society we allow it go on daily in this country.

 

[KristiXP]

It's murder.

 

[Crazy Liz]

Abortion is evil. It doesn't need to be murder to be evil.

Killing innocent children and pregnant women and their fetuses in their homes and neighborhoods with cluster bombs in a "just war" is also evil, whether you call it murder or not.

Abortion is evil. It is not necessary to determine whether or not it is murder.

 

[Veritas]

There are pro-abortion non-catholics and pro-abortion catholics.

There are anti-abortion non-catholics and anti-abortion catholics.

I think that covers it!

Terri,

The official position of the Catholic Church is pro-life. Those who dissent from the Church's position have beliefs outside the Church's teaching. I don't believe there is any official Protestant position given the fact that there are thousands of Protestant traditions. There are of course, individual Protestants and denominations that are against abortion. I think this is a more accurate understanding.

Blessings,

Veritas

 

[Lotar]

Terri,

The official position of the Catholic Church is pro-life. Those who dissent from the Church's position have beliefs outside the Church's teaching. I don't believe there is any official Protestant position given the fact that there are thousands of Protestant traditions. There are of course, individual Protestants and denominations that are against abortion. I think this is a more accurate understanding.

Blessings,

Veritas

Well, if you define Protestantism as anything not Catholic or Orthodox then your presumption is correct, but if you are speaking of those who hold the 3 solas and the creeds, then there are none who allow it.

 

[Terri]

Terri,

The official position of the Catholic Church is pro-life. Those who dissent from the Church's position have beliefs outside the Church's teaching. I don't believe there is any official Protestant position given the fact that there are thousands of Protestant traditions. There are of course, individual Protestants and denominations that are against abortion. I think this is a more accurate understanding.

Blessings,

Veritas

The official catholic position changes nothing about what I said. But, this thread does offer you an opportunity to get a dig in at non-catholics for not having an "official position" from your point of view I see.

I'm not sure which is worse: to not have an official position covering all non-catholics in one case, or to have an official position that is ignored by some catholic members in the other case.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

Well, if you define Protestantism as anything not Catholic or Orthodox then your presumption is correct, but if you are speaking of those who hold the 3 solas and the creeds, then there are none who allow it.

What about PCUSA?

 

[EdmundBlackadderTheThird]

I don't think that Veritas was getting a dig in for not having an official position. It was just a statement of fact. There is not an official Protestant position on anything that I am aware of except maybe Christ and the cross. There isn't anything wrong with that really Protestant is not a denomination like Catholic it in fact covers pretty much everything not Orthodox or Catholic. This means every little snake handling church, the Baptists, the AOG, etc. I think that if you asked the AOG they would have an official position just like the Southern Bapists would. There cannot be an official position for Protestants as we are not all members of the same denomination. If it was a dig it wasn't a very good one.

 

[Foundthelight]

What about PCUSA?

According to their web site, it is an individual decision and the church feels that it should be a last resort. They also state that women who have abortions will not be penalized by the church in any way. The church leaves that up to God.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

According to their web site, it is an individual decision and the church feels that it should be a last resort. They also state that women who have abortions will not be penalized by the church in any way. The church leaves that up to God.

So are you saying that they allow it? That would seem to contradict what Lotar was saying, since they do believe in the solas, don't they?

 

[Terri]

I don't think that Veritas was getting a dig in for not having an official position. It was just a statement of fact. There is not an official Protestant position on anything that I am aware of except maybe Christ and the cross. There isn't anything wrong with that really Protestant is not a denomination like Catholic it in fact covers pretty much everything not Orthodox or Catholic. This means every little snake handling church, the Baptists, the AOG, etc. I think that if you asked the AOG they would have an official position just like the Southern Bapists would. There cannot be an official position for Protestants as we are not all members of the same denomination. If it was a dig it wasn't a very good one.

I agree it wasn't a very good dig, but a dig none the less.

It is a constant theme around here. Just one of the ways our beliefs are put down. "We have got to be wrong because there are so many denominations": I've heard that in every form imaginable. It is rather boring. They don't realize that it is a meaningless argument to us!

I believe their time would be better spent trying to convince all of their own members to be pro-life rather than putting us down. But, that's just me!

 

[La Bonita Zorilla]

There are significant variations.

The Southern Baptists were pro-choice as recently as the late 1970s but switched.

Most Mainline Protestant denominations are pro-choice or neutral officially but some have significant social conservative minorities.

Many pro-choicers of faith belong to the Religious Coalition for Reproductive choice www.rcrc.org

IMO many of the socially conservative religious bodies have significant disregard for women and are therefore in favor of abortion restrictions.

Most religious liberals and pro-choicers of faith oppose abortion in principle but believe legislating against it would produce a greater wrong.