abortion?

[Bella Vita]

A worried woman went to her gynecologist and said:

'Doctor, I have a serious problem and desperately need your help! My baby is not even 1 year old and I'm pregnant again. I don't want kids so close together.

So the doctor said: 'Ok and what do you want me to do?'

She said: 'I want you to end my pregnancy, and I'm counting on your help with this.'

The doctor thought for a little, and after some silence he said to the lady: 'I think I have a better solution for your problem. It's less dangerous for you too.'

She smiled, thinking that the doctor was going to accept her request.

Then he continued: 'You see, in order for you not to have to take care 2 babies at the same time, let's kill the one in your arms. This way, you could rest some before the other one is born. If we're going to kill one of them, it doesn't matter which one it is. There would be no risk for your body if you chose the one in your arms.

The lady was horrified and said: 'No doctor! How terrible! It's a crime to kill a child!

'I agree', the doctor replied. 'But you seemed to be OK with it, so I thought maybe that was the best solution.'

The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point.

He convinced the mom that there is no difference in killing a child that's already been born and one that's still in the womb.

The crime is the same!


"Love says I sacrifice myself for the good of the other person. Abortion says I sacrifice the other person for the good of myself..."

 

[SoldierOfSoul]

That sound freakin' epic.

Like I'm a psychopath or something like that.

Abortion is a topic I take very serious, obviously you do not. Your not a psychopath, just a confused young man who denies the reality of death of an innocent human life.

 

[mandyangel]

I don't tell children what to do with their bodies either. I leave that up to themselves and their legal guardians. Pediatric care is rather off-topic to this thread.

Oh Lord! Why don't we just give 8 year olds free condoms in cereal boxes?!?, thats a great idea

 

[Incariol]

A worried woman went to her gynecologist and said:

'Doctor, I have a serious problem and desperately need your help! My baby is not even 1 year old and I'm pregnant again. I don't want kids so close together.

So the doctor said: 'Ok and what do you want me to do?'

She said: 'I want you to end my pregnancy, and I'm counting on your help with this.'

The doctor thought for a little, and after some silence he said to the lady: 'I think I have a better solution for your problem. It's less dangerous for you too.'

She smiled, thinking that the doctor was going to accept her request.

Then he continued: 'You see, in order for you not to have to take care 2 babies at the same time, let's kill the one in your arms. This way, you could rest some before the other one is born. If we're going to kill one of them, it doesn't matter which one it is. There would be no risk for your body if you chose the one in your arms.

The lady was horrified and said: 'No doctor! How terrible! It's a crime to kill a child!

'I agree', the doctor replied. 'But you seemed to be OK with it, so I thought maybe that was the best solution.'

The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point.

He convinced the mom that there is no difference in killing a child that's already been born and one that's still in the womb.

The crime is the same!


"Love says I sacrifice myself for the good of the other person. Abortion says I sacrifice the other person for the good of myself..."

Yes, I've read that emotionalistic drama piece before. Its tiresome, shoddy logic: infanticide /= abortion. Read the U.S. code and Roe v. Wade.

 

[chris4243]

The people who oppose abortion generally also make a claim equivalent to saying that identical twins are a single person instead of two.

 

[arj1981]

Incariol, NO 24 yr old man could tell me what to do with my body either. That's very wise for being 21.

If ANY man other than God or Jesus tried to tell me what I should or shouldn't be doing with my body, I'd tell him exactly what he could do with that advice in a heartbeat.

 

[Incariol]

Oh Lord! Why don't we just give 8 year olds free condoms in cereal boxes?!?, thats a great idea

That was random. What in the name of He-whose-face-is-spiraling-jade are you talking about?

 

[Bella Vita]

Yes, I've read that emotionalistic drama piece before. Its tiresome, shoddy logic: infanticide /= abortion. Read the U.S. code and Roe v. Wade.

sorry that you don't like it...it does make an excellent point however

Either way you can not call yourself a Christian and be ok with abortion plain and simple read the Bible it is there in black and white. Killing another human being no matter how old or young is murder. And anything a women has in her uterus is nothing short of a human it isn't going to come out a horse or a chicken but a HUMAN!!!!!

 

[Incariol]

Incariol, NO 24 yr old man could tell me what to do with my body either. That's very wise for being 21.

If ANY man other than God or Jesus tried to tell me what I should or shouldn't be doing with my body, I'd tell him exactly what he could do with that advice in a heartbeat.

Thank you very much.

 

[SoldierOfSoul]

Yes, I've read that emotionalistic drama piece before. Its tiresome, shoddy logic: infanticide /= abortion. Read the U.S. code and Roe v. Wade.

