Abortion Pro-choice? Who is making choice and for whom?

[joinfree]

If the Church would teach, that the child goes to hell after the abortion, then there would be less abortion among believers? Now the woman feels like Paradise filling up, when she destroys her children.

The facts are:

1) An aborted baby goes straight to hell, because he/she is not baptised.
2) Woman and father know it in subconscious.
3) Parents are making the choice in behalf of the baby: hell or Heaven. Eternal Life or Eternal Death.

Every human (except the aborted babies) has choice to make: hell, or Heaven.

 

[chevyontheriver]

The facts are:

1) An aborted baby goes straight to hell, because he/she is not baptised.

That is not necessarily a fact.

 

[Multifavs]

An aborted baby may not have been baptized, but he/she hasn't sinned either. Because of God's mercy and because they have not even had the chance to live, I don't believe they would go straight to eternal fire.

Unfortunately, mother and father don't always know about the afterlife, not if they don't believe in one.

The choice is basically choosing what is more important: the life of an innocent unborn child or the convenience of the mother; life or murder (even if it is not considered as such).

 

[chevyontheriver]

The facts are:

1) An aborted baby goes straight to hell, because he/she is not baptised.
2) Woman and father know it in subconscious.
3) Parents are making the choice in behalf of the baby: hell or Heaven. Eternal Life or Eternal Death.

Every human (except the aborted babies) has choice to make: hell, or Heaven.

The evil of abortion is not that the baby goes to hell, but that the parents put themselves at risk of hell for killing a human being, and the abortionist doctors and nurses do go to hell unless they repent. The baby, by almost all accounts is treated as the Holy Innocents of Matthew 2:16-18.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

The rise in abortions shows the increase in the heartlessness of people who should be protecting the unborn instead of murdering them. I read an account of a premature baby getting distressed so it was delivered by emergency caesarian and put on a respirator to ensure that it lived. Imagine the deep distress a late term aborted baby goes through before it dies. We know from Scripture that babies are conscious of their surroundings because when Elizabeth met Mary who was pregnant with Jesus, the baby in Elizabeth's womb jumped for joy.

God is giving up the nation for judgment. The rise in heartless murder of unborn babies, armed robberies, school shootings, terrorist attacks, domestic violence, prostitution, greed, slander, homosexuality, corruption in government organisations, and the occult, are all signs that God is allowing these things because the nation has turned away from Christ. Unless there is a nationwide turning to Christ, things will get worse.

Who knows, there may be a shooting in a school near you, and it may be your child who will end up in the morgue. Who's to know?

 

[chevyontheriver]

God is giving up the nation for judgment. The rise in heartless murder of unborn babies, armed robberies, school shootings, terrorist attacks, domestic violence, prostitution, greed, slander, homosexuality, corruption in government organisations, and the occult, are all signs that God is allowing these things because the nation has turned away from Christ. Unless there is a nationwide turning to Christ, things will get worse.

Your nation and mine.

 

[joinfree]

The evil of abortion is not that the baby goes to hell, but that the parents put themselves at risk of hell for killing a human being, and the abortionist doctors and nurses do go to hell unless they repent. The baby, by almost all accounts is treated as the Holy Innocents of Matthew 2:16-18.

If the Church would teach, that the child goes to hell after the abortion, then there would be less abortion among believers? Now the woman feels like Paradise filling up, when she destroys her children.

 

[Eloy Craft]

Remember this? It's my body and I can do with it what I want. not you or anybody else can tell me what I can do with my body.

What's left out is what it means. My body isn't given up for neither, my children. or you.

This to me is a diabolic mockery of Christ's institution of the Eucharist at the last supper.

She say's: This is my body and it is not given up for you

Jesus say's: This is My Body and it is given up for you.

 

[chevyontheriver]

If the Church would teach, that the child goes to hell after the abortion, then there would be less abortion among believers? Now the woman feels like Paradise filling up, when she destroys her children.

The Church can only teach the truth. How do YOU claim to know that aborted babies go to hell? Do miscarried babies also go to hell? What Church Councils ever taught such things, what Church Fathers, what Scripture?

 

[SPF]

1) An aborted baby goes straight to hell, because he/she is not baptised.

Tell your first premise to the thief on the cross who accepted Christ, was told he would be in paradise with Christ, and was not baptized.

 

[No Swansong]

It takes only one example (The Thief on the Cross) to invalidate the logic you are attempting to present.

 

[Aaron J. Creagh]

If the Church would teach, that the child goes to hell after the abortion, then there would be less abortion among believers? Now the woman feels like Paradise filling up, when she destroys her children.

The facts are:

1) An aborted baby goes straight to hell, because he/she is not baptised.
2) Woman and father know it in subconscious.
3) Parents are making the choice in behalf of the baby: hell or Heaven. Eternal Life or Eternal Death.

Every human (except the aborted babies) has choice to make: hell, or Heaven.

 

[Aaron J. Creagh]

Why should the child go straight to hell after he or she is aborted?

If anyone goes it, falls on the parents.

 

[SkyWriting]

If the Church would teach, that the child goes to hell after the abortion, then there would be less abortion among believers?

Jesus indicated that the children come to Him on their own.
Use your faith.

 

[SkyWriting]

Remember this? It's my body and I can do with it what I want. not you or anybody else can tell me what I can do with my body.

What's left out is what it means. My body isn't given up for neither, my children. or you.

This to me is a diabolic mockery of Christ's institution of the Eucharist at the last supper.

She say's: This is my body and it is not given up for you

Jesus say's: This is My Body and it is given up for you.

We don't all have what it takes to be Jesus.

 

[SkyWriting]

1) An aborted baby goes straight to hell, because he/she is not baptised.

The Baptism referred to is baptism of the Spirit.

The unborn do not reject God's Holy Spirit.

40 where she entered the home of Zechariah and greeted Elizabeth.
41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit.

Acts 1:5
For John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”

Matthew 3:11
“I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

 

[Blade]

Hmm not sure if your asking or believe what you posted.. well your NUMBER 1..no where in the word is that written. Its not by baptized that saves you.. I read by grace am I saved through faith in believing in Jesus.. even Jesus said..for GOD so loved that word.. that if you believe in Him you will not die by have ever lasting life.. also says in the word.. ANYONE that just calls on the name of the lord shall be saved.

And please watch how we talk ..well its NOT your creation.. you I made no one.. and its HIS children.. and not ONE ever sins against me or you. Against thee and only thee do I sin and do this evil in your sight. So.. if Christ does not judge nor condemns.. and already DIED for the world and also said.. if you were blind you would have no sin.. you say you see your sin remains.. I am 100% sure not one of those babies see.. but were blind.. as in to truth.. Christ is the truth..

And FACT we can debate this all we want.. but it has no effect what so ever on TRUTH. He made the rules..and He is the only judge. And.. when a preacher with kids..lived next door to a abortion place.. where they would bring food over to the two that ran it.. both women both gay and together. The preacher would invite them over for dinner. NEVER did they stand in front and say things.. never. Always nice.. loving. Never judged them.. is this how we see them?

Well lets keep going.. those two women kept coming over for dinner and BOTH got saved.. both moved out from each other. JESUS IS REAL! HE changes the heart... not you not me. Its HIS holy Spirit that does it ALL..not something we did or said.. man will NEVER glory in His sight.

 

[SkyWriting]

If the Church would teach, that the child goes to hell after the abortion, then there would be less abortion among believers?

The church should teach to treat all other people, exactly the way they'd like to be treated themselves. Even pregnant women should be treated the same as everyone else.

 

[SkyWriting]

Every human (except the aborted babies) has choice to make: hell, or Heaven.

Logic says that the unborn do not reject God or blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

 

[SPF]

The church should teach to treat all other people, exactly the way they'd like to be treated themselves. Even pregnant women should be treated the same as everyone else.

SkyWriting, being pro-choice, doesn’t apply his belief consistently to the unborn.