dollarsbill
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I won't be at all surprised when future technology detects that the unborn are truly human beings at conception. Will the abortion rights folks change their minds then? I doubt it.
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I won't be at all surprised when future technology detects that the unborn are truly human beings at conception. Will the abortion rights folks change their minds then? I doubt it.But not everyone finds any credibility in your opinion.
Thinking it is ok to kill the unborn at 12 or 24 weeks has already shown there is not enough inteligence and the slipery slope has already started.
Why 12 weeks, why 24? Already the view has ignored the objective reality that all life starts at conception, whether 12 weeks old or 24 weeks old. Whether one thinks its ok to terminate it at 12 weeks or 24 weeks is just subjective. Why not 2 years? Sure the subjective criteria might not meet your thinking but so what, its subjective.
A human being is exactly what you get when sperm fertilizes an egg. If it's not a human life then what kind of life is it? A dog, a monkey, an elephant, maybe a fish, human beings only produce human beings. Embryonic science has already established that the unborn is a human being. And since you have stated that "human beings" and "persons" are synonymous then all unborn human beings are persons.
Human beings have value simply because they are human, not because of some trait they gain or lose during their lifetime. From the earliest stages of development the unborn are distinct, living, and whole human beings. They are not part of larger human beings (like skin cells).
If you thought my statement was a fallacious conclusion, then tell me, exactly when does the unborn become a person? No one knows the answer for sure. Because science (which is measurable) cannot tell us when the unborn becomes a person (which is not measurable). And since we don't know when the unborn becomes a person, then it is better to error on the side of life then on the side of death.
Again, there is not need to convince anyone that the unborn is a human being, since embryonic science has already established it. And those that deny this are just fooling themselves. So since the unborn is a human being and a person then terminating the unborn can and should be considered the killing of an innocent human life.
Are we talking about just terminating "life" or terminating a human? The extinguishing of "life" is not such a big deal. You do it when you step on an ant. I value a newly fertilized human zygote no higher than an ant. Others would disagree and i respect that.Jedi,
So as the life starts at conception and this both the life at 12 weeks and 24 weeks is still the life, abortion is killing the life. I think it is reasonable to call out a lack of intelligence if there is observable proof for it.
I think other then for the health of a mother abortion is a cheap cop out of the reality of life.
However politically im pro choice.
I won't be at all surprised when future technology detects that the unborn are truly human beings at conception. Will the abortion rights folks change their minds then? I doubt it.
Human as in the fact that they have human cells, not in that they are equal to a newborn.Embryology has already proven at conception that unborn child is fully human. Every credible medical journal in print tells for a fact that the unborn is fully human
Human as in the fact that they have human cells, not in that they are equal to a newborn.
While driving to the dentist and listening to BBC Radio, abortion was being discussed. On the show the announcer stated that at latest count, there have been forty-five million abortions annually world-wide.
This is unbelievable and so sad. Many decry the loss of life from other means: wars, murders, etc., and all are tragic. But this number, forty-five million abortions annually is truly unbelievable.
So every year approximately 45 million babies are brutally murdered through abortion. That is sickening and so sad. Abortion needs to be outlawed no matter what the reason for getting an abortion. You can't do evil to bring about good so it follows that you can't perform an abortion to save a mother's life. If you do, you are committing an intrinsically evil act. Therefore, abortion should be outlawed no matter the reason. It doesn't matter if the woman's life is in danger, abortion should still be outlawed.
OK, so you're telling me that you'd be willing to go up to a woman doubled over in pain in the ER from a tubal (ectopic) pregnancy and tell her that she will not be allowed to have surgery because it's a form of abortion? That she should just suck it up and take the chance that she will die needlessly? FYI, tubal pregancies have NO chance of going full term. The tube will rupture, after which their is a very high chance of the woman dying from bleeding, infection, ect. Can you please explain how allowing a woman to die needlessly (which is the true evil) is "pro-life"?Abortion needs to be outlawed no matter what the reason for getting an abortion. You can't do evil to bring about good so it follows that you can't perform an abortion to save a mother's life. If you do, you are committing an intrinsically evil act
OK, so you're telling me that you'd be willing to go up to a woman doubled over in pain in the ER from a tubal (ectopic) pregnancy and tell her that she will not be allowed to have surgery because it's a form of abortion? That she should just suck it up and take the chance that she will die needlessly? FYI, tubal pregancies have NO chance of going full term. The tube will rupture, after which their is a very high chance of the woman dying from bleeding, infection, ect. Can you please explain how allowing a woman to die needlessly (which is the true evil) is "pro-life"?
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