Pedophilia was legal in ancient Greece and Rome, according to your logic that makes it OK? Hmm.

 

[Incariol]

sorry that you don't like it...it does make an excellent point however

No it doesn't. It conflates infanticide and abortion, and a child with a fetus or zygote. They aren't the same thing in legal and medical terminology. This is why the pro-life movement gets no respect, because they can't argue without resorting to base histrionics.

Either way you can not call yourself a Christian and be ok with abortion plain and simple read the Bible it is there in black and white.

I manage just fine.

Killing another human being no matter how old or young is murder.

So that makes God the biggest mass-murderer in history. Remember the Flood? Seems like God literally murdered a planet, according to you.

I am of course assuming you believe in the Flood.

And anything a women has in her uterus is nothing short of a human it isn't going to come out a horse or a chicken but a HUMAN!!!!!

Well, yes, that is how reproduction works.

 

[arj1981]

Thank you very much.

YW. I edited that post. I'm not sure if u caught the last part.

 

[Bella Vita]

No it doesn't. It conflates infanticide and abortion, and a child with a fetus or zygote. They aren't the same thing in legal and medical terminology. This is why the pro-life movement gets no respect, because they can't argue without resorting to base histrionics.



I manage just fine.



So that makes God the biggest mass-murderer in history. Remember the Flood? Seems like God literally murdered a planet, according to you.

I am of course assuming you believe in the Flood.



Well, yes, that is how reproduction works.

God can take life however and whenever he sees fit wanna know why he is GOD!!! We are people who have been given laws and rules to follow in the Bible we don't get to decide and pick and choose what ones to follow and what ones we just don't really like very much. We do all of them or none of them. We are not to kill people that means walking up on the street and pulling a trigger as well as aborting babies. They are one in the same by God's book. You can not compare us to God because again he id God and we are just humans asked to do nothing but love him and follow a few rules he sets before us.

p.s. your not managing just fine cause you might have to explain why you think it is ok to take away the life he gives and play God so to speak as well as explain to God someday why you think he is such a murder..... have fun with that hahahah

 

[mandyangel]

That was random. What in the name of He-whose-face-is-spiraling-jade are you talking about?

Your the one saying "don't tell children what to do with their bodies"

 

[chris4243]

sorry that you don't like it...it does make an excellent point however

Either way you can not call yourself a Christian and be ok with abortion plain and simple read the Bible it is there in black and white. Killing another human being no matter how old or young is murder. And anything a women has in her uterus is nothing short of a human it isn't going to come out a horse or a chicken but a HUMAN!!!!!

Yes abortion is mentioned in the Bible in black and white, in Numbers 5. It is a husband's right to abort a child not his own.

 

[Incariol]

Pedophilia was legal in ancient Greece and Rome, according to your logic that makes it OK? Hmm.

Certainly, to a degree, pederasty was a socially acceptable institution. Normally, it didn't even involve physical sexual acts. It was considered the height of barbarism for the erastes to actually engage in that sort of behavior with the eromenos. The Lacedaimonians were reviled for their tendencies in that direction.

Percy and Nussbaum both note that it was considered unmanly for any activity to go beyond intercrural intercourse.

Plutarch wrote that actual intercourse was considered unthinkable.

 

[Incariol]

Your the one saying "don't tell children what to do with their bodies"

And that has what, exactly to do with your outburst about condoms for children?

 

[Incariol]

God can take life however and whenever he sees fit wanna know why he is GOD!!!

ohhhh, moving the goalposts I see. I will also add exclamation points to show I am SERIOUS!!!!!

We are people who have been given laws and rules to follow in the Bible we don't get to decide and pick and choose what ones to follow and what ones we just don't really like very much. We do all of them or none of them. We are not to kill people that means walking up on the street and pulling a trigger as well as aborting babies. They are one in the same by God's book. You can not compare us to God because again he id God and we are just humans asked to do nothing but love him and follow a few rules he sets before us.

So do you wear clothing made of mixed materials?

p.s. your not managing just fine cause you might have to explain why you think it is ok to take away the life he gives and play God so to speak as well as explain to God someday why you think he is such a murder.....

I don't think God is a murderer, lol. Its your logic, not mine.

have fun with that hahahah

What are we? Twelve? So petty.

 

[SoldierOfSoul]

Yes abortion is mentioned in the Bible in black and white, in Numbers 5. It is a husband's right to abort a child not his own.

Lies! Nothing in that chapter (although confusing) mentions abortion, try again.

 

[mandyangel]

And that has what, exactly to do with your outburst about condoms for children?

Well I just think thats rediculous if you think a parent or adult shouldn't tell their kid that they probably shouldnt be having sex