Abortion

[flicka]

It's ridiculous to get pregnant nowadays anyway, with all of our new types of birthcontrol, which aren't that hard to get. If you're serious enough to have sex, then you should be responsible enough to get some form of contraception. And if you have sex unprotected, its your fault if you get pergnant. There are so many girls who have multiple superfluous abortions, they shouldn't have a second chance/abortion, because they screwed up already. Besides, killing a baby that is alive in the womb is the same as killing the baby as soon as it leaves the birth canal, only it isn't as developed. So murdering just-born babies should be legalized? Once the baby starts developing it is already alive, thats what matters. Just because it's in the womb and underdeveloped it should be disregarded because you don't see it or know whether or not it yet has a soul or any feeling. So we want to pretend it doesn't exist, erase the mistake. It's over the baby's accord to be aborted, as it is also a choice of the woman's. Maybe that baby wanted to grow and live. Who should be denied a choice? The irresponsible woman or the little inferior glob of jelly in the womb?

I'm not going to question you position on abortion but your idea that nobody should ever get pregnant on accident because there is bc available is naive. And saying 'it's your fault if you get pregnant' is like saying a baby is punishment for having sex in the first place. Not good.

 

[Bob Moore]

...Besides, killing a baby that is alive in the womb is the same as killing the baby as soon as it leaves the birth canal, only it isn't as developed... Once the baby starts developing it is already alive, thats what matters. Just because it's in the womb and underdeveloped it should be disregarded because you don't see it or know whether or not it yet has a soul or any feeling. So we want to pretend it doesn't exist, erase the mistake. It's over the baby's accord to be aborted, as it is also a choice of the woman's. Maybe that baby wanted to grow and live. Who should be denied a choice? The irresponsible woman or the little inferior glob of jelly in the womb?

For this saying I give you 500 blessings.

 

[Jeszaramuhamadarthamusrex]

There are girls out there that are too lazy to get bc. Anytime you have unprotected sex, you are ignoring the risk of getting pregnant. I have a friend who was having sex and got lazy about taking her bc pills, ended up getting pregnant and had an abortion.
Like anytime you smoke you have to be responible of what health risks will come out of it. Not that I'm saying that by having sex you deserve to get pregnant or it should be a punishment. You should be careful if you know what could happen. Don't have sex if you're not ready or unable to get condoms from the store around the corner. If you do get pregnant it is your fault if you were not being really safe about it, not anybody elses, and it doen't just happen. But my stand on abortion, I think it is not a matter of right or wrong, it only matters to the person having the abortion. It only effects them and they have a right to choose to do whatever to get by through life, but thy should be careful of what they do. Somebody having an abortion has nothing to with how I feel about it. I'm just giving different ways to look at it.

 

[flicka]

There are girls out there that are too lazy to get bc.

Your failing to mention that at least 50% of the problem comes from the male. I'd even go so far to say that more women are pressured into having sex by men than the other way around....so who are you accusing of being lazy?

 

[Outspoken]

For this saying I give you 500 blessings.

And I'll bless the blesser so that he can bless futher..wow..that's a mouthful...

 

[Malakar]

WOW!!, That's a lot of blessings. Anywhoo. What many of you should realize is that this debate starts at one point. When you believe life starts. If you believe life begins at conception all arguments for abortion are illogical. If you believe life starts once a baby is born all arguments for abortion are logical, because it is your body, you can do what you want with it. Once you realize this all other arguemtns are useless. You can finally respect each side's opinion. The problem is proving beyond a shadow of a doubt when life starts. Once you prove that, the debate will be over.

 

[Outspoken]

Your failing to mention that at least 50% of the problem comes from the male. I'd even go so far to say that more women are pressured into having sex by men than the other way around....so who are you accusing of being lazy?

Men have no say in abortion, so your objection is illogical.

 

[Magisterium]

Men have no say in abortion, so your objection is illogical.

When you show me a woman who can conceive a child without a donation from a man, you'll have a woman who can choose to kill the child on her own. Until then, the man ALWAYS has a say.

If a woman can sue a man for child support because he made a baby with her, he can certainly have a say whether that child's life will be terminated. All this rhetorical nonsense about it being a "woman's rights" issue, is so logically transparent. If you're against abortion, you're considered anti-abortion, but if you're pro-abortion, that sounds too bad, we'll call it "pro-choice". It's a flagrant rhetorical dodge.

Why aren't these "pro-choicers" championing any other "women's rights" issues? The fact is, other real "woman's rights" issues aren't multi-billion dollar industries.

However, what's really disturbing is that so many otherwise intelligent people appear completely hoodwinked into believing that "pro-choice" actually means something other than "pro-abortion".

It's also interesting to see just how the rights of the unborn are now being blatantly suppressed. When the prosecuters in the Scott Peterson case decided to charge him in the death of his unborn child as well as his wife, people were watching closely and only the most radical pro-abortionists dared to speak out against recognizing the unborn as persons (note the legal definition of "person"). However, when there was no public backlash against these people, then the other groups come leaping out of the woodwork shouting against the unborn victims of violence act.

The truth is, in opposing the unborn victims of violence act, the pro-abortionists are finally shedding their rhetorical veil of "woman's rights". In so doing, they themselves demonstrate that they are opposed to the recognition and respect of the rights of the unborn. The unborn victims of violence have no relation to women's rights. In fact, it hurts women to oppose it. The hightened respect for a woman who is with child is intentionally diminished so that she can choose to kill the baby herself?! It's nonsense! The fact is, this was NEVER a "Women's Rights" issue at all and now it's coming to light